Posted on 02/23/2023 12:51:48 AM PST by Olog-hai
A new national poll suggests that Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters are becoming more supportive of the idea of President Biden as their party’s nominee in 2024.
Half of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents questioned in an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released Wednesday said their party has a better chance of winning the White House in 2024 with Biden as the nominee. Forty-five percent said another candidate would improve their chances of winning.
That marks a major shift in public opinion in the Marist poll, as the president was underwater on that question in November. …
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“an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll”
Nice try, Rupert Murdoch.
Astroturf
Some alternate reality, where the bulk of society doesn’t really believe the ‘message’ or ‘brand’.
BTTT
FOX has a new special on about DeSantis abd the promos were so over the top gushing favorable about RDS abd his wife that ot was sickening. Paul Ryan probably wrote and directed it. Clearly, he is their globalist pick. Anybody who doesn’t see that FOX news has an agenda and that their anchors aren’t paid shills is blind.
Well, they are laying people off because viewership is down.
I remember 2020 polls as well, but resident Huggies still “won.”
Yep. The wife and I noticed all the fluffing going on.
NPR? Manufactured news.
Murdoch Faux News,
any questions?
Could Paul Ryan and the other traitors at Fox News be anymore obvious? We truly have the most evil people on the planet at the top of both political parties at the moment. Is there anyone at the near the top of either party that isn’t owned by the WEF or the CCP?
You cant fix stupid.
“FOX has a new special on about DeSantis and the promos were so over the top gushing favorable about RDS and his wife that it was sickening. Paul Ryan probably wrote and directed it. Clearly, he is their globalist pick. Anybody who doesn’t see that FOX news has an agenda and that their anchors aren’t paid shills is blind.”
Yes, I was telling my relative about this new Fox Nation special that Rupert and his son Lachlan are pushing. The Murdoch family have turned on Trump big-time and now are pushing DeSantis to announce a run for Prez as they see him as the only truly viable alternative that could possibly win against Trump.
The Murdochs, anti-Trumpers, RINOs, Establishment globalist financiers, and neo-cons all hate Trump and therefore are throwing their money and backing to DeSantis in order to get rid of Trump. This new Fox Special is hosted by Brian Kilmeade, a little guy with a big Napoleonic complex who has ingratiated himself into Rupert’s favor (you see Kilmeade everywhere on Fox now) by ignoring Trump’s existence in his commentary and on his own program, while pushing DeSantis, knowing the Murdochs will love him for it.
In other words, Kilmeade is a small in stature but big of mouth shill for the Murdoch’s new dislike campaign against Trump. Thus Kilmeade is hosting this DeSantis documentary. Guess who he interviews about how great DeSantis is and how he should run now for President in 2024 (rather than wait until 2028 to run). Jeb Bush ..., that’s who Kilmeade interviews; Jeb who hates Trump with a passion. Jeb Bush, who lives here in FL (I do too) and who along with Karl Rove and Paul Ryan (both working for Fox) and other Trump haters, including some big money Establishment types, are all working behind the scenes to make sure DeSantis runs.
They are filling DeSantis campaign coffers with lots and lots of bucks. The fine hand of Paul Ryan, on the Board of Directors of Fox News, is operating in the background in a constant anti-Trump mode and barely any hosts on Fox shows speak much at all about Trump now. They are afraid to verbally support Trump as they know which side their bread is buttered on now.
The kicker here is that DeSantis wouldn’t even be Governor of Florida without Trump having come to his rescue in DeSantis’ first run for Governor. He only won by a very small amount of votes against a Black socialist Dem activist. It was Trump’s backing and appearances on DeSantis’ behalf, and his wholehearted endorsement of Ron DeSantis that pulled him over the finish line. That election was a real squeaker. No one knew who Ron DeSantis was to speak of, and without Trump he wouldn’t now be Gov of FL.
As a thank you for his very existence as Gov, DeSantis now appears poised to run against the very man who facilitated his being Gov. Such a very nice thank you, and the fact that DeSantis is taking money, advice and endorsements from anti-Trumpers; sworn enemies of Trump, in particular Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, the Murdochs, turncoat establishment type globalist money men, and Karl Rove, etc., sickens me.
