Skip to comments.Plainsradio looking at protest AT US Supreme Court and its looking VERY MUCH like Thursday Dec 4!
Posted on 12/01/2008 10:48:17 PM PST by BonRad
I just listened to the plainsradio Dec 1 broadcast! Thanx STARWISE for the bigtime tip http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141126/posts Leo Donofrio & Cort Wrotnowski on Plains Radio Network Now - 6PM CST and the below poster:
To: All Leo Donofrio is back on Plains Radio Network now live: http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html 125 posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 11:02:24 PM by Deepest End ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." - Thomas Paine)
What I heard ended just before midnight EST here straight off the listen live button so I take it this was 1st or 2nd replay . I scrolled quickly though the comments. Posts creep over into Dec 2 here and see no new threads. This needs a new one IMHO. I am not speaking out of turn. I have the time here and think this must be posted clearly. Its taken me almost 90 minutes to compose this and no one, it seems as I check, is covering this on very latest thread(s).
I came into the broadcast as Donofrio was citing the emphasis on BOIIs dual citizenship AT BIRTH given papaBO was, as Kenya, a Brit. He and Thunder got into it pretty good on what be the case if papaBO wasnt the papa. Donofrion insisted the case remains as BOII hasnt offered (effectively-not quoting) an alternative, has been holding as he has from birth thru election, so it cant effect case ( I think this was his thrust- the specific unsupplemented case- it got quite heated here). Thunder (somewhat?) relented and said he was testing LD as contrarian in prep for what may be coming.
IT SEEMS CORTS REBUFF DUE TO THIS SEND-OFF OF HIS FEDEX TO ANTHRAX LAB HAS GOTTEN DONOFRIO, HALE AND THUNDER ON THE SAME PAGE- THAT AS MANY AS POSSIBLE (probably at this point-theyre sleeping on it) SHOULD GET TO DC THIS WEEK TO PROTEST ACTIONS OF THE CLERKS- SPECFICIALLY KEEP PROTEST TO THE MATTERS OF THE CLERKS. HALE AND THUNDER SAID THERE THAT THEY COULD GET THOUSANDS!! Donofrio emphasized it MUST be about McCains ineligibility as well as BO (inferring this cannot be a remove Obama protest).
THESE TWO TEXANS HALE AND THUNDER (and as Thunder says hes got Indian blood in him too!) said they were able to get a thousand or so to the LA Times in 36 hr notice. I take it this was the protest just before the election on the non-release of the video tape of BHO dinner toasting Khalidi. The four will be talking Tues Dec 2 AM on appropriateness and timing of A PUBLIC PROTEST IN FRONT OF THE US SUPREME COURT.
It sounded like, from a Donofrio weak speculation that was really a suggestion, THURSDAY DEC 4 would be something to talk about.
Thunder said in there to Leo that Thunder has made many, many, MANY new friends on this and that Leo would be VERY surprised at some who were supportive of the matter!! Hale said that many were CHOMPING AT THE BIT to do something and this could be it.
After the others were off, Hale made a simple but rousing call to the listeners to book flights and get there. He didnt fail to say as he was signing off itll be: Goodbye Obama.
I only wish I could go and meet some of these and you fine people. I simply cant go. What patriots these people are! God Help them and protect them in this most noble cause. May this come about, dear Lord, and may it transpire as You Will, through the intercession of The Blessed Virgin Mary under the title of Immaculate Conception, so especially given as protectoress of our nation, which deserves nothing given what has taken place.
ON ANOTHER NOTE- Didnt anyone hear the RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW TODAY Dec 1 Monday? Substitute anchor Marc Davis let in a couple callers toward end. MD called it at outset with each caller (with a pregnant cynical sigh): that pesky birth certificate thing. You can bet there are many calls in on this the screeners just deal with as they do. Rush got NUMEROUS emails on it the week before the election and said so the Friday before it.
