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Francisco Franco: Spanish Savior
www.youtube.com ^ | 2016 | VisionLiberty

Posted on 04/18/2018 9:35:42 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha

Few figures of the 20th Century have been as relentlessly maligned as Francisco Franco Bahamonde, who ruled as Spain’s Caudillo (supreme leader) from 1939 until his death in 1975. Franco’s death was celebrated with vulgar, vindictive glee in the obituary columns of Establishment publications that had treated the passing of Communist mass murderers with respectful solemnity.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: caudillo; condorlegion; franciscofranco; guernica; hugosperrle; rittervonthoma; spain
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To: DoodleDawg

Spain was also safe-haven for Jews fleeing from occupied Europe. Again occasionally Franco would say some things that could have been construed as anti-semitic, but that was done with the intention of keeping the Nazis at bay.


21 posted on 04/18/2018 10:19:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Thank you for posting.


22 posted on 04/18/2018 10:19:58 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: dfwgator

Gibraltar was a very key piece of real estate. If Franco would have thrown with Hitler and sealed off the Mediterranean, with the help of the Luftwaffe, the war in Europe would have been much different.


23 posted on 04/18/2018 11:21:35 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

This is and has been an issue of interest of me for some time. Read some balanced Spanish written accounts of Franco and you get a much more even balanced view of him. Not perfect but better than the alternative.

I am passionate enough to say that Americans Canadians and British that went to kill his soldiers don’t deserve any honors. They willfully chose to fight essentially on the behalf of the Soviets against the legitimate government of Spain, and thus, were terrorists in my mind.

His sin was being on the right. Same goes for Pinochet. Another maligned political figure of old is Oliver Cromwell, maligned by royalists.


24 posted on 04/18/2018 11:29:47 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, but the historical account of Geurnica is often very biased by those that wrote it.


25 posted on 04/18/2018 11:31:37 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: yarddog

Yes, he could have joined with Hitler but chose wisely.


26 posted on 04/18/2018 11:32:11 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Reminds me of when I rented “Pan’s Labyrinth”, I turned it off halfway through because it was the old tired “Franco Bad, Communists Good” crap.


27 posted on 04/18/2018 11:33:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Fiji Hill

I would take Franco Spain over limp wristed terrorist appeasing Spain of today.


28 posted on 04/18/2018 11:34:01 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: dfwgator

Under those same conditions, FDR was also an anti-Semite. He often cursed the Jewish lobby.


29 posted on 04/18/2018 11:34:51 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: dfwgator

Plus the movie was so disgusting and stupid, as well as pro-communist.


30 posted on 04/18/2018 11:35:43 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: yarddog
from what I've read, a long time ago, Spain had so many factions and Franco basically made one govt...I never understood the bitterness except that's what communists and leftists do...

dictartorship is only acceptable if the dictator is a communist..

31 posted on 04/18/2018 11:37:28 AM PDT by cherry
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Franco was a pretty sly fox. He always gave the impression of being friendly toward the Nazis who had after all helped him fight against the Soviet backed Republicans who wanted to establish a socialist dictatorship, buuuut at the same time he would never actually commit to doing anything significant to help the Nazis and would not get involved in the war.

After meeting with Franco and trying to get him to jump on board with the Axis, Hitler came away from the meeting saying he would rather have several teeth extracted than have to negotiate with Franco again. Spain had been backwards and the civil war left it significantly damaged. Spain was in no condition to start trading punches with America and the British Empire. Once the war was over, he was very cooperative with Britain and America against the Commies. Like Pinochet, he left his country in far better shape than he found it.


32 posted on 04/18/2018 12:15:19 PM PDT by FLT-bird (.)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Franco's Spain defeated Communism on the battlefield, which remains unique in Europe, and Spain remained neutral in WWII, so, well done!

33 posted on 04/19/2018 5:46:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Varda

Quite agree.


34 posted on 04/19/2018 6:38:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Sam Gamgee
There is a great difference between the country club, discreet anti-Semitism of the Northeastern WASP elite like FDR and the conspiracist beliefs found among European fascists and traditionalists. The old Yankee elite saw the Jews as rivals in the financial and business spheres, pushy and uncouth, but not the main source of evil in the world.
35 posted on 04/19/2018 7:06:10 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah he did didn’t he. The Commintern was heavily involved in this.


36 posted on 04/19/2018 1:28:13 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Wallace T.

Good point. Just another reason I guess I don’t think FDR is all that great.


37 posted on 04/19/2018 1:29:04 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: FLT-bird

Good post. Concur you on both Franco and Pinochet.


38 posted on 04/19/2018 1:32:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sam Gamgee

I would love to read a good account of Franco. I know Farewell Catalonia is a insightful Orwell account but I am looking for something more overall.


39 posted on 04/19/2018 1:39:03 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke

Yeah, I must have read it 20 years ago, so don’t recall who wrote it. I am cheap, so get most of my reading materials from the local library.


40 posted on 04/19/2018 1:41:57 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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