Yo Bama, BC maybe fake... (Vanity)

april 28, 2011 | rgt

[The Raven]

We need another BC from the same day to compare

[Mr. K]

Just the fact that it has photoshop LAYERS tells me it is MANUFACTURED

[stickywillie]

“Just the fact that it has photoshop LAYERS tells me it is MANUFACTURED”.....why isn’t the donald on this like a cheap suit? this is sooooo obvious, and no one is touching it. why else would the thing be put on layers? And the green background under the new information has been erased to allow for the new information. It is just astounding they released this in layers. wt*?

[muawiyah]

IF the original document that provides the textual image had been done all at one time on a single machine by just one typist on a single sheet all of that might be true.

However, it is clear that this form was completed at different times on at least two different typewriters by maybe as many as 5 different typists of varying degrees of skill. Plus it was done on a multi-page form!

Which makes all of your suppositions less than probative.

[BobP]

This PDF Certificate of Live Birth released is not an image of the original. It may not even be a true copy, it was put together as an abstract from the original document.

Notice that at the bottom it says its a certified copy or an abstract. Mr. Obama is a theoretical American.

An OCR document presented with fancy Photoshop borders is already digitally altered. If you have already altered one thing, you can easily alter something else with the click of a mouse on Photoshop. A document with 1961 writing and a 21st Century safety paper background is obviously not the original.

To determine authenticity you need a real, actual document.

So did the president act stupidly by releasing a PDF abstract document? Maybe not.

If the State of Hawaii put an official seal on it then that ends the discussion of the authenticity as far as any court is concerned. Every state and court must give full faith and credit to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every State. And federal courts are also required to give full faith and credit to the public records of every state.

Hawaii says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue. It's entitled to full faith and credit.

At least maybe now the piss-stream media will stop insisting that the COLB is the birth certificate. And another distraction to keep from reporting on Obama's incompetence is also removed. /sarc

But if Obama became an Indonesian citizen (Barry Soetoro) when he was growing up there, when did he apply to become an American again?

On April 27, 2011 at a news conference Obama denounced the ''silliness,'' the ''sideshows and carnival barkers'' that forced him to release the document after years of speculation.

''We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve.'' the president said before flying off to Chicago. The press conference was held a few minutes after 9:45 a.m. At 10:05 a.m. he was in the air, according to a White House pool report, which noted ''Oprah awaits.''

The only carnival-barker sideshow that's been going on for 3 years has been the Obama Snake Oil Show.

Arrest me, for what? I'm late for Oprah!
I've got lies to tell and a nation to destroy.

Countdown until Obama leaves Office: 631 days as of April 29, 2011.

[Pan_Yan]

[muawiyah]

This document was created from a data base that contains images of the original typed page(s) and signatures.

To print the document it was run through a program that reformatted it for the printer and its pre-programmed dimensions and margins.

People do this every day. What you see is NORMAL.

[Leo Carpathian]

...aaaand signatures are pasted as needed?????

[muawiyah]

If need be, of course. You do realize the integrity of ANY DOCUMENT these days is guaranteed ONLY by the integrity of the system in which it is stored.

The Paperless world of recording keeping is upon us.

Next the Library of Congress on a thumb-drive. Every man a Librarian!

[ml/nj]

This PDF Certificate of Live Birth released is not an image of the original. It may not even be a true copy, it was put together as an abstract from the original document.

This is BS.

Read the letter from Obama's lawyer, and from Obama himself. They requested two copies. The lawyer would fly to Hawaii to pick them up herself. (Nice gal!) They didn't request a pdf. If the these letters and the BC were honest, it would have been the WH that produced the pdfs, and all they could use to produce the BC pdf would have been the sheet of paper with the BC image supplied to them by Hawaii.

ML/NJ

[wintertime]

Hawaii says they have certified this copy. So legally, that ends the issue. It's entitled to full faith and credit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I missed that. Where did Hawaii say that Obama’s image of his birth certificate was certified? Where is the seal?

Also....I find it interesting that the time of birth is the same on Obama’s image as is on Lucas Smith's “Kenyan” image. Hm? How would Lucas Smith know that exact time unless the Smith document is the real one and the Obama forgers took off Smith's document?

Maybe there is an explanation for that.

[Puckster]

“Which makes all of your suppositions less than probative.”

So, your saying that the possibility of 5 seperate participants in the completion of the form is normal?

I didn’t realize they had such a break down in labor for just one form back in 1961.

Less probative?

[muawiyah]

Different elements on that form occurred at different times ~ the name of the hospital, for example, happened once. The date happened different times. The baby was born once. He was named once. The witness who provided the information was able to do so probably a couple of times (that was his mother BTW and she had a saddle block eh) ~ bet she was happy but was she lucid?)

So, the form went into and out of typewriters.

Did you imagine someone just sat down at a typewriter and whizzed through this document? Hardly likely. This was a working form and was handled by several people ~ e.g. nurses, clerks, volunteers, doctors, etc.

Think through the process ~ it takes place whether or not there's a form there!

[shalom aleichem]

The Doctor’s signature appears to be close to “Ukulele” which is a common Hawaiian instrument, small guitar, which early TV star Arthur Godfrey made famous. LOL
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Picture-14.jpg

[muawiyah]

I don't think that's the doctor, but rather a gentleman with four traditional Chinese names, three of which he represents with initial letters only ~ followed by Lee.

Looks pretty legit. There are people who say he actually existed.

[Puckster]

Here is a “possible” explanation for some of the “possible” perceived discrepancies.

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/nro-on-the-pdf/

We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.

The PDF is composed of multiple images. That’s correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as they’re being called, aren’t layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. They’re not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.

What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

http://www.nationalreview.com/

[Malsua]

Looks pretty legit. There are people who say he actually existed.

Not to mention the same name is on other Certs from around the same time.

[muawiyah]

‘At’s al’as a clue!

[Puckster]

Just a break from all seriousness:

Four worms and a lesson to be learned!!!!

A minister decided that a visual demonstration would add emphasis to his Sunday sermon.

Four worms were placed into four separate jars.

The first worm was put into a container of alcohol.

The second worm was put into a container of cigarette smoke.

The third worm was put into a container of chocolate syrup.

The fourth worm was put into a container of good clean soil.

At the conclusion of the sermon, the Minister reported the following results:

The first worm in alcohol ... Dead.
The second worm in cigarette smoke ... Dead.
Third worm in chocolate syrup ... Dead.
Fourth worm in good clean soil ... Alive.

So the Minister asked the congregation,
What did you learn from this demonstration?

Maxine was sitting in the back, quickly raised her hand and said, ‘As long as you drink, smoke and eat chocolate, you won’t have worms!’

That pretty much ended the service!