Why Giuliani Will Not Be a Nominee

Dakota Voice ^ | 5/15/07 | Rev. Rob Schenck

[Man50D]

Unfortunately, she's willing to put some of them aside for the sake of electing someone who will be take-charge tough on terrorism.

He may not be as tough against terrorism as you think. The passage below is one example.

* "Giuliani Resigned From Iraq Study Group, Didn’t Show For Meetings. Rudy Giuliani resigned from the Iraq Study Group in May of 2006, then criticized its findings. When he quit, he said he didn’t have the time. Moreover, according to Newsday, “It’s not clear that he attended a single meeting. Two of the group’s top advisers said they didn’t even know he had been a member".” [Washington Post, 6/1/06, 12/19/06; Newsday (New York), 11/17/06]

He also supports amnesty for illegal aliens. Any number of them could be terrorists posing as illegals as we witnessed last week in New Jersey.

[Jim Noble]

Simply put, Jesus prefers an abject sinner to an equivocator.

What state is He registered in?

[Man50D]

"STOP RUDY 2008 PING!”

"You can also call your ping “The ELECT-HILLARY Ping”


You are voting for a socialist regardless of which one you choose.

[Politicalmom]

You just keep deluding yourself.

“In general election matchups, Democratic New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is essentially even with Giuliani and the top Republican noncandidate, Fred Thompson, Rasmussen reported.”

[Reagan Man]

Since 1976 in the immediate aftermath of the SCOTUS decision to rewrite the Constitution and "make" law in the case of Roe v Wade, the two major political parties in America have taken very different positions in their platforms. The Democrats have chosen to be the party of choice, supporting abortion on demand. The Republicans became the pro-life party, respecting the life of the unborn. This gave Americans two distinct options to express their beliefs on the abortion issue.

Rudy Giuliani wants to take the GOP away from its recent historic roots as the pro-life party and force a change that will remake the GOP into a political entity no different then what the Democrats stand for. Lets work to make sure Giuliani comes out on the short end of this campaign for the GOP nomination.

[Inquisitive1]

What really amazes me is how little the candidates know of Roe v. Wade.

Not being a real legal-beagle, if what you say is true then a lot of the blame rests on all conservative shoulders.

[Neidermeyer]

The only times I’ve seen anyone create and stand by such a distorted/convoluted and irrational stance as Rudy has been in the last month or so it’s been due to something about themselves or someone they are very close to that they need to quiet their conscience about.

You can still sell Giuliani and McVain on tradesports (rep nominee contract ending 08/31/2007) for about USD 27 or USD 28 ... an excellent short position ... sell them both ..

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[Reagan Man]

This is a conservative forum.

With an attitude like yours, maybe you’re on the wrong political forum. Around FR we don’t support any liberal -— Rooty, Hillary, Obama. NONE!

A vote for Rudy Giuliani is a vote for liberalism.

[Theodore R.]

I was talking to a man in AR last week, and he said that tens of thousands of Republicans in AR are for the Clintons and always have been. We do have wolves in sheep’s clothing. Man in AR will vote Clinton just because the name is connected with AR. I guess PA people voted for Buchanan in 1856 for the same reason.

[Theodore R.]

Most Americans “think” that if Roe were overturned, the court would stop all abortions dead in their tracks immediately. You can’t explain some things to the American people — their mind is already made up. One cannot even explain the difference between “impeachment” and “conviction” to most Americans.

[Theodore R.]

Giuliani could “run” on a prolife platform. Wasn’t the 1976 platform also prolife even though the presidential candidate was a longterm abortion booster, perhaps because of his wife? And McClellan ran on a “war-is-a-failure” platform in 1864, but he disagreed with his own party’s plank.

[Theodore R.]

Still though many “conservatives” do vote for liberals — like the two liberal senators in ND, WI, and WV, for instance. Many “conservatives” don’t understand “conservatism”.

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, one in particular. Most of the rest had some sort of adherence to the moral/religious law.

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, one in particular. Most of the rest had some sort of adherence to the moral/religious law.

[mkjessup]

Back during the Clinton administration, she and I agreed that character counts.
If Rudy's character is better than the Clintons, the distinction is marginal at best.

Rudy Giuliani said that Bill Clinton is a 'good and decent man' in his comments following Bob Dole's defeat in '96.

I think that speaks volumes.

[mkjessup]

Giuliani could “run” on a prolife platform. Wasn’t the 1976 platform also prolife even though the presidential candidate was a longterm abortion booster, perhaps because of his wife? And McClellan ran on a “war-is-a-failure” platform in 1864, but he disagreed with his own party’s plank.

You may recall that both candidates you cite ended up losing.

[mkjessup]

He [Giuliani] also supports amnesty for illegal aliens. Any number of them could be terrorists posing as illegals as we witnessed last week in New Jersey.

It was due to Giuliani's lax enforcement of immigration laws in NYC that allowed some of the actual 9/11 hijackers to work and prepare for their attacks right there in Brooklyn.

[mkjessup]

Simply put, Jesus prefers an abject sinner to an equivocator.
What state is He registered in?

The state of Eternity. Hope to see you there.

[Coleus]

Giuliani: No Abortion Litmus Test: "it's best to allow for choice [abortion]"

Giuliani stands up for abortion rights [and gay "rights," gun control]
Giuliani Plans to Publicly Embrace Abortion Rights [Rudy declares war on conservatism]

The Rudy Giuliani Truth File in his own words and deeds
JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
Giuliani Takes On G.O.P. Orthodoxy on Social Issues
Giuliani admits pro-choice views - RINOS: the reign of social conservatives is coming to an end

Rudy Giuliani Continues Slide in Polls As Abortion Criticism Increases

Giuliani admits pro-choice views - RINOS: the reign of social conservatives is coming to an end
Giuliani Reaffirms Pro-Choice Stance
Giuliani reaffirms abortion rights (stick a fork in him, he's done)

Giuliani's Abortion 'Gaffe' [Charles Krauthammer]

Giuliani and Abortion [pro-life movement has no choice but to oppose his nomination]

[onja]

I will just (try to) briefly say something. There are many issues being debated among the candidates. Some are higher in importance to some individuals than other issues. While I am personally very pro-life, I would put other stuff ahead of it. So, I may support McCain or Guiliani, but still be a conservative. Just because a person doesn’t place quite the same importance on some issues doesn’t mean that he is a liberal. Not only is it presumptuous to claim that only your group represents conservative values, it also stirs angers and disunity. Why don’t we stop cutting each other’s throats over relatively trivial matters and focus on the overreaching enemies?