Posted on 06/20/2018 8:29:23 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Dan Hooper, a senior scientist with Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory has written a paper outlining a way future aliens could keep their civilizations alive in spite of the isolation due to an expanding universe. In his paper uploaded to the arXiv preprint server, he suggests they might consider collecting and storing stars.
A Dyson sphere is a theoretical structure able to house a star. Originally proposed by Freeman Dyson, the sphere was originally envisioned as a group of satellites completely encompassing a star to capture all of its energy. That energy could then be used for whatever purposes the civilization that created it desired. In this new effort, Hooper suggests aliens might be creating similar structures to provide power once the universe expands to an untenable size.
Prior research has shown that the universe is not just expanding, it is picking up speed as it does so due to dark energy. This means that almost everything in the universe is being flung farther apart from everything else. Such a scenario suggests that galaxies will become increasingly isolated, though the components of the galaxies will remain bound by gravity. So, Hooper wonders, what would an alien race do to ensure it has a steady source of power? He suggests they might be collecting stars at this very moment, getting ready for the days ahead when they will be too far away to grab.
Hooper notes that such a scenario is still very far off—on the order of 100 billion years from now. But he also notes that if aliens were grabbing stars from one galaxy and transporting them back to another, the time for each trip would be on the order of billions of years. Thus, they would have to be doing it now, before they run out of time. He acknowledges that humans would probably not be able to understand the mechanics of moving a star, but muses on the possibility of an alien race powerful enough to do so. He further suggests that if such activity is currently happening, we might be able to see evidence of it by looking for stars that seem to be moving between galaxies—or by looking for holes in galaxies where stars have already been removed.
More information: Life Versus Dark Energy: How An Advanced Civilization Could Resist the Accelerating Expansion of the Universe, arXiv:1806.05203 [astro-ph.CO] arxiv.org/abs/1806.05203
Abstract The presence of dark energy in our universe is causing space to expand at an accelerating rate. As a result, over the next approximately 100 billion years, all stars residing beyond the Local Group will fall beyond the cosmic horizon and become not only unobservable, but entirely inaccessible, thus limiting how much energy could one day be extracted from them. Here, we consider the likely response of a highly advanced civilization to this situation. In particular, we argue that in order to maximize its access to useable energy, a sufficiently advanced civilization would chose to expand rapidly outward, build Dyson Spheres or similar structures around encountered stars, and use the energy that is harnessed to accelerate those stars away from the approaching horizon and toward the center of the civilization. We find that such efforts will be most effective for stars with masses in the range of M∼(0.2−1)M⊙, and could lead to the harvesting of stars within a region extending out to several tens of Mpc in radius, potentially increasing the total amount of energy that is available to a future civilization by a factor of several thousand. We also discuss the observable signatures of a civilization elsewhere in the universe that is currently in this state of stellar harvesting.
Journal reference: arXiv
Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-06-aliens-harness-stars-universe.html#jCp
Once you master zero-point, you certainly can.
Presumably it takes less effort to do that then to keep star hopping.
I think I saw that episode on Star Trek Continues.
Has been done really.
“Fleet of worlds” by Larry Niven
The Pierson’s Puppeteers moving through space to escape the explosion at the center of the galaxy. Essentially the same thing.
It's close. What it actually is, it's a senior scientist with Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory with WAAAAAAY too much time on his hands...................
.....and don’t call me Shirley..........that was my uncle’s name.................
I could spend the 100 billion years referred to in this article trying to think of an appropriate response, and I wouldn’t come close to one as good as yours.
As long as public funds are used to pay for BS “research” like this, we’ll get more of it.
> liberals would never go for us doing it <
The environment impact studies alone would take centuries.
In approximately 4 billion years, give or take a few hundred million or so, Sol will become a Red Giant, expanding out in size to the orbit of Mars, engulfing everything within that sphere in just a matter of days, burning it ALL to dust and ash................
I’ve always wondered, if the universe is expanding to where is it expanding? Doesn’t it require that the “space” all of the matter in the universe exists in be infinite?
Space is expanding..............
I am pretty sure that this is not the only thing this scientist is doing on the publics dime, and one never knows what value might come from theoretical research, but I have to admit this particular research product seems to fall into the “whatever” category.
Expanding to where? If you could go to the very edge of the universe what’s on the other side for it to expand into?
Some of which are indistinguishable from Science Fiction.
According to some cosmological theories, if you go outside this Universe, you either enter another universe or you are in a ‘nowhere’ situation, stuck forever ‘between universes’...............
I loved the Ringworld novels in my teens. Larry Niven spun great tales. Most of it was hard scifi. A Dyson Sphere? Where do you get enough matter? How do you get stuff to stick to it? You would have to spin it on an axis and end up with essentially a ring world within the sphere.
PS. I like geeky chicks. I married one. Hat tip.
Such an advanced civil would have figured no to tap the latent energy of expansion (the zero point field). Collecting stars would be unnecessary.
Only a ‘Q’ could move stars around.
Hmmm, could that be why expansion rate is increasing?
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