Skip to comments.BARACK HUSSEIN BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT FORGERY ...... THE FRAUD GOES ON
Posted on 03/22/2009 8:15:37 AM PDT by pissant
When I broke the explosive exclusive last June that Obama's COLB (certificate of live birth) was a "horrible forgery," it took a couple of days, but the O-bots sent around this "birth announcement". That too apparently was a forgery.
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Oh my GOSH!! This is the hang nail in this thing. That is what I get from libs “did they go back in time to put a birth announcement in the paper?”
Thanks pissant. You know I love ya!
Ping to the list my new listmaster!
Fonts and type styles did Dan Rather in... Let’s hope it does the same to The-0.
But it would be very relevant if the Obama announcement was fraudulent. I'm not sure where the images of the announcements come from. I would have thought from some years old microfilm someplace. But if not then that years-old microfilm if it exists might be interesting.
I’m not vouching for the relibaility of this analysis. But figgered I’d put it out there anyway.
I had to go through his explanation twice before I could see the alignment problem. If this is a forgery, it is “nearly” perfect.
I need a new roll of tinfoil. We’ve been saying for weeks that the birth announcements were forgeries because of missalignment, etc. And this is just now risen to the fore? ... God have mercy upon America.
The information is questionable if the neighbor is correct, but the misalignment is something that always struck me as odd. ESPECIALLY given in 1961 the newspaper wasn’t designed on computer, but on a typeset.
Can an expert on typeset tell me if you can misalign the columns that way? Because from my memory of it, it must be level all the way across, it’s not like you have the columns vertical and can make them not line up. In a typeset, the page is lined up all the way across, but the words were columnized.
I hope I am explaining that right.
I cannot but note that you see no problem if the announcements are forgeries. The fact that this pres__ent klown would have forgeries made to cover his tracks escapes you, apparently.
Agreed. These people will stop at nothing to protect their Marxist muslim brotha.
obama is a “horrible forgery” of a man.
Are these newspapers still in existance?
Can someone contact them directly to see if they can provide old copies?
Chin, eyebrows, ears and hair line, all more closely ressembel his white grandfather than any ginned up comparisons to Malcolm X or Barack senior.
What are you talking about? What is that site saying that makes Ann Dunham not his mother?
I agree. But there is NO resemblance between dumbo and Obama Sr.
While I agree that he resembles his white grandfather tremdously, he in no way resembles Barack Obama Sr.
I don’t know about the resemblance of Malcolm X, but I did notice that his timber is almost identical to Malcolm X. Go listen to him talk on youtube. If you close your eyes, you could almost hear Barack saying those things. Timber is heriditary (listen to Julian Lennon compared to his father)
How many people have their birth announcements in the paper the SAME DAY THEY WERE BORN?
Not sure why you are addressing this comment to me. Of course it is a problem (for Obama) if the announcements are forgeries. Do you have some difficulty with the English language?
Not many I’d think.
Oh wait, it didn’t come out the same day, the paper is dated August 13, 1961
There are some who say they were in Seattle at the same time. Don’t know though.
I am NOT saying he is X’s son. I’m just saying I do recognize a very very similiar voice.
0bama’s Valley Forge ping...
Put out the call for someone who might have saved that page for some reason. Maybe the other folks on that page saved it for their announcements.
The birth announcement appeared in “The Honolulu Advertiser” Sunday, August 13,1961 and in “The Star-Bulletin” Wednesday, August 16, 1961. One copy appears on microfiche while the other is on microfilm, but what people are failing to recognize is that the mere fact of filing a birth would generate a birth announcement, so Grandma Dunham, merely on her word could have registered the birth and the announcement could have appeared in both papers!
On the matter of Malcolm X, he was never in Seattle as I confirmed by going through the FBI surveillance files released under the FOIA for the years from 1958 through to early 1963. He went to a variety of places but never Seattle and the farthest west he went was LA after the violence there in ‘62, and he was in Chicago(headquarters for NOI) as well as St. Louis, Washington D.C. and NYC as well as his trip to the middle east with a stop in Ghana.
It would be very relevant if the announcements were forged, especially if recently forged.
But there is no valid evidence they were forged. I don't follow the Linotype argument either. I think the announcements are genuine. As for the money and the copy, my understanding is there wasn't any money, and the copy (or at least the data supporting it) flowed from the hospital directly to the newspapers. The process was automatic; the family did not need to be involved.
Of course, if the proud parents wanted a more prominent positioning of the announcement, they probably could have provided money and copy, as you did to the NYT. But that does not appear to be the case here.
