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One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease
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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz

TUESDAY, Oct. 17 (HealthDay News) -- A new study finds that at least 1 in every 4 smokers will develop progressive and incurable chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a much higher risk than previously believed.

COPD is a respiratory disease that results in blocked air flow to the lungs and grows progressively worse.

For this study, published online in the journal Thorax, researchers at Hvidovre Hospital analyzed data on 8,000 men and women, ages 30 to 60. All were monitored for 25 years as part of the Copenhagen City Heart Study.

At the start of the study, all the participants' lungs were healthy and working normally. However, over the course of the 25 years, the lungs of almost all the male non-smokers continued to function normally, compared to 60 percent of men who continued to smoke.

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Overall, 25 percent of the participants developed moderate or severe COPD over the 25 years. Persistent smokers were six times more likely to develop COPD than non-smokers.

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

The study also found a sharp decline in the risk of COPD among people who stopped smoking soon after the start of the study. Over the 25 years, none of these ex-smokers developed severe COPD.


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To: Alter Kaker
Just wait for the addicts on FR to attack you, however.

You're a nasty piece of work - I hope you're proud opf yourself.

141 posted on 10/17/2006 5:55:49 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz
You're a nasty piece of work - I hope you're proud opf yourself.

You're God-damn right I am. So... how's your cancer-pushing going?

142 posted on 10/17/2006 6:00:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: SheLion
Here's the lines I noticed:

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

So, out of 8000 people, 107 smokers and 2 non-smokers died DIRECTLY of COPD, over a period of 25 years.

That's one in every 800 that died directly of COPD. Not bad. One-eighth of one percent. I wonder if that's even statistically significant?

143 posted on 10/17/2006 6:00:34 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Chode
i don't say smoking is good for you, i just don't think it's as bas as they say it is.

You're right. Smoking is worse than they say it is. Until you've seen someone you love flop-around as they die from terminal lung cancer with their spine attached to a mechanical morphine drip, you've never seen pain. Bizarrely, they don't show that in Marlboro ads or even anti-smoking public serice announcements.

144 posted on 10/17/2006 6:03:02 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: brwnsuga
I just examined a smoker's lung in Anatomy this week. Very yucky, full of dark plaques, very hard to the touch compared to a healthy lung.

Considering how often pigs lungs that are injected with tar and other things are used, and stated they are human lungs, I seriously doubt what you examined was a smoker's lung.

Smoking is not good for anyone.

I've never met a person who says it is. Have you?

145 posted on 10/17/2006 6:04:45 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Judith Anne; SheLion
That's one in every 800 that died directly of COPD. Not bad. One-eighth of one percent. I wonder if that's even statistically significant?

Buy yourself a calculator. That's not 1/800, that's 1/80 who died, in the period of the study, from COPD. That doesn't include many others who died of breast, lung, throat, testicular and mouth cancers, emphysema, heart disease, stroke or other smoking-related ailments. Nor does it factor in the fact that a quarter of the subjects developed COPD -- resulting in debilitation and a huge decrease in quality of life, but not death.

146 posted on 10/17/2006 6:07:16 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: SheLion
Here's another one:

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Okay, so that means 30 percent of smokers didn't have healthy lungs, and 10 percent of non-smokers didn't have healthy lungs, at the end of 25 years. I'd like to see a breakdown of causes. How many had TB? Did they select out for other causes of lung disease? Is anyone even aware that there are other causes of lung disease than smoking? How many of them had asthma? How many had lung damage from pneumonia? I'd just like to know, before drawing any conclusions.

In the interests of full disclosure, I smoke between 5 and 15 cigarettes a day.

If there were not such extreme hatred for smelling even a molecule of smoke among the anti-smokers, there might be a possibility of a dialogue. Like how nicotine patches help some Alzheimer's patients, like how smokers are less likely to develop Parkinson's. Why can't we talk about this? Because the antis are so rabid. When someone attacks me, I become defensive. When they attack me for a LEGAL habit that I enjoy, I get angry as well. When they start with the name-calling, I quit listening.

147 posted on 10/17/2006 6:08:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Toby06
Copenhagen City Heart Study.

Copenhagen? The country of legalized drugs? Non-filter marijuana joints? What the hell do they care about the effects of smoking??????

148 posted on 10/17/2006 6:08:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Cure for liberal stupidity: Louisville Slugger, apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: Baynative
recharging and all at taxpayer's expense.

...Uh, not exactly. What was the multi-billion dollar tobacco settlement all about? What has been the purpose of all the exhorbitant taxes being placed on cigarettes by all the states?

To answer the above questions, to pay for our own misdeeds..........

Stop your whining, you ain't paying for it, us smokers are. At least thats what your nanny government is telling us.........

149 posted on 10/17/2006 6:13:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Cure for liberal stupidity: Louisville Slugger, apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh wahhh.

How do they blame lung cancer on somebody who quit smoking 25 years before they got it?


150 posted on 10/17/2006 6:14:06 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: Alter Kaker; metesky

I agree with metesky.........and if you call me, him or any of the rest of us on the Puff lists addicts again I WILL hit the abuse button on you.


151 posted on 10/17/2006 6:14:10 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Alter Kaker

Okay, one in 80, my mistake. One in 80 does not impress me either.

I didn't post to you, and I don't care to hear your overly emotional screeching, so leave me alone.

I'm a retired nurse. Everyone dies of something. There are worse things than lung cancer.


152 posted on 10/17/2006 6:14:55 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

153 posted on 10/17/2006 6:16:47 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: zarf

Glad someone on one of these threads has a relationship with truth.

I hope you have your hazmat suit on, BTW.


154 posted on 10/17/2006 6:30:36 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Trampled by Lambs

I'm still boggled that so many folks find

ANY

serious risk of dying such a horrible death

wonderfully acceptable in exchange for their "right" to engage in a dirty, offensive, smelly, dangerous-to-others; selfish-to-loved-ones habit.

BTW, I may or may not respond to shrill smokers' responses. Been there, done that.


155 posted on 10/17/2006 6:35:30 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: CJ Wolf

I've never observed that babes who were attracted to smokers were anything close to what I'd label the pick of the litter.


156 posted on 10/17/2006 6:36:16 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Judith Anne
I'm a retired nurse. Everyone dies of something. There are worse things than lung cancer.

There are a few things worse than lung cancer, but not many.

157 posted on 10/17/2006 6:38:28 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Gabz
I agree with metesky.........and if you call me, him or any of the rest of us on the Puff lists addicts again I WILL hit the abuse button on you.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

158 posted on 10/17/2006 6:39:20 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
My father and Uncle also a life long smokers died from COPD. It truly is a horrible way to die. What people don't seem to understand is that although they eventually do drown the death is slow.

Please don't interupt the denial and jokes here with a dose of reality.

I smoked for 30 years and thank God that I quit 7 years ago. I feel like a new man.

159 posted on 10/17/2006 6:40:18 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: VeniVidiVici
How do they blame lung cancer on somebody who quit smoking 25 years before they got it?

It's not an on-off switch. Having smoked at all dramatically increases your chance of getting lung cancer. The more and the longer you smoke, the greater that chance increases. Quitting helps limit the increase in risk, but it doesn't eliminate it.

160 posted on 10/17/2006 6:41:23 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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