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Formatting Messages with Outlook Express (HTML Bootcamp)
FreeRepublic ^ | July 20, 2002 | dinasour

Posted on 07/20/2002 10:24:53 AM PDT by dinasour

While all of us really love JimRob's new formatting page, it has some limitations. It's great for quick responses like: Go back to DU, CLYMER!
 
It is awkward when what you really want is: Go back to DU, Clymer!
 
And, of course, there is no spelling cheecker.
 
While there are many ways to overcome this, the least of which is becoming an HTML geek, those of us who have been assimilated into the Borg collective probably already have a very convenient tool for formatting simple HTML, namely Microsoft Outlook Express. As you probably know, this is Microsoft's "free" email reader that comes with Internet Explorer. You almost certainly have it installed on your computer already, but if not, go to
Microsofts IE download page.
 
If have not tested this with every version of Outlook, and my apologies in advance if this doesn't work with your version of Outlook. This message is being formatted with the version that comes with IE 5.5
 
Go create an forum message, proceed as follows.
 
Start Outlook Express, this is most likely in your "quick start" tray as the little envelope with arrows. If this is the first time, you will have to negotiate a number of dialogs concerning setting up an account. While I would like to be helpful, getting through this is beyond the scope of this document, but it's not that hard.
 
Once you get through this, click on "New Mail". You will get an editor window, somewhat similar to WordPad. Make sure you have "RTF (HTML)" checked in the "Format" menu and "Source Edit" in the view menu. The latter will give you a tab strip on the bottom called "Edit", "Source", and "Preview".
 
Now compose away, you have all the font tools and formatting tools you could possibly want, as well has a spelling checker.
 
To transfer the message back to the Free Republic posting page, proceed as follows. Click on the "Source" tab. Do not try to use the entire text that you see here, but rather, select only that part in between the tags <BODY...> and </BODY>, copy it to the clipboard, then paste it into Jim's form, and you are ready to go.
 
Note: I didn't even have to remember any &xxx codes to get tags (like <BODY>) to format properly, so if you want to end a message with </SARCASM>, all you have to do is type it.
 
Hint: to insert a hyperlink, type in the text that you want to appear as a link, select it, then click the "Create a hyperlink tool"
For Example: Everyone's favorite Web Site
 
Hint: to insert a picture, click on the "Insert picture" tool. Be sure that you specify the source as a URL (http://something) or no one but you will be able to see it.
 
For Example: every ones favorite columnist:
Enjoy
 
FRegards Al
 


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: help; html; newbie
I will monitor this thread and try to answer any questions that I can.
1 posted on 07/20/2002 10:24:53 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
Go back to DU, CLYMER!

2 posted on 07/20/2002 10:28:36 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Go back to DU, Clymer!

3 posted on 07/20/2002 10:31:05 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
I hope you know I was only joking :-)
4 posted on 07/20/2002 10:32:56 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Of Course
5 posted on 07/20/2002 10:33:34 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
And, of course, there is no spelling cheecker.

ROTFL! You're cheeky.

6 posted on 07/20/2002 10:35:28 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
I try.
7 posted on 07/20/2002 10:37:20 AM PDT by dinasour
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Comment #8 Removed by Moderator

To: us2ca
'Jus trying to do my part for my FRiends.
9 posted on 07/20/2002 10:48:18 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
I often use the method you describe, even though I know HTML pretty well. It's just so much faster. Sometimes I save messages that I know I may want to use again later.

I use the same version of Outlook Express as you mentioned too. I once installed the full Outlook program,but as far as I could tell, it did not have the source button available where I could edit the message HTML.

For that reason only, I uninstalled it and stayed with Express. (perhaps I just missed it - can anyone tell me?)

10 posted on 07/20/2002 10:50:58 AM PDT by kcpopps
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To: kcpopps
I have both Outlook and Outlook Express installed. You should be able to run them separately, although only one of them will be your default email program. You may have to restore the shortcut for Outlook Express.
11 posted on 07/20/2002 10:55:34 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: kcpopps
Just Testing    Thanks for showing this...
It Really saves a lot of time for me.  A real shortcut
 
    What else can I do?

12 posted on 07/20/2002 2:16:53 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: dinasour
Go Back to DU, Clymer!
 
Cool! Thanks!

13 posted on 07/20/2002 4:12:47 PM PDT by timpad
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To: dinasour
here
 
 
cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

14 posted on 07/20/2002 6:01:05 PM PDT by chnsmok
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To: dinasour
I'm still waiting for JR to implement a style-property filter so I can do more precise formatting--especially with tables--than is possible without the style tag. One of my favorite tricks used to be to use tables to overlay graphics on images; without the style tag, such formatting gets altered based upon a user's "font size" selection.
15 posted on 07/20/2002 6:50:38 PM PDT by supercat
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To: dinasour
For those with Netscape Communicator, the Composer function is an HTML editor that allows you to compose, change fonts, add pics, etc, until you like what you see. Then do view
source and paste as with Outlook. It is much faster than trying to type in HTML codes while making your message.
16 posted on 07/20/2002 6:54:07 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I will have to check that out. Being a good drone, I tend to gravitate to Microsoft products. Also, as a geek, what I really wanted was the spell checker, more so than format tools.
 
There are also tons of HTML editors out there For Example, but they tend to be optimized for complex web pages. The editor in Outlook is optimized (or simplified) for messages and I find that convenient.

17 posted on 07/20/2002 8:53:19 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: ActionNewsBill
What else can I do?