First caller did a very good job. Bob the Drafter paced himself well and said bit and got MDs serious-enough attention, though it was finally a this isnt going anywhere conclusion by MD twice, and especially at end. Bob actually mentioned he had spoken by phone to Andy Martin. I cant recall all of Bobs main points but he was on probably 3-5 minutes. He cited Berg and Donofrio definitely and I think a NY case and maybe Keyes. Just cant recall, I was driving. I think Bob got in a complaint about cancelled efforts (like Berg, Martin) over improper standing. Bob was able to get MD to concede it all could be true but MDs responses were very deft study in ignorance of case. MD was had a very odd kind of fence-sitting poise with feet firmly on the no way side. He did say either to this caller or next- well then youd have President Joe Biden! MD seemed to be taking the stance that once Bam Bam was in that was about it. Dont quote me but he did wax and wane a bit about such lack of precedence so as to be a murky swamp that would be a long lawyers feast.
Another caller came in, a young fellow on something-or-other (sorry I was in a bit of shock). Then he did field another call with a very few minutes left from a middle aged woman. I cant recall her thrust or opening. This was a very short call, no more than 2 minutes and ended the show here Monday Dec 1.
He did cite to second caller the 20th Amendment Sec 3 then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified, though MD didnt quite get 1st part of this correct (he left out at least elect), he was AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT VERSED ENOUGH TO CITE WHAT HE DID.
This caught the woman off guard! She did an audible ooohhh and said something to effect: oh, I hadnt got to that! Neither he nor she were able to cite back the very next logical thing which was 12th Amendment and relation between a stymied Electoral College triggering throwing election to the House of Representatives into March 4! AMAZING! If the woman got this far how did she miss this?
MD said like a confident school principal looking down and giving a friendly shove(again not exact) this just wasnt going anywhere, save all the keystrokes and go read a good book in a nice place.
Take what you will but Ive tried to say before on this board Rush is NOT disparaging of the matter (so he sounded that final pre-election Friday at the outset of the show) and I dont know Davis from a hole in the wall (though Ive heard him sub before).
For your ping lists
Sorry deepest end, as it was your thread there. I got ref from STARWISE. Anyways thanks to both of you.
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Here’s a working link to DeepestEnd’s thread.
That’s the show I heard,,,
Neither Rush or the rest of national talk radio will
Moon Griffon has been all over it for nearly a week,,,
I see that O’Bammy didn’t show up with his BC today,,,
He must be Speeeeshull!!!...
It’s so good to see FR manners instilled in n00bs.
I don’t know when I’m ever going to catch up.
In this case, I don’t think it was a matter of manners. He seemed to want to ping the FReepers he was talking to, but hadn’t yet figured out how. It’s refreshing to see a n00b who has manners, and tries to play by the rules here.
Oh, and as far as catching up, good luck with that. I don’t expect to ever catch up. I’m just hoping to pick up enough scraps to have a clue what’s going on. Darn 3D world keeps interfering with my FReeptime.
Thanx, will listen...
but I’m really thinking the Titular Head of American Conservatism is NOT disparaging....
for what its worth. Was that one little entry that heavy Friday after he’d a week before, been more dismissive calling it a Dem problem.
Remember too Rush went at the Vince Foster case while most sat on their hands.
Davis is far more cynical than Rush. The screeners must have have wanted to approach the subject...
All you need is four Justices to agree to take the case.
I trust that the Four Good Conservative Justices will do what is correct but I am not sure many here will be happy about their decision.
I was shocked to be told that my petitions and all other petitions had been taken off site to be inspected for Anthrax and that they will not be brought back to the court to be docketed for two or three more days.
Two or Three days!!! I am trying to get action before the election tomorrow. My petitions cannot wait two or three days.
I am enraged. If I had known this, I would have taken the train to Washington DC and delivered my petitions for certiorari personally. Then, there would have been no delay for Anthrax inspection.
Why is there a two or three day delay for Anthrax inspection anyway? Why can�ft they just open the package, check it for Anthrax and deliver it back to the court an hour or two later?
