Posted on 08/29/2009 7:31:05 AM PDT by miapelked
For too long conservatives (those who respect religion, patriotism, and freedom) have had to satisfy themselves with meager success. Conservatives may win an election or pass a bill, but we are starving for real victory.
To win real victory we must colonize the left. We must create a conservative socialist party. The only selling point for the left is socialism, so we must detach socialism from the main body of leftist dogma. When a conservative right battles a conservative left we can achieve real, lasting victory. Both sides would espouse our core principles.
I support a conservative socialist or populist party that would:
1) Help out working people.
2) Respect the values of working people (religious values, family values). The party would oppose homosexual marriage and abortion.
3) Protect human rights.
4) Support democracy.
Fortunately, the world is moving toward this new system. The old cold war dichotomy is fading away. With the Soviets gone, why would anyone submit to Communism? Does anyone think the less-well-off have any real affection for Marx or atheism?
I envision conservative capitalists (prevalent in North America, Europe, and Japan) contending with conservative socialists (prevalent in the tropics). The two sides would move up and down, but conservatism would win either way.
Mr. miapelked, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
5.56mm
Truth is never advanced by accepting error.
LOL! Poooooor kitteh.
Conservatism is about minimal government and maximum personal freedom. Government should be local, then state to handle regional differences, and federal to deal with international considerations and provide for the defense (and offense if necessary) for the country as a whole.
Socialism is about centralized governmental control in which all aspects come from the top down and drowns personal freedom in its ever growing control by a few elite families that fashion themselves as the intelligentsia and kings and queens. Socialism could almost be called a monarchy of the elite.
Conservative socialism...you are a moron.
Perhaps you should consider signing on with his 2012 campaign?
I’m gonna miss miapelked — see, already zotted. I missed.
>We must create a conservative socialist party.<
Done.
McCain, Graham, Snowe, Collins, Arnie...
I could go on forever.
It’s already been tried and it’s definitely not working.
You got it, ZOT.
Libertarianism is about anything goes, no borders, if I don’t hurt you...it’s cool.
A conservative socialist. Is that like a Christian witch?
I think it’s more akin to a Marxist libertarian (just like Bill Mahar!).
“conservative socialist party” - WTF are you talkin bout?
You’re new here, right?
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