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Why is the Media Silent on the Obama Birth Certificate Question?
Cross Action News ^ | 12-01-08 | Rev. Michael Bresciani

Posted on 12/01/2008 9:00:22 AM PST by Victory111

Why has every major news source in the United States almost totally blacked out all reference to the Hawaiian Obama birth certificate controversy?

In layman’s terms the mainstream media may be afraid of showing up with egg on its face. Yet, the question about the allegedly fraudulent COLB (certificate of live birth) doesn’t want to go away. It is more than simple curiosity that is driving the quest; it is a strong desire for the truth and the hope of avoiding a constitutional crisis that would be unparalleled in our entire history as a nation.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; stbc
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To: Bobkk47

I realise that, but they may still have them if required. Does anyone know if he has one?


21 posted on 12/01/2008 9:26:11 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Victory111
Okay I relate this to the recently reported (here) national civics test. In that the general public scored 49 percent, and elected officials scored worse at 44 percent. And if I had to guess I beat the average journalism major would score in the 30's, and the average mainstream media person same or even lower.

Dismal, abysmal, know-nothings.

Yet where do Freepers score? We had a thread where people reported their scores -- vanity distorts that self-reporting for sure, but I'm guessing based on my long experiences here and from that thread -- Freepers would score on average in the mid 80's to mid-90's.

That is,

  1. WE ARE THE ONES WHO KNOW THINGS.

  2. The Media, the elected officials -- they are incredibly ignorant.
It is their shame and envy, of we Freepers and allied intellectuals and patriots, that keeps them quiet, for even ignorance does not keep a man silent when an obvious question keeps arising again and again.

Shame of their ignorance and envy of ours. Yet we are more than happy on our parts to share what we know, we wich none to be bogged down in the swamps of ignorance.

Their ignorance is willful, so thus their shames and envies -- they will come to demand that we be removed, all our words, all our speech, rather than that our hard earned wisdoms be ever seen or heard.

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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/25/AR2008112502104_pf.html

Voters Fail the Test

Out of 2,500 American quiz-takers, including college students, elected officials and other randomly selected citizens, nearly 1,800 flunked a 33-question test on basic civics. In fact, elected officials scored slightly lower than the general public with an average score of 44 percent compared to 49 percent.

Only 0.8 percent of all test-takers scored an "A."

That "0.8 percent" is we Freepers, imo. We are the intellectual vanguard of America and the World.
22 posted on 12/01/2008 9:29:53 AM PST by bvw
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To: ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; Nancee; Marysecretary; montag813; ncfool; David; ...

Ping!!!


23 posted on 12/01/2008 9:32:14 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Victory111
Why is the Media Silent on the Obama Birth Certificate Question?

Because if they did their job and reported the news, then people would know about it, and that would be bad.

24 posted on 12/01/2008 9:32:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: cvq3842

“The fact that they are not doing so may indicate that they are not 100% sure that the issue is a non-starter.”

If it was not a non-starter, Obama would have produced a birth certificate, instead of racking of $100Ks in legal fees.

Hmmm, let’s see: (1) $12 fee to the clerk of Hawaii and putting nasty rumors to rest or (2) spending a couple of million and creating nasty rumors?

It’s a no-brainer, unless there is something to hide.


25 posted on 12/01/2008 9:38:22 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware of Obama's Reichstag Fire; Don't permit him to seize emergency powers.)
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To: Savage Beast
The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

Great, so the kids of illegal aliens can run for President then.

26 posted on 12/01/2008 9:47:48 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Victory111

You cant get to Leos blog page anymore for an update...GOOGLE has removed it completely...The socialist, obamanites and the MSM must be besides themself.


27 posted on 12/01/2008 9:57:58 AM PST by Reflex (SSCDD (same socialist crapola different day))
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To: Savage Beast
The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.,/i>

Uh, no chance in Hell. The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution, and that is exacty what it would take for this to ever happen.

28 posted on 12/01/2008 10:00:53 AM PST by Polarik
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To: Victory111; LucyT; Mr. Silverback; pissant; bert
The way this poseur, Barack Hussein Obama--if that is in fact the legal name--is handling this issue of his place of birth/naturalization is most telling of the man's contempt for the Constitution and what he will place ahead of the nation. Obama comes first in his calculus, and somewhere down the list of priorities is 'the nation's interests'.

All of his life has been a latter-day affirmative action lesson. His promotion on several levels has followed the fading model of affirmative action, allowing him to manipulate 'the system' for his own promotion. He has now sealed his records at all levels, to prevent revelation of his manipulating the system as he so chose, taking advantage of lax authentication especially where a 'black' person seeking affirmative action was relevant.

