DU lefties openly discussed overthrowing US gov if Kerry lost '04 election

During the 2004 presidential election, bloggers at the Democratic Underground actually discussed an "Islamic-Communistic" overthrow of the US Government if Kerry lost the election!

All of the following is from the website of the Democratic Underground. (a link to original source is included at the end)

This thread continued for THREE entire weeks before the moderator bogusly stepped in and put an end to it. As of Nov 6, 2006, the thread is still up on the Democratic Underground website. --LC (exposing_the_left)

Post from: Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #10 16. Yes, spread the word, even if you *didn't* read it, that there *will* be riots! Yes! Riots, and a whole lot more!..."

"if it is decided to fight, be prepared to fight, bring a backpack, entrenching tool, tent, and other equipment of an Infantrymen. You will need it for Bush and his supporters decides it is better to fight than to accept the will of the people, the fight to overthrow them will be a long fight."

1. Popular support, you must have the majority of the people on your side (i.e. Democracy, even the Communists and Islamics both try to show they have the Support of the Majority of the People),

2. Organization to perform the overthrow (This is why Madison wrote the First like he did, these are HOW you organize an opposition. Without the First it is hard to organize an opposition and any resistence organized in absence of the rights stated in the First tend to be as tyrannical as what you are opposing)

3. Weapons to push the issue if the leadership that is being overthrown tries to use force to stay in power. You have to be willing to answer force with force. Weapons do not overthrow a tyrant, weapons just protect the people who are overthrowing a tyrant."

"Now, you may say "Hay, you are talking about Islamic and/or Communists groups not 'Western Liberal resistence groups'". And you would be correct. As I said in the beginning the first step in a guerilla war against a tyrant is to first organize. The Islamic and Communists Groups were the best at organizing people. "Western Liberal Resistence Groups" were less effective in organizing resistence groups (And less liked by the CIA and KGB who tended to fund these groups, remember any war is expensive, money talks).

Furthermore since most Islamic and Communist groups tend to be the first groups outlawed they tend to go underground first. Once underground they start to organize and as other groups are outlawed those groups tend to join the opposition which tends to be either Islamic or Communistic. Once outlawed these groups also tend to be controlled by the most fanatic opponents of the Tyrants and these tend to be either Islamic or Communistic. Thus to oppose the Tyrants you have to support a side with enough discipline to get the job done and that tend to be Communist or Islamic."

"...Any weapons we resort to must be "real" weapons not pistols. i.e. Rifles and shotguns. Due to concerns of re-supply (you have to plan for a long battle) such weapons should be limited to very small number of different rounds. Generally restrict yourself to the following rounds:

5.56x 45 (.223 Remington) 7.62x 63 (30-06) 7.62x 51 (.308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO) 7.62 x 39 (7.62mm Russian 7.62 AK Round) 12 Gauge Shotgun. 30-30 Winchester."

"You have more weapons in the above calibers than any other calibers thus should be your first choice in weapons. Saying this I must point out I like the 7x57 and 7.92x57 Mauser rounds and the M1898 Mauser Bolt action Rifle, but the 7.92 (sometime called 8mm Mauser) but these rounds are less common than the above and thus harder to obtain when re-supply is needed (and re-supply will be needed if the struggle lasts for any length of time).

Re-supply of Ammunition has always been the bane of any military operations. Without ammunition you can not fight. To get you ammunition, it is easier if we can keep the number of different rounds to a minimum (i.e. 5.56x45 and 7.62x51). I list the 30-06 and 30-30 winchester rounds for these are two VERY popular rounds and ammunition for both are easy to obtain (the same with the 12 Gauge shotgun). I list the 7.62 AK round do to the huge number of SKSs and AKs imported since the fall of the Soviet Union. I list it for while there are probably more 30-30s and 30-06 rifles out they than 7.62 Aks and SKSs, the Aks and SKSs may very while outnumber the rifles in 5.56x45 and 7.62 NATO.

Also, if it is decided to fight, be prepared to fight, bring a backpack, entrenching tool, tent, and other equipment of an Infantrymen. You will need it for Bush and his supporters decides it is better to fight than to accept the will of the people, the fight to overthrow them will be a long fight."

-- end of excerpts...but many other just as crazy like-minded thoughts found at the following link. This thread continued for THREE entire weeks before the moderator bogusly stepped in and put an end to it. As of Nov 6, 2006, the thread is still up on the Democratic Underground website.

