Posted on 06/23/2022 2:22:44 PM PDT by algore
More than a century after a mentally ill concert violinist shot and killed an up-and-coming novelist in New York City, leading to the strictest gun restrictions in the nation, the U.S. Supreme Court has struck down the law.
The 6-3 ruling on Thursday reversed a lower court's opinion, which had upheld the 111-year-old New York law restricting licenses to carry concealed weapons in public to those demonstrating a specific need or threat.f
Following a bizarre murder-suicide in 1911 on a New York City sidewalk outside The Princeton Club - a building that was home to a legendary architect gunned down five years earlier - a local coroner's clerk's research of the city's skyrocketing gun violence led him to focus on how a deranged musician had acquired the murder weapon.
George Petit LeBrun, who wrote in his memoir that he believed that guns were too readily available to 'irresponsible persons,' and if a law restricting who was able to buy firearms was in force, then the 'insane v musician could have brought the pistol used to kill the writer.'
LeBrun enlisted support from a state senator and they used the novelist's murder to push through the law that would lead to the strictest gun restrictions in the country.
Witnesses said the gunman then stepped in the gutter and proclaimed, 'And here I go,' before shooting himself in the head.
The body of the Harvard graduate and a concert violinist remained splayed on the curb, witnesses said, as passersby carried the man he had shot into the lobby of The Princeton Club.
The Princeton Club - which is now the site of the Grammercy Park Hotel - had previously been the home of legendary architect Stanford White. He was shot and killed at a rooftop theater five years earlier.
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New York State ... Hell on Earth II
i might be wrong, but i don’t believe this has anything to do with getting a permit, merely if you have one, you can carry concealed...
New York State was shamefully allowed to get away with trampling on Americans’ constitutional rights for over 100 years.
That has finally been addressed.
How does that work?
First a permit to carry, then a license to conceal it?
How hard is it to get a permit to merely carry, without concealing?
And like street gangs didn’t continue to have guns after that?
In NYork, impossible. Unless you are elite, celebrity, or politico — or any of the guards they hire to protect them in the ‘Ellhole that is NY.
What caused this was a phrase “may permit” in the law — as in when we bloody well feel like it (or you give us $$) we may give you a permit to carry. My understanding is that a dude in NYC wanted to take his gun to a shooting range. But, it is illegal in NYC to take a gun out of your house unless you have a carry permit — see previous.
He recognized this as asinine and sued.
So, instead of having the opportunity to give permits out to folks who might actually need it, NY (& the other 5 or so states) may now not deny a permit to any US citizen to “bear arms” (as noted in BORights).
The states just got screwed.
Ha ha ha.
Check
So what is the issue?
Carrying a weapon in the first place?
Carrying it out in the open where people can see it?
Blending into the woodwork with a weapon you are carrying on your person and can quickly draw and point, but that otherwise most if not all people have no idea you are carrying?
Why the fuss about “concealed” carry. Is that the only way to carry, and thus protect yourself against unexpected assaults, practically speaking?
Sorry to be so thick but I can’t keep up with all the ways Constitutional rights are drained of all value.
I retired from the New York State Police. We were prohibited from carrying a firearm off duty in the five boroughs of New York City. I literally worked across the Bronx/Westchester line. Guys on the way into the City with their families would stop at the Barracks and put their personal OD carry in their locker and take their division issue firearm. That way in case they had to use it, NYPD would be seizing NYSP property and not the individual Trooper’s personal firearm.
Sounds like a bad part of town.
The Left gets laws changed based on single events.
there are two kinds of permit in NY, on premises and concealed
if i read this right, this says if you have an on premises permit, it’s now a carry permit
i’ve had one for 46yrs
Sure this was not one of Mayor “Mad” Tin Sullivan’s plans to disarm the people while leaving his gang armed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Sullivan
So a carry permit is a permit to carry ir transport the weapon from place to place, whenever you choose to do so, whether you conceal the weapon or not?
The way I read it is you have to apply for a carry permit and meet all the requirements. All that changed is that no requirement may be that you show a special need.
I think you needed a permit even to open carry, and they weren’t giving them out.
This might have been used as a pretext for the law, but it was pushed through by "Big Tim Sullivan" who ran the infamous Tammany Gang and the organized crime in New York City.
It was put through to protect his enforcers.
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