Well what do you what to do? (That was the insert horizontal line tool).
 
You will note, that when I quoted your message, I got the font and colors (mostly). All I had to do is select the text from my browser and paste it in my message window. No muss, no fuss. This trick may also work when you are composing articles from a web page, although as noted in message #15 not all the HTML thingies are supported by JimRob so you will have to be sure that preview looks ok.
 
If you are composing your magnum opus, you may want to take a while to consider it.  Click on File/Save and your message will be saved in "drafts" so you can review it when you are sober.
 
Also for your magnum opus, you may want to paste your message into Word, if you have it. Had I done that here, I would have found a few more stupid-non-spelling errors.
 
Another think that I like, is that because I am composing in a separate window, it's easier to surf around to find links, etc., without losing my place.
 
 

18 posted on 07/20/2002 9:16:55 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: chnsmok
Not quite, try here.
 
You need to paste over the initial http stuff.

19 posted on 07/20/2002 9:35:31 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: supercat
What I am waiting for is the ability to edit my message. JimRob's counterpart across the pond has this.
 
No matter how many times I try to proof it, there is always something like:
 
Go create an forum message...
 
Instead of
 
To create a forum message...
 
Some day, they will create a spell check that knows what I mean, rather than what I say.

20 posted on 07/20/2002 9:47:52 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: ActionNewsBill
think - thing
 
What's the difference?
 
See also message #20

21 posted on 07/20/2002 9:55:49 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
Yah, I know I screwed up. but since I am usually a thread killer, I did not think anyone would notice!
22 posted on 07/20/2002 11:12:15 PM PDT by chnsmok
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To: dinasour
What I am waiting for is the ability to edit my message.

There are pros and cons to having such abilities. My personal preference would be to have the system allow edits but have a publically-available "edit log", so that authors who said something which would not be useful to readers of the thread could adjust their writings to be more suitable, but anyone who wanted to could see what they'd originally written.

23 posted on 07/21/2002 12:51:25 PM PDT by supercat
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To: dinasour; chnsmok
way cool

I have Outlook but never about the VIEW > SOURCE EDIT while in COMPOSE MAIL.

neato burrito

Thx chnsmok for the tip.

BTW, the spell checker works only if you have Word or a similar word processing software on your PC.
24 posted on 08/05/2002 11:54:21 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: dinasour
Bold
Underline
Red
Blue
Big
Little
Cool!!
25 posted on 07/14/2003 4:55:46 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: dinasour
Thanks and bumped for future reference.
26 posted on 07/22/2003 12:56:38 PM PDT by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: dinasour

BTTT


27 posted on 09/09/2004 8:17:48 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
BTTT

Wow, thats a blast from the past.

Thanks.

28 posted on 09/10/2004 6:37:36 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: dinasour
Holy Cats!
 
 
It really works!!   Thanks a ton for the great hint on outlook!
 
 

29 posted on 10/18/2004 9:27:16 PM PDT by ManMountain (In case of social breakdown remember Liberals... The other white meat.)
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To: dinasour
 
I tried it but cannot get a pic to display.

30 posted on 10/19/2005 12:35:57 PM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: dinasour
Color-coding disappeared from HTML Source Editing in Outlook Express
 
I have used Outlook Express daily and extensively for years to write mail and web pages in HTML (this [present message is written in OE as well), under W98, W98SE, W2K, WXP, with OE4, 5, 6.
 
Unfortunately on 3 of the PCs involved in recent years, in the "Source" tab of the New Message being composed:
"OE > Ctrl+N > Format > Rich Text (HTML)", then "View > Source Edit", then click the "Source" tab at bottom of the New Message
the HTML source has lost its color-coding. This loss significantly lessens the efficiency and reliability of the code-editing.
 
I tried all sorts of "fixes" proposed on various places, for instance:
from which the most frequent advice was to add a key in Registry:
which didn't work.
 
On one of those PCs (W2K, Radeon 8500 64 BBA), in 2003 or 2004, I accidently found a workaround: disabling/renabling ATI Hydravision immediately renabled/disabled the color-coding in OE New Message HTML source, so I disabled Hydravision (and even uninstalled it). But now in 2005 I am unable to redo that workaround on my current main PC (W2KSP4, Gigabyte Radeon 7500 Pro), with last drivers tried being ATI Catalyst 5.12, then Catalyst 5.12-based Omega 2.6.87 (Omega > Radeon > W2K/XP).
 
Anyone here can help? TIA,
 
Paris, Fri 23 Dec 2005  09:50:30 +0100

32 posted on 12/23/2005 12:49:36 AM PST by Michel Merlin
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When I use the spell checker, it corrupts my tagline.
33 posted on 04/18/2007 11:21:08 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. )
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To: dinasour
 
 
  1. No Good
  2. No Good
  3. Pretty Good
  4. Pretty darn good
  5. Pretty darn small
  6. Pretty darn big

34 posted on 11/21/2009 9:04:29 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (I'm Jim Thompson and I say our government is a joke and its current make up is the punch line.)
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To: dinasour

Great tip about Outlook Express.

Thanks!


35 posted on 11/21/2009 9:36:03 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (I'm Jim Thompson and I say our government is a joke and its current make up is the punch line.)
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To: dinasour

I have tried to add a picture to a thread on here and cannot seem to get it to display. How do I do it?


36 posted on 11/07/2011 7:01:53 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dinasour

mmm...mmm...For the gopd okd das wehm conmemts like thus wer comnom...


37 posted on 06/09/2012 12:57:25 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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