Yeaeeah right, whatever you say, Bill.
Posted on 04/29/2011 3:26:01 AM PDT by RGT
The ‘normal’ thing would have been to take the original BC to the copy machine and run off a couple for Obambi, stamp ‘em, and send them off in the mail.
That is what happens any time I need a copy of my birth certificate or my children's.
That should have been pretty easy, dontcha think?
Why did he have to send a team of lawyers to sign ‘waivers’? (what waivers?)
This is NOT normal, this is a ‘constructed’ abstract that means nothing. I can ‘construct’ you anything you want, with imaging software - and I have been working in computer digital imaging for 20 years.
[I am thinking the ‘waivers’ were for whoever constructed this fake to avoid criminal prosecutions.]
If you could do 238 wpm I’m in awe! I took typing in high school because I was smitten with a cutie (don’t even remember her name now) and typing was the only class I could sign up for that she was in as well. Never got anywhere with the girl, my knowing how to type did keep me out of the rice paddies and behind a gun-metal grey Steelcase desk with a big clunky Underwood to pound on all day. Usually could manage 50-60 wpm with few errors. (I once in the seventies chatted up a lass at a typing service across from campus while she was finishing up a term paper for me, and was stunned at how fast she was typing - she claimed over 200 wpm, and I believe her. Fingers flying!!!)
I still, looking at the BC, don’t see any reason why the person or persons typing it would have had any reason to adjust the paper in the carriage after “Kapiolani” or after “BARACK” in box 8. Indeed, the horizontal line below “Kapiolain” starts to curve down while “Kapiolani” itself above it continues straight, even if you expand it and place a straight-edge at the bottom of the serifs. This suggests to me that it was typed on a form copied from a book, scrubbed of the original data, and then filled out by someone who was taking pains to make it appear to have been typed on a flat form which appeared later to be curved because of the artiface of copying from a bound volume.
Anyway, glad to see some folks who know what the’re about are on the case.
I have been workign in digital imaging for over 20 years.
You are totally incorrect.
The EASY thing would have been to take a copy of his original BC to the copy machine and run off a couple for Obambi.
That is NOT what this is. This is a composit image, generated in photoshop. I can remove Obambi’s name and give you a PDF of anyone you like as being born there.
What he should have gotten was what you and I can get any time we want, without a team of lawyers having to sign ‘waivers’ - a plain old Xerox machine copy of the original.
Just like any one of us can get- except, it seems, for Obama.
Spot on.....abstract as an adjective.
HDOH were just dipping their toes in the water when making the absurd statements that he was a Natural-born American Citizen. Might as well forge a Certification with a few signatures.....What the hell. The press won't look into it at all.
I'm hoping someone can nail the SOB on his bogus social security number(s).
You are being stupid.
The evidence here is that this is a photoshopped COMPOSITE image- not a photocopy of the original. That is a simple fact.
I am stating nothing else, except that my 20 years experience in digital imaging tells me this document would not hold up in a court of law (certified or not) as a photocopy of anything. It is MANUFACTURED.
Is he born in USA? I am not saying that here.
But it seems he finds it very difficult to do what you or I can easily do- go to the hall of records and pay $12 for a xerox copy of an original BC.
Why after ALL THIS HYPE does he still have to produce a composite abstract? And why does it take a team of lawyers to sign waivers?
But they did not ‘center’ actual typewriter-typed names into boxes...
Yeaeeah right, whatever you say, Bill.
That's clear to you? Then you know nothing about digital images or OCR.
I have been designing and writing computer software for digital imaging for over 20 years.
That statement you made is 100% wrong.
It would have been a simple task to take an original BC to the copy machine and run off a few. You and I can do that. Why does Obama find that so difficult.
Occams' razor applies here- he cannot run off copies of an original because it was not easier to do that, for some reason.
I'm not into the process all that deep having come from the generation of line-printers, band-printers, and fixed font laser printers but I do have stuff in my home that's pretty good, pretty up to date, and I have graphic/art software on an immensely large frame that can do anything you want, so I believe ANYTHING could have happened.
