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Yo Bama, BC maybe fake... (Vanity)
april 28, 2011 | rgt

Posted on 04/29/2011 3:26:01 AM PDT by RGT

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To: bolobaby

you guys are on the wrong track...

The ‘1’ has dithering on the pixels surrounding it, showing that it has many levels of greyscale.

It has nothing to do with less ink

The other numbers are monochrome- that means they were scanned in as black and while. You cannot have both from the same scan


141 posted on 05/03/2011 7:37:07 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: muawiyah
no, i got an asshole problem, you

You're a name-calling incompetent boob pretending he knows something to try to ‘muddy the waters’ and distract people when we are busy demonstrating facts.

way too much like a liberal

You claim that you have a 'team' of 30 programmers that you could put on this is laughably silly.

I am not a newbie, I have been a PAYING and CONTRIBUTING member since the sinkmeister was staining blue dresses.

I have degrees in physics AND computer science and have TAUGHT and programmed digital imaging since the before JPEG standard was new, and have been to Fort Huachuca for certification of military standard NITF image format, so yes I do know what I am talking about.

Your arguments are nothing valid, and are meant to lead people off into tangents. Why?? Is that your marching orders from the white house?

If you got a problem with Obama, but dont like the 'birther' issue then find an issue you like to argue, instead of arguing with fellow freepers.

I swear I spend more time arguing with people who are supposed to be on MY SIDE with this issue...This just happens to be hat I do for a living

Normally it is OK because that is the best way put your arguments to the test, to see if others can shoot them down.

You have not shot down one argument with any counter-proof except with stupidity and irrelevant nonsense. I did not respond after your idiotic link because it was NOT RELEVANT to this discussion and you are wasting a lot of peoples time.

But I think that is your goal, isn't it.

142 posted on 05/03/2011 7:54:33 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: bolobaby
bolo, why don't you and muawiyah go find an issue that you DO LIKE if you really want to take down obama (which I am really starting to question)

You have gone past being useful here, up to a point it was OK to listen to your horseshit because it helped us to beef up our proof and bolster our case for this being MANUFATURED document.

But now you are into tangents like "this is a loser issue - why not leave it alone"

You leave it alone if you want, no one is stopping you. Find one of the many many other impeachable offenses this communist traitor has committed and go for it. And you WILL HAVE MY 100% SUPPORT (unlike yours here)

This issue just happens to be in my area of expertise, what i do for a living, every single day.

143 posted on 05/03/2011 8:01:40 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K
You are EXACTLY the kind of poster I was just discussing who demands that anyone getting close to the truth of the matter quit talking about it.

So, you in the Executive Office Building or locked up over in the federal brig?

144 posted on 05/03/2011 8:01:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rolling_stone

Does muawiyah talk like a gvernment bureaucrat or what?

A few days back he actually said “[computerization] is the reason government bureacuracy HAS NOT GROWN in the last 30 years”

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha
dead giveaway


145 posted on 05/03/2011 8:06:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: moehoward

I think that might be what AP did- but if so, then why doesn their scanned image have the same layers?

Turn on the OCR AP and see if they can reproduce it- I guarantee they cant


146 posted on 05/03/2011 8:07:35 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: muawiyah

Huh?? you are the one trying to stop discussion on this issue

I am discussing indisputable facts - that this is a MANUFACTURED document

if you cannot be convinced by facts then that is your problem and you should seek help


147 posted on 05/03/2011 8:12:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: muawiyah; rolling_stone

That stupid discussion has nothing to do with digital imaging, so DONT GET SUCKED IN ANYMORE ‘stone- that is muawiyah’s purpose, i think.

I have been a software engineer doing contract work in and out of government agencies for over 25 years.

They have some of the worst and most archaic computer systems in the world. And they are paying millions for them. I worked at one place where they had a 30 year old mainframe to do one database I rewrote in Microsoft Access for them in about a week.

They coninue to use the 30 year old mainframe and pay about 6 people to run it, along with hundreds of thousands in lease payments.


148 posted on 05/03/2011 8:18:15 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K
"I think that might be what AP did-.."

The AP version is not he same as what the White House had on their site. It is completely different in proportion, and it does not have the same pixel arrangement in the problem areas of the White House version.

In short, there is no way the AP version could have been reproduced from the White House website version.

The questions remain, where did the AP get their copy, and why did the White House alter their version.

149 posted on 05/03/2011 9:02:59 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Mr. K
Sounds like the FBI. Sorry. We didn't do that. My agency was always buying the latest and greatest in huge quantities.

Contractors rarely good a good view of what an agency is really up to anyway.

150 posted on 05/04/2011 3:54:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K
It really doesn't matter if it's "manufactured" if ALL the other documents being pulled from the digital data base are "manufactured" exactly the same way. That simply means it's fairly advanced as far as a state birth certificate operation goes.

DC, for instance, is still CREATING a brand new printed document from the data base ~ you couldn't get a digital image out of it if you bribed the mayor. Folks have noted that the director of Hawaii's DOH had been saying that the short form document was drawn from a data base and printed.

Your attempt to demolish the legitimacy of the Obama LFBC without any consideration of what the normal practices of Hawaii DOH are is exactly the thing that serves the interests of the Obamistas.

You can have a gazillion little factoids that focus mostly on the quality of the print job but if you don't know how the entire system works over time, and how they did it 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 20 years ago and 10 years ago, and what major changes were made to the system, then you have no idea where such "factoids" might well arise out of the normal operation of the system.

You also have to account for the fact that a really high class forgery operation is going to attempt to recreate a document that is indistinguishable from contemporaneous documents.

There are SEVERAL LFBC from Hawaii whose creation begins 40 years ago and ends up as a recent printout within the last year.

They look REMARKABLY like the latest Obama document!

So far nothing you've contributed adds one jot or tittle to what we've already figured out about the Obama LFBC. But you have railed against the efforts of others to contrast and compare, and to determine what was the normal process affecting a data base with the Obama LFBC information over time.

That, my strange little friend on FR, is the way a professional troll works ~ we've met your kind before!

151 posted on 05/04/2011 4:06:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

ummm... according to your freeper profile you spent 38 years in the Post Office.

Then you told me you were in charge of “a team of software devlopers” and you would put them to work on this document if they were not busy with other things

now you hint you were with ‘an agency’?

go away, obama stooge troll


152 posted on 05/04/2011 6:29:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K

Listen, just because you work as a register clerk at Kinko’s doesn’t mean you are an expert in imaging.

And - as to this issue - I have started to ignore it, just like every other sane person.

Have fun foaming at the mouth!


153 posted on 05/04/2011 6:30:54 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Mr. K
I have no idea where you got the "software developer" thing from. Why would I say that?

Trace your posts back to see who said what about which.

Your total incoherency the other day suggested you were tipping a few bottles. Now we have evidence.

154 posted on 05/04/2011 6:30:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; bolobaby

you and bolo should get a room

I posted factual information about this document, all of which I hope can be used to bring this kenyan communist down.

You attacked me personally, and defended the announted won.

Who sounds more like a liberal shill?


155 posted on 05/04/2011 10:20:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Mr. K

You attacked me for something I never posted. That’s so typical of Leftwingtard thought.


156 posted on 05/04/2011 10:25:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K

You attacked me for something I never posted. That’s so typical of Leftwingtard thought.


157 posted on 05/04/2011 10:26:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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