Is Anthrax really such a problem that all court cases have to be slowed down because of this?
I demand a Congressional investigation of this.
November 1, 2004
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Dear Associate Justice ______:
If the Constitution doesn't mean precisely what it says, then America is no longer a nation under the rule of law.
A nation no longer under the rule of law is, by definition, under the rule of men.
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution clearly stipulates "No person except a natural born Citizen" shall be eligible to serve as president of the United States. That statement has clear meaning, and the Supreme Court of the United States is one of the controlling legal authorities in ensuring that the Constitution is enforced even if doing so may prove awkward.
With the Electoral College set to make its determination Dec. 15 that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. be the next president of the United States, the Supreme Court is holding a conference Friday to review a case challenging his eligibility for the office based on Article 2, Section 1.
I urge you to take this matter most seriously and judge it only on the clear, unambiguous words of the Constitution: A president must, at the very least, be a "natural born citizen" of the United States.
If you agree that this clear constitutional requirement still matters, the Supreme Court must use its authority to establish, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. qualifies for the office under that standard.
There is grave, widespread and rapidly growing concern throughout the American public that this constitutional requirement is being overlooked and enforcement neglected by state and federal election authorities. It's up to the Supreme Court to dispel all doubt that America's next president is truly a natural born citizen of the United States.
I urge you to honor the Constitution in this matter and uphold the public trust.
Obama isn’t taking unscreened questions in his press conferences. He is likely scared to death that someone will ask him to show his birth certificate.
Thanks for starting the thread, BonRad. I heard it all also and sent a note to some to tune in to listen last night. I need to learn how to make a ping list, but sure many Freepers were sleeping during the news break last night on PlainsRadio.
Can’t imagine the media ignoring this any longer, but sure they will try to. Spreading the word! :)
Thanks for the ping. Will check it out ASAP.
Somebody needs to drive Cort’s case from CT to SCOTUS in DC this morning. Cort should have gone to Kinko’s last night and Plains Radio and others should have tried to find someone who could drive it to SCOTUS today. It is a lot to ask but it is important.
Bump for Hope — for Change.
Not a lot to ask. It’s six hours from Hartford to D.C. Interstate all the way.
Well 12 hours total but it is very important to get Cort’s docs there ASAP. Leo was trying to the cases together.
The clerks at SCOTUS are causing trouble.
Problem is, Biden is worse than Obama.
But then Biden knows we won’t go away!
Not really. And in any case, that's not our problem. We simply cannot sit by and see a Muslim/Communist who may not even be an American, let alone a natural born American, take his throne in the White House because he thinks he's the Muslim Messiah, the Last Imam.
Biden is a loon, but he's also a big-time screwup. He would soon run off the rails and lose his control over congress, IMHO.
I thought Harry Reid said we will not have to deal with BO anymore????
Unless this is an extraordinarily large protest it will go unnoticed
And that's hogwash. McCain IS eligible. BHO is not.
If McCain is eligible, why didn’t he bring up Obama’s ineligibility during the campaign?
Thanks for the ping!!
bonrad you point out the host cited Amendment XX Section 3:
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Obviously the host is up to speed on the rules of the game and only assumes a snide, cynical attitude because of headache or gas.
Cort got his papers delivered in person today and his case is on the docket for Justice Scalia! Great News!!
I’m not sure what Donofrio intends, but it does no harm to ask that ALL the candidates should produce their proofs of natural born citizenship. If McCain qualifies, then fine, no harm done.
As I understand it, McCain was not born in the Canal Zone, but over the border in a hospital in Panama proper. In the circumstances that may not disqualify him, but there’s no harm in asking the Court to vet all the candidates and declare which of them are disqualified.
Exactly! Does anyone wonder why McCain did not bring up Obama’s qualifications during the campaign? Maybe it was because he knew he also did not meet the standards of being a “natural born” citizen. Who knows. But the Constitution must be upheld!