Democratic Underground Discussion Board Topic: "Arming the Left: Is the time now?" : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x41313

(use this link if long one above breaks up) Democratic Underground discussion board: http://tinyurl.com/6whgg

"Lori Price CLG (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-22-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #10 16. Yes, spread the word, even if you *didn't* read it, that there *will* be riots! Yes! Riots, and a whole lot more!..."

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...it takes three things to overthrow a tyrant. Wrong, dipstick. First, you need a tyrant.

Good point...

Part of the problem Conservatives have in dealing with liberals, is that we often forget to rigorously apply logic to their basic premises.

We let them build a fortress on top of a faulty or false premise, and when the fortress is attacked, it is much more difficult to tear it down.

There are a lot of life lessons there, that is for sure.

And after their victory, the commies and islamics would have killed each other.
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No, I'm certain one of them would succeed in killing the others. I'd put my money on the islamics.

But they both would have killed the DUmmies before then.

And I will never collect on my bet because they would have killed me before the DUmmies.

But enough of Bizzaroworld. Back to reality.

These DU nutjobs are openly discussing and advocating a violent overthrow of the U.S. Government.

That would be conspiracy to violently overthrow the U.S. Government. Even if you do nothing but discuss/advocate a violent overthrow of the Government, it is still a crime, I believe.

exposing_the_left, have you ever thought of turning in these nutjobs to the feds and let the feds determine whether a crime may have been committed and get these potentially dangerous individuals off the streets. Below is the link to the FBI "Tips and Public Leads" Website, where you can submit a tip:

https://tips.fbi.gov/

Or, you can go to their tips website via the main FBI website if you prefer:

http://www.fbi.gov/

Uh.....ever been to DUmmies.com? The bravest thing they've ever done is pop a pimple.

Actually, I posted there, to the infamous thread about backyard testing with a rabbit cage proving that the steel in WTC had not "melted". (No one who knows what the hell he is talking about said it "melted", melting is when thermodynamic energy is greater than bonding energy. It went into "yield" when tensile strength@temperature is less than applied load. I did not point this out on DU.)

I was very respectful and polite, but said I didn't think the clown (not the word I used) had not really validated his model very well, that perhaps he did not completely understand strength of materials, thermodynamics and structural engineering.

I also pointed out the normal human tendency to accept evidence that confirms what we wish to think and reject evidence that refutes it.

For some reason, I was banned.

Courage aside, fanaticism can blind people to dangers. Fanatics aren't so much brave as deluded.

It would be the shortest and most uneventful civil war on record. Once these geniuses figure out how to crawl over the mountain of empty pizza boxes in their parent's garage (where so many of these boobs have a room), they can use those same boxes to make barricades. After donning their fashionable Che t-shirts and taking a few bong hits, these idiots will be ready to order more pizzas and continue building their barricades. Once the cops arrive and begin arresting the spoiled little dufuses for littering, they will start shreiking about Ashcroft's Gestapo tactics and then whine for their Daddy's slip and fall attorney. Not much of a revolution.

You know, just a few minutes ago, I briefly looked at Democratic Underground for the first time. Deeply traumatic experience. I didn't post a comment or anything, but just looking at all the deeply hateful and bigoted venom that they spew was revolting, especially how deeply anti- Christian 95% of them seem to be. Plus, they don't even have any kind of 'Search' feature on their site, so it's not only a vicious, bigoted site, it's also a poorly put-together site.
Then, I read this post.
My thoughts were, "Holy crap." These guys are completely insane. In addition, they also seem to be pretty stupid. They seem to think if they carried out a psychotic revolution like this, the only opposition they'd face would be from the police/National Guard/U.S. military. They probably are too stoned to realize that if they should go ahead with it, millions of conservative citizens interested in protecting their homeland and preserving law and order would almost certainly stand against them, too. That would be a fun sight to see, a bunch of whiny libs/ anarchists wearing protest shirts or Guy Fawkes masks trying to take over the government by force, but getting their scrawny butts handed to them by Freeper resistance.

--Actually, I posted there, to the infamous thread about backyard testing with a rabbit cage proving that the steel in WTC had not "melted".--

Was the rabbit still inside? These morons must be exposed to PETA!

Ya know, you can't invent stuff like this. Softer than a week-old grape under cushions on granma's couch.

If that's not conclusive scientific evidence that Cheney engineered 9/11, then what good is science?

DU lefties openly discussed overthrowing US gov if Kerry lost '04 election
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I note that after Kerry did lose they actually did squat about this for two years.

Oh well, they're DUmmies. It would be a miracle if they actually did something besides whine.

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