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Why has FR turned on Cruz?
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Posted on 05/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by bassmaner

I'll keep this vanity short ... Mods: please feel free to pull it if it's inappropriate.

Why have so many here on FR turned on Ted Cruz in such a vicious way?

We cheered when we first heard about Ted taking on the establishment in TX to win the primary in the race to fill Kay Bailey Hutchison's vacated Senate seat, in a bad year for the GOP

We cheered again when Ted exhorted us to 'Stand With Rand' when he offered public support for Rand Paul's filibuster over the NDAA

Once more, we cheered when he stood on the Senate floor and urged his colleagues to join him and use the power of the purse to kill Obamacare

We nodded our collective heads in approval when he openly and correctly called Mitch McConnell a liar

And we jumped for joy when he became the first GOPer to announce a presidential run!

So ... what happened? Yes, Trump announced. But at first, not too many people took him seriously. For the longest time, there seemed to be an unspoken pact between Trump and Cruz, where they occasionally said nice things about each other while bashing the other candidates.

But ever since the voting began and Trump turned on Cruz (starting with the Ben Carson imbroglio in Iowa), a large contingent of FReepers did the same and seem to be echoing RINOs like John Boehner and Peter King in their absolute abhorrence of Cruz.

Yes, we need to choose sides, but for God's sake, can't we send that kind of vitriol in the direction that it belongs, ie. Hildabeast and the 'Rat Party, and knock off the circular firing squad?


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To: bassmaner

“Yes, we need to choose sides, but for God’s sake, can’t we send that kind of vitriol in the direction that it belongs, ie. Hildabeast and the ‘Rat Party, and knock off the circular firing squad?”

Short answer. . .no, FReepers can’t help themselves. They would rather see Hitlery win and the next two (maybe three) Supreme Court nominees be chosen by her.


21 posted on 05/02/2016 2:37:46 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: bassmaner

I would say now that he is mathematically eliminated to press on using divisive language such as “Evil” insures a Hillary president. Huckabee and Santorum took a hint


22 posted on 05/02/2016 2:37:55 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ted Cruz's antics show he is playing for 2020 against Hillary)
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To: bassmaner

I backed Cruz all along and donated to his campaign. The night he blamed the Chicago near riots at a Trump rally on Trump, he became dead to me.


23 posted on 05/02/2016 2:38:11 PM PDT by katnip (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: bassmaner

So you start a thread where Trump people can come on and lie about him and bash him some more... go figure...


24 posted on 05/02/2016 2:38:37 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bassmaner
Why has FR turned on Cruz?

Ted Cruz has turned on us...

Vote Trump

25 posted on 05/02/2016 2:38:43 PM PDT by sargon (Vote Trump!)
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To: Paladin2

Crus is showing desperation.
He knows he can’t beat Trump and can’t admit it to himself.


26 posted on 05/02/2016 2:38:56 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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To: bassmaner

I never fell for the Cruz cult. To me, this just means most of FR finally came to their senses and saw what a grandstanding faker Cruz is. He’s turned out to be Barack Obama with an ‘R’ next to his name.


27 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:09 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NonValueAdded

True. Cruz turned on America. He is an habitual liar.


28 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:24 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Lyin Ted lies more then Hillary)
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To: ilgipper
This character assassination of a conservative champion is another.

Exactly. That was my point: he's stood up to 0bama when others refused to do so. He hasn't been perfect by a long stretch (nobody has), but Ted's fought the good fight. And he's just following the rules regarding the delegates, not 'cheating'.

29 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:45 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bassmaner

Goldman Sachs
Integrity issues
Using Jesus for gain and profit
Glenn Beck
Constitutional questions
Adoption by the establishment followed by poor campaign management


30 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SpaceBar

Delusion is strong in this one.


31 posted on 05/02/2016 2:39:57 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bassmaner

He says I’m uneducated and that I have no morals.

Ted Cruz doesn’t like me and he lies to me. I hear something and he says that I didn’t hear that, I heard something else.

Ted Cruz hates me. Why vote for that?


32 posted on 05/02/2016 2:40:20 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: bassmaner
Why has FR turned on Cruz?

Personally, for me, it was because Cruz supporters started posting so many vanity posts.

33 posted on 05/02/2016 2:40:29 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: ilgipper

Cruz is no”conservative champion”.

People finally figured out that he is an ambitious opportunist who wants to win at any cost, who played a conservative, because he figured that will get him elected president.


34 posted on 05/02/2016 2:40:38 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: bassmaner

I can’t speak for FR but I found myself souring on Cruz
because of his political tactics. Had he continued to
espouse his constitutional stand I would have had no
problem voting for him, he just lost me along the trail.


35 posted on 05/02/2016 2:40:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bassmaner

I might add that every political stunt Cruz has been involved in, smacked of riskless grandstanding. Oooh he fillibustered congress. BFD.


36 posted on 05/02/2016 2:42:06 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: bassmaner

Surrounded himself with scoundrels and scumbags.

And most important two words: “Neil Bush”


37 posted on 05/02/2016 2:42:12 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: bassmaner
1) He's not that likeable a guy.

2) People find it easy to make fun of him.

3) He's seen as being self-righteous holier than thou, so that it's easy to consider him a hypocrite.

4) The anti-Establishment thing turned on him. People sense that he's a privileged guy himself and his own words come back to hurt him.

5) There's a general feeling that movement conservatives are privileged people who know what side their bread is buttered on and act in accord with their own interests which aren't always those of the rank and file.

38 posted on 05/02/2016 2:42:33 PM PDT by x
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To: bassmaner
A CORRECTION IS IN ORDER:..... you posted that when Trump "turned" on Cruz after the Ben Carson Iowa debacle, a large contingent of FReepers started expressing their absolute abhorrence of Cruz.

Trump did not turn on Cruz. In Iowa, Cruz was still doing his obsequious Uriah Heep act.....ingratiating himself w/ the big guys like Trump.

But when Cruz showed his true colors......lying about Ben's absence, inveigling Ben's supporters to caucus w/ his supporters...... the proverbial **** hit the fan.

The more Cruz showed himself in this new light, the more offensive he became to onetime supporters.

The question remains: when is Cruz going back to Calgary?

39 posted on 05/02/2016 2:42:40 PM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: katnip

The night he blamed the Chicago near riots at a Trump rally on Trump, he became dead to me.

That for me was a turning point.


40 posted on 05/02/2016 2:42:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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