Both of McCain’s parents were American citizens. Bambi’s dad was Kenyan and his mother was loose.
I wonder is Mel Martinez quitting is remotely connected to this.
“I wonder is Mel Martinez quitting is remotely connected to this.”
First I heard. Please explain. When did he announce he was quitting??? Thanks!
You are absolutely right.
I shouldn’t have phrased it that way.
It is, indeed, refreshing to see a n00b with manners.
As for catching up, I hope to be able to grasp the most important facts.
This is the most wonderful time of the year, but it leaves little time for FR!
Thank you for that info and the ping!
I learned something new today.
I’m glad to see there are such provisions.
WELCOME to Free Republic, BonRad!
It’s very refreshing to see new folks who are polite - others have told you that already, but praise needs second helpings.
DEAR LORD, GOD,
PLEASE LET THERE BE; LORD CAUSE THERE TO BE
A MASSIVE TURNOUT OF ALL PATRIOTS AND AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANS DEMONSTRATING VIGOROUSLY BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT AGAINST OTHUGA AND HIS ILLEGAL RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE, IN JESUS’ NAME.
like Thusday Dec 4: Now being called Rally or Vigil and being set for Friday Dec 5
(trying to ping all obvious FR ID’s on the thread)
I am listening here Tues Dec 2 to plainsradio (Joe Thunder show) I believe live / real time (thanks again ping from STARWISE) here nearing 10:30 PM EST and typing thru broadcast. Approaching 11:00 PM here EST Donofrio leaves conversation as Hale announces news break. Show ends.
Thunder says he will have something on the plainsradio .com site before night out and will doubtless have link to
as he basically states assembly will be under auspices of Freedom March.
Earlier, Dr. Orly (Taitz-lawyer on the CA Keyes case) and Donofrio on w/ Joe Thunder. THURDAY OBVIOUSLY NOT COMING OFF AS A DATE FOR ASSEMBLY as original impetus was Cort Wrotnowskis filing to Scalia passing to the delaying anthrax test. CW drove from Connecticut very early this AM to hand deliver, as many of you know and has been posted as thread here on Free Republic.com Donofrio has on wordpress site the 2:44PM update: Corts docket has been updated at SCOTUS.
The application has been refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia. Apparently CWs action can be included in LDs supplemental filing to include same. Though I missed outset of broadcast, I take it the chicanery of the clerks has not panned out. As I recall even there he experienced severe docketing problems at hands of insipid or worse SCOTUS clerk(s). I take it LDs ref so previously filed with the Donofrio supplementary materials, which as many know can only contain materials referencing outside cases / motions (or laws / bylaws) filed after initial stay motion, remains validly tied to CWs motion, allowing potential wrapping by SCOTUS into one case, or at least providing further impetus to the LD case alone.
Donofrio says hes heard people are coming in Friday AM. SCOTUS opens at 8:30 AM. Donofrio urges no signs. Public recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and quiet. Thunder then says to Donofrio he means a vigil, to which Donofrio agrees.
Dr. Orly comes in to say signs are desireable given so many are ignorant of the matters and with potential of major media showing up, it would be best to have signs. Donofrio disagrees and continues with this plea for respect for the court. Just your reporter here .
I see a poster or two have stated that there are daily protests that are invariably ignored unless they be unusually large, Others have said faxing is inappropriate (for protocol reasons), as I think Donofrio initially was saying, but for reason of simply not lobbying the SCOTUS. I think (the broadcast has not been archived yet) LD has relented and agreed enthusiastically that this could be done. Dr. Orly was also urging faxing on her cases behalf to CA court- fax number is given FOR CA CASE 310-203-0567. I didnt take heading/title/address but you can find easily enough, I presume.
I still dont see anything at the Freedom March site 12:30AM EST Dec 3
BTW there are re-packages of Thunders plainaradio shows at:
Id like to steer to a great post
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