I love what DeSantis has been doing for FL; he is a great Governor, and I had high hopes he would win in 2028 after a 2nd term of Donald Trump as President. And thus extend a Republican hold on the executive branch of office for years to come. What I was not expecting was that he would turn on his main election supporter and run against Trump in this presidential primary. Too much of a dog that bites the hand that feeds his face for me to stomach, especially in light of those characters that are backing DeSantis and urging him to run.
I’m afraid DeSantis is succumbing to the siren song of the RINO establishment in their great desire to eliminate Trump from winning to the point that they side with the socialist Dems in order to get rid of him. So much for loyalty. If DeSantis runs against Trump he will lose and will alienate Trump’s large, vocal and loyal MAGA base, who will then turn on DeSantis were he to run again in 2028, which he would for sure.
Be careful, Gov DeSantis; I like you, lots of Pubs do, but not at the expense of attempting to win against President Donald Trump who had the 2020 presidential election stolen from him, and who knows where all the bodies lie in the Deep State Swamp. I for one want revenge against the corrupt Biden regime and his minions.
DeSantis doesn’t have that motive, and will thus do much less, perhaps nothing to clean out the corrupt scum that have tried to ruin Trump, his family, his Presidency, and who would love to see him jailed for life. I want revenge as it is a political war folks, pure and simple.
I believe only Trump can right the multitude of wrongs committed against all conservatives and save our Country from further abuse. DeSantis does not have that great incentive if he were to win this time around. He would have to start from square one in office against the Swamp, the Dems would viciously attack him also were he to win, and he wouldn’t know whom to go after in order to clean house.
I have doubts whether DeSantis would pursue it, as the backers he would be beholden to, could care less if Trump would get any satisfaction for what has been done to him. It was an ideological palace coup, and we had all better know what we are up against or we are politically doomed to eventual slavery in a socialist, or worse communist country.
We aren’t that far away from this. We are already living the beginnings of a true nightmare. Not the current WOKE up, folks; WAKE UP before it’s too late.
I haven’t watched Fox News or any other since the beginning of the pandemic. I don’t miss it.
DeSantis’s record in Florida speaks for itself.
There are plenty of fake conservatives like Liz Cheney or Bill Kristol who won’t support Trump or DeSantis for ideological reasons, but there are also a lot of people in the GOP that we mutually despise like Paul Ryan who don’t like Trump for largely superficial/personality reasons and see DeSantis as a guy who would give us all of the upside of Trump without the fact that he turns off more voters with his personality and style than he turns on. It’s stupid that that doesn’t matter, but it does.
I’m supporting to DeSantis because he’s the most proven conservative leader that has the best chance to win. I’m ready to end this nightmare, and I’d like a president who could defend the seat 4 years later.
There’s also a not so insignificant chance that Trump will be arrested or at least dogged by court hearings by the time the election is here. It’s not fair. The way to prevent this would be for red state AG’s to start arresting former Democrat presidents on scurrilous charges, but good luck with that.
There are a lot of J6 protesters getting railroaded that Trump could have saved with a pardon before he left office, but he didn’t to protect his political future. So, I’m not particularly sympathetic to his legal troubles, though I hate the idea of that the communists might get their long-awaited scalp.
See my #15.
With the Republican debacle of the mid terms the rank and file Dem automatons are now slightly more emboldened to record their support of Joe and then they can go back to sleep. So I believe not the absolute numbers but I think the rise in Dem support for Joe is plausible.
Is it possible that outside of the awakened opposition, in other words among what Rush called the “low info voters” that call themselves Republicans there is a trend of Trump fatigue? A drop off in declared Trump support is plausible but I can’t ascribe it exclusively to any one factor.
As an aside, remember his first State of the Union address? Even Van Jones complimented it. Of course much water over the dam since then. But it’d be interesting to see Trump return to that statesman persona and tacitly admit that although we all out here loved his street fighting, many others wish for more than that in their President. The opposition’s relentless attacks and trolling will not go away.
It’s a tough problem. Do we need a Trump 2.0? Or a bigger badder Trump 1.0?
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