None of the various errors, inadvertencies, realities, or bubbles in the resulting print image can be ruled in or out ~ either by practical experience in an office environment with baby oil all over the place, or practical experience making bad stuff look real!
Just can't be done.
I came to this realization almost 10 years ago when a fellow showed me a picture his shop had cooked up that showed the pope meeting Hillary Clinton and he has his hand on her butt.
Still, if they saved the footprint thing there may be some usable DNA on there. We have systems now that are sensitive you can take really old ~45,000 year old, DNA and trick it out.
We could see if the Obama of the footprints is the Obama of the White House.
Look for the Democrats to put that out pretty darned soon.
I'm not into the process all that deep having come from the generation of line-printers, band-printers, and fixed font laser printers but I do have stuff in my home that's pretty good, pretty up to date, and I have graphic/art software on an immensely large frame that can do anything you want, so I believe ANYTHING could have happened.
None of the various errors, inadvertencies, realities, or bubbles in the resulting print image can be ruled in or out ~ either by practical experience in an office environment with baby oil all over the place, or practical experience making bad stuff look real!
Just can't be done.
I came to this realization almost 10 years ago when a fellow showed me a picture his shop had cooked up that showed the pope meeting Hillary Clinton and he has his hand on her butt.
Still, if they saved the footprint thing there may be some usable DNA on there. We have systems now that are sensitive you can take really old ~45,000 year old, DNA and trick it out.
We could see if the Obama of the footprints is the Obama of the White House.
Look for the Democrats to put that out pretty darned soon.
The full faith and credit clause does not apply to documents where the fraud is very obvious.
Then there are the jokers who start in the middle, printing by hand, and then write down the right hand margin to get it all in.
prove it- you are making things up in your head now
obviously you have never used a manual typewriter
*sigh* I wish I was that young (but not that naive or immature)
Shouldnt you be on DUh?
Now, more recently, I suppose that copies were made of the 2 master copies the lawyer brought over from Hawaii the other day. There's also a digital copy of those copies. I don't think anyone has yet claimed a digital copy of the signal sent from the data base system to a printer, but that'll be up eventually.
So, yes, everything "NORMAL"
Why do we keep getting pictures of a thing, rather than the thing itself?
The State of Washington sent me a copy of mine. I can lay it on the table and let you look at it.
Why won’t he do the same for the “Journolists”? But they don’t care, they would rather see what he gave them. lap dogs.
When I was in college earlier I used the family MANUAL TYPEWRITER ~ builds muscles fast.
Earlier, in highschool I used electric typewriters.
My mother, way back in the Navy Department in DC during WWII. Where she worked they used the latest and greatest and that had to be the IBM electric with proportional spacing.
BTW, kerning falls within the category of proportional spacing, but it has an added feature of sliding the a under the bar of the t and so forth ~ which is way beyond what the early electrics could do.
I've had several manual and several electric typewriters over the years. I prefer a DEC keyboard myself, but they quit making those decades ago ~ and IBM had a pretty good input keyboard with a big hulking electrical connector plug ~ smooth flowing keys though.
So, what is it you want to talk about regarding typewriters?
It's a mixed bag out there. Don't think that because it's done one way in your state it's done the same in other states, or even in different parts of your state.
Over the years I've been able to visit the printing/mailing operations of a good number of state governments.
Although mailing is pretty important stuff for governments that do business by mail, they never pony up the money for good systems so they are always in trouble with the post office.
Hawaii has a different reputation. The equipment and systems are good. You don't speak the local creole the employees will treat you like a stranger. Really bizarre social scene there.
I think I figured it out.
If you watch the “layer” videos, you’ll find that one layer only contains signatures. And that is what they needed for this thing. A doctor’s signature. bingo.
I don’t know where obama was born, but it wasn’t this hospital. And it certainly wasn’t by Dr. David Sinclair.
Given that we are up against one of two scenarios ~ (1) That we are up against some master forgers who are only a step or two ahead of us, if that much. Or, (2) That we are up against the reality of 1961, which is just before a major period of advancement in the production of printed/photographed documents ~ so nothing we commonly do today was done then. They did something else and most of us are simply too young to know about it.
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