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Were Confederate Generals Traitors?
Creators ^ | June 28, 2017 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 06/28/2017 11:20:43 AM PDT by Sopater

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No, they were patriots.
1 posted on 06/28/2017 11:20:43 AM PDT by Sopater
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If you try to secede and lead a successful revolution, then you are a patriot. If you lose, you are a traitor. The winners write history. Thats just how it works.


2 posted on 06/28/2017 11:23:07 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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"the people of the East cannot reconcile their habits, views, and interests with those of the South and West."

Some things never change...

3 posted on 06/28/2017 11:24:13 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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If you try to secede and lead a successful revolution, then you are a patriot. If you lose, you are a traitor. The winners write history. Thats just how it works.

So, if you lead a revolution against tyranny, you won't know if you're doing your patriotic duty until the fight is over?
4 posted on 06/28/2017 11:25:04 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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The winners write history. Thats just how it works.

Well... that's how history works. But I think the thing in question here is truth, not history.

5 posted on 06/28/2017 11:26:44 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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Which ones were tried as traitors? AFAIK, none.


6 posted on 06/28/2017 11:27:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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The North’s battle cry- “Union.”
The South’s battle cry- “Freedom.”
Nuff said.


7 posted on 06/28/2017 11:27:49 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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I believe their pardons were worked out in the terms of surrender. Except maybe for Mosby and his Raiders.


8 posted on 06/28/2017 11:30:36 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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I am not a Southerner, but I never thought of the Confederate states as "rebel", nor the leaders traitors.

I look at the northeast states now and it is easy to see why the South wanted to be done with them, so do I. They were just a bit ahead of the times.

9 posted on 06/28/2017 11:34:20 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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I thought all of this historical fact was common knowledge and made common sense. It is a shame that this needs to be written.


10 posted on 06/28/2017 11:40:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Those who fired upon Fort Sumter may have had a problem.


11 posted on 06/28/2017 11:42:13 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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Southrons!

Lol.

I remember when the morons infiltrated here and called themselves Southrons.


12 posted on 06/28/2017 11:46:03 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Article 1 of the Treaty of Paris (1783), which ended the war between the Colonies and Great Britain, held "New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and Independent States." Representatives of these states came together in Philadelphia in 1787 to write a constitution and form a union.

The Treaty of Paris also said it was between two countries, not thirteen.

13 posted on 06/28/2017 11:46:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Which ones were tried as traitors? AFAIK, none.

True. However, they are currently being tried in the court of "public opinion" as many liberals in the fair cities of the South are working to remove the monuments to their memories.
14 posted on 06/28/2017 11:46:26 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Anyhow.

They was Dems.

Dems is always traitors.


15 posted on 06/28/2017 11:47:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
The South’s battle cry- “Freedom.”


16 posted on 06/28/2017 11:48:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Traitors by definition, became the enemy of the US.


17 posted on 06/28/2017 11:49:29 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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No matter what they did, one side would have called them traitors.

That, unfortunately, is how civil war works.

Far as I can tell, there were good and bad points about both sides of the war. They both had some good and bad arguments about the rightness of their cause.

To demonize one side or the other is to willfully ignore the lessons of history.


18 posted on 06/28/2017 11:50:55 AM PDT by Luircin
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I won't argue the point, but as a Yankee I have no trouble stipulating that they were traitors.

That said, they lost real bad and I am so-o-o-o-o-o over it.

Not even a little bit of temptation to desecrate their graves. I'm just not that kind of guy.

19 posted on 06/28/2017 11:51:55 AM PDT by Salman (I don't do Facebook, and neither should you.)
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“The North’s battle cry- “Union.”
The South’s battle cry- “Freedom.”
Nuff said.”

Ha ha.

This is why no one takes you (not you personally per se) seriously and communists can demagogue and use your stupidity to hurt all of us.

Southern Cry was literally Slavery.

If it wasn’t for the stupid Southern Democrats we’d never have had Obama and never have fallen in to the position we are in where we are practically a communist state.

It is all the Confederate’s fault and, more so, their successors who implemented Jim Crow and their other Big Government policies.


20 posted on 06/28/2017 11:52:28 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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