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Which Greek City-State do you think we derive or modern day characteristics from Sparta of Athens

Posted on 11/15/2002 7:47:20 PM PST by F_L_A

Pick which one you think is right. I'm interested in hear what you think.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: athens; godsgravesglyphs; greece; sparta
My vote is Athens, we got our concept of Democracy there, Sparta was an oligarchy.
1 posted on 11/15/2002 7:47:20 PM PST by F_L_A
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To: F_L_A
Today's Everyman would consider Athens an oligarchy as well.
2 posted on 11/15/2002 10:26:46 PM PST by Maedhros
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To: F_L_A
I suppose you'll be asking us next ,"Who was the greater philosopher: Aristotle? Or Plato?" Followed by a gushing summary for Plato, a hearty recomendation of Kant, and plaintive cry to join the DNC. :-)

Hie thee, RAT! :-D
3 posted on 11/16/2002 8:50:16 AM PST by BradyLS
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To: F_L_A
Neither.

a.cricket

4 posted on 11/16/2002 8:52:47 AM PST by another cricket
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To: F_L_A
I tend to think that we are closer to Athens than Sparta, though I don't believe the Founding Fathers had either city in mind as a model for how things should work.
5 posted on 11/16/2002 10:35:30 AM PST by Commander8
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To: BradyLS; All
Actually I was just wondering, I've been reading the "Peloponnesian War" by Thucydides.

True that Athens wasn't a very good democracy, but still a democracy in theory.

If you want the Philospher Question you have to include Descartes, He is great.
6 posted on 11/16/2002 2:33:12 PM PST by F_L_A
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To: BradyLS
How is Kant similar to the DNC?
7 posted on 11/16/2002 8:17:40 PM PST by Maedhros
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To: Maedhros
I'm not a philospher so I can't explain it very well. If I had my Rand books handy, I'd offer some quotes that would address your question. Sorry I can't do better than that, but I had I gut feeling that we were in for a line of seemingly innocent questions and that the discussion would eventually bring us to the doors of the DNC.
8 posted on 11/16/2002 10:39:55 PM PST by BradyLS
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To: F_L_A
Lesbos.
9 posted on 11/16/2002 10:41:20 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Maggie Hinnom
I agree with you about Rome.

And I also agree with BradyLS about F_L_A. I 'feel' an aura of DNC here. Either that, or he/she really IS from Florida, judging by the spelling in the headline.
11 posted on 11/17/2002 10:21:57 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Maggie Hinnom
Ditto. I admire the Romans more than I do the Greeks.
12 posted on 12/08/2002 7:48:24 PM PST by JohnnyRidden
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