Two or three incidents in his life will illustrate the machinations: 1) Obama has sealed from the public his transcripts from High School AND from college at all levels, which effectively also hide from view the name(s) he used and nationalities he claimed to apply for various college entries and programs such as funding assistance;

2) When Obama was a college student, he traveled on a visa to Pakistan; such travel was restricted for American citizens but was open to Indonesians; since Obama was an Indonesian citizen of record for his schooling while his adopting father Mister Soetoro registered him for schooling there, Obama could have applied for and held an Indonesian passport but has sealed that record from scrutiny, for obvious reasons;

3) All through Obama's primary and election process, when a question of Obama's associations and past were cited for query, the David Axelrod method for dealing with any controversy was to layer lies on the issue that obfuscated the truth: such as the claim that in 20 years of sitting in Wright's church Obama never heard the man malign America, or the absurd lies told regarding William Ayers, beginning with Axelrod's idiocy--savored by the sycophantic media and repeated by such leftist fools as Mara Liasson on Hume's FOX program--of 'perhaps Obama and Ayers met casually at school functions since their children attended the same schools'!

Of course none of these deceptions would work for more than a week if it were not for the fifth column enemy of We The People--the media bastards propagandizing for their Marxist messiah--avoiding airing any of the controversies with even a modicum of objectivity, and in fact spewing the layered lies for the campaign and the handlers. But then, the media showed they relish a well placed lie more than the truth, with the eight years of constant lies from bill 'sinkEmperor' clinton, the media's dead-soul hero.

Sean Hannity has stated that this election was the year journalism died in America. More accurate would be the observation that this election was the point at which the socialist media went finally over to the dark side, transmogrifying themselves from faultering fourth estate to active fifth column enemy of We The People. [Imagine a Calvin and Hobbs transmogrification of a mailman into a monster stalking Spaceman Spiff ...] But then, Sean is more of a gentleman than I am, so he would never state it that way.

Obama's way of dealing with these controversies regarding his past and his identity prove he cares not a whit for the Constitution or the People who have sought to allow him to ascend into the applied for affirmative action position.

Obama is a wicked man, as he proved in dealing with the issue of born alive infants in Illinois ... he actively sought to cancel their Constitutional rights which incur to them upon being born alive in this nation, in order to protect the murder of these newest citizens via purposed neglect.

Obama was actively protecting a murder methodology being used in the SOuth-side Chicago abortuaries where a majority of the childrne killed are black children. Yet black people never heard this truth about Obama because the fifth column enemy actively withheld it from the people, selecting what truths about this wicked man they would report.

A fading affirmative action hire of a questionable candidate for the position applied for would not be creating a Constitutional crisis if one of two things were in order: either We The People shut up and sit down while this fraudulent candidate ignores the Constitutional requirements for the applied for position, or the once honorable fourth estate would report the full truth about this fraudulent poseur candidate so the people could makke an informed decision on this affirmative action applicant for president. The fifth column enemy of We The People is creating a very volatile scenario, perhaps aimed at extorting the affirmative action hire for their messiah. If bloody rioting comes, one can only hope the enemies of We The People--in the media--are expunged/destroyed in the process. [http://porchmaunderings.blogspot.com]

29 posted on 12/01/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: cvq3842
The fact that they are not doing so may indicate that they are not 100% sure that the issue is a non-starter.

I'm pretty sure the MSM know it's a "starter" and they are avoiding it at all cost. If they ignore it, they can keep it as fringe. If they thought there was nothing to it, they'd be mocking us for being lunatics.

Rush, Hannity, etal either have gotten word from above to keep quiet or they are frightened to death of the Fairness Doctrine, or both. Too bad they put their careers above country.

The GOP may be keeping quiet because they know McCain would also be disqualified. Somehow I think if McCain had been elected, there would be just as many suits to disqualify him.

30 posted on 12/01/2008 10:08:50 AM PST by christie
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To: Savage Beast
I think that this is how this problem should be and will be resolved: The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

I have read at another thread that he may not be the biological son of Stanley Dunham. If he is not, he would not be a U. S. citizen regardless of the COLB or BC.

31 posted on 12/01/2008 10:12:00 AM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: MHGinTN

great post


32 posted on 12/01/2008 10:14:26 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: Polarik

“The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.,/i>
Uh, no chance in Hell. The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution, and that is exacty what it would take for this to ever happen.”

Correct. If this issue is not settled before Hussein is sworn in, Barry will be subject to criminal charges...on a number of laws.

As a side note, thank you Polarik for your expertise in helping to expose this fraud.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 10:18:55 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: MHGinTN; Victory111; LucyT; Mr. Silverback; pissant; bert

My method of battle - Conservative pop-rock songs.

My offer still stands: email me at chris@patriotmusiconline.com for a free mp3 of the Obama-eligibility song “Where Were You Born?” You can listen via livestream at www.patriotmusiconline.com. It is critical that we get this information out there into the mainstream...I figured after the election i’d have to think CREATIVELY to find a way to help.

Free Republic is the best clearinghouse on the planet for intelligent discussion- Do any of you guys have better ideas for how i can disseminate this song? I’ve had exposure on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show, along with a program called “Captain’s America” (Matt Bruce). I’m trying to connect with some of the bigger bloggers out there, but no luck so far...


34 posted on 12/01/2008 10:20:25 AM PST by mills044 (Spread the truth via music! www.patriotmusiconline.com)
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To: stuartcr; Bobkk47

Before becoming Senator, The One has never, AFAIK, held a job that required a security clearance. He got access to whatever classified materials were necessary for his job as a Senator, but that did not involve any kind of background check.

The man is a bit of a cypher, to put it mildly.


35 posted on 12/01/2008 10:22:25 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: MHGinTN; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; Polarik; ...

Thank you, MHGinTn.

Ping to #29

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2140861/posts?page=29#29

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Check out #22 on this page, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2140861/posts?page=22#22

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Comment #143:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2140760/posts?page=143#143


36 posted on 12/01/2008 10:23:49 AM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: Polarik
The Supreme Court cannot amend the Constitution...

Unfortunately, the SCOTUS has in fact amended the Constitution by its decisions quite a number of times during the past 100 years without explicitly stating so. The net result has been an ever growing and powerful government and ever diminishing civil liberties for the private citzen and the private sector.

37 posted on 12/01/2008 10:24:27 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Victory111

The Chicago Tribune has a great ad that addresses Obama’s probable fraud re being a viable candidate re his citizenship.

This is the search link in Yahoo. Easy to use and easy to “light up links”.

Please bump, ping and email this to your friends.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&p=Chicago%20Tribune%20Ad%20demands%20Obama%20prove%20citizenship&type=


38 posted on 12/01/2008 10:26:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (This is the link to Leo Donofrio's new website: http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com)
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To: bvw

I’d be confident that Obama voters averaged even lower on that national civics test than the general public’s pathetic score. Democrats aren’t called Dummycrats without reason.


39 posted on 12/01/2008 10:30:11 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Savage Beast
I think that this is how this problem should be and will be resolved: The Supreme Court will accept the case and will rule that the child of any U.S. citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of where in the world he or she is born.

Rep. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” This national law does not endow upon any person allegiance through birth alone as was the custom under the old English common law practice but only recognizes citizenship of those born to parents who do not owe allegiance to another nation. In other words, national law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nation’s citizens.

Secretary of State Bayard ruled under Section 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes in 1885 that although Richard Greisser was born in the United States, his father at the time of his birth was a subject of Germany, and thus, Richard Greisser could not be a citizen of the United States. Furthermore, it was held his father was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment.

The constitutional requirement for the President of the United States to be a natural-born citizen had one purpose according to St. George Tucker:

That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to he dreaded more than the plague. The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom. … The title of king, prince, emperor, or czar, without the smallest addition to his powers, would have rendered him a member of the fraternity of crowned heads: their common cause has more than once threatened the desolation of Europe. To have added a member to this sacred family in America, would have invited and perpetuated among us all the evils of Pandora’s Box.

Additionally, Charles Pinckney in 1800 said the presidential eligibility clause was designed “to insure … attachment to the country.”

What better way to insure attachment to the country then to require the President to have inherited his American citizenship through his American father and not through a foreign father. Any child can be born anywhere in the country and removed by their father to be raised in his native country. The risks would be for the child the return in later life to reside in this country bringing with him foreign influences and intrigues.

Therefore, we can say with confidence that a natural-born citizen of the United States means those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to father’s who are themselves citizens of the United States. A person who had been born under a double allegiance cannot be said to be a natural-born citizen of the United States because such status is not recognized (only in fiction of law). A child born to an American mother and alien father could be said to be a citizen of the United States by some affirmative act of law but never entitled to be a natural-born citizen because through laws of nature the child inherits the condition of their father.

40 posted on 12/01/2008 10:31:21 AM PST by danamco
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