Hey Chief. What is your source for those announcements being on Microfilm and or Microfiche? Feet on the ground say they weren’t. And I’ve posted showing they were forged.
Anyway, I called mother about this story and she (who I am ashamed to admit votes RAT) said it's possible to have the columns and rows at an angle only if someone took the time and effort to re-pour the spacers and to fill in the blank corners with lead. Everything is done by hand. Yes, it's possible if one wanted to emphasis something but would really serve no purpose in this instance. It was more expedient to never move the columns from issue to issue and you already knew which font to use for a particular section of the paper. Everything was at 90 degrees for a reason.
I would like to see other copies of the newspaper from the week before and the week after to see if there was similar goofs in other issues.
Where does your understanding come from?
>>>>On the matter of Malcolm X, he was never in Seattle as I confirmed by going through the FBI surveillance files released under the FOIA for the years from 1958 through to early 1963.
The FOIA papers has a section titled Seattle Washington.
This is an easy issue to resolve. There will be microfilm or microfiche copies of both Honolulu papers at one or more public or college libraries on Oahu and possibly some of the other islands in Hawaii. A quick trip to the library for any conservative in Hawaii could resolve that.
I’ve never put much stock in conspiracy theories and do not buy into the Obama ones. Nobody has proved he was not natural born, and until and unless that happens, we are stuck with him until January 20th, 2013. God help us all...
This is supposedly from that microfiche. I’m not putting too much stock into it. Seems to me a very limited analysis.
The Advertiser put out an article a while back with a ‘hyperlink’ to a PDF of the claimed Microfiche copy to prove the announcement was legit. This analysis Atlas Shrug is reporting on is based on the PI’s analysis of the claimed microfiche from the Advertiser.
I see Atlas Shrugs still has techdude’s suspicious BC analysis up too.
Thanks Chief. I wasn’t positive about any of it, just read rumors and speculation.
Hey, how’s your wife(?) or was it you that had surgery?
I think I missed the whole story on how TechDude was discredited.
He’s the one who claimed to have found Maya’s name hidden under Barry’s on the COLB. No one else, Polarik, Canon, the PUMAs could reproduce that. Then he just dropped out syaing he was getting threats.
Picture your old typewriter. If you were a secretary, you probably had your margins and tabs set and rarely moved them from one letter to the next. There would be no purpose of moving margins if all you did day in and day out was type the same basic form letter. It wasn’t until later that IBM came out with electric typewriters that with different cartriges or balls, you could change the font, but again if you were typing the same thing all the time (i.e. lists of births) why bother changing the font. Same with these old Linotype and print machines. They were bugger boos and though they were quicker there was still a lot that if you changed from the norm, you would have to stop and take the time to change it manually. If you wanted to change the width of a column you had to melt and pour a new spacer if you didn’t have that size already. They all worked within frames with 90 degree angles. Everything was lined up nice and neatly same as with a typewriter. If the corners weren’t 90 degrees you would have to manually take the time to fill in with lead to make them fit with the other sections of that page and then you would have to do everything by hand - take the letters and manually insert them rather than using the Linotype. That’s like using your typewriter to write the letter but then in the middle decided to leave a space and hand write a few lines. That makes no sense.
Fonts could be changed but as with a typewriter you have just so many letters that can be fit into the column. Same with a Linotype - see the word “line of type”. Birth announcements would be a menial job. You do the same thing in each edition. You know you have the 2 1/2 inches or whatever your paper has established as their column width and you stick to it issue after issue after issue. You know which font to use and you use only that font issue after issue after issue. Changing fonts in the middle would throw everything off.
I probably have missed vital points and haven’t explained things to apease the Linotype police, but this is the best I can do on the spur of the moment.
Accounts by the people who visited the libraries and viewed the microfilm or microfiche and also statements by folks from the newspapers as to how the announcements were handled back in the time frame in question.
I do remember that. But how was he discredited?
I don’t remember seeing statements from newspapers on how the announcements were handled. Do you have a link?
This is MrsChief, it is me that requires surgery that may be delayed if the fight with bureacracy isn’t successful. As I recuperated from a shattered upper right arm I read the rumors and tracked them down but my attention has been refocused lately on rules and regulations after a recent diagnosis of breast cancer.
Actually, I don't remember whether there were any official, first hand statements from the newspapers.
A little googling refreshes the memory. It was a Hillary supporter, Lori Starfelt, who found the birth announcements in the library. Here is her account, from last summer posted on Texas Darlin's blog (boldface added):
Hi, Ive talked to the Department of Vital Records and the Honolulu Advertiser.In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records - we know this because this particular section reflects those records. They didnt have a provision for paid, one sentence announcement that would be included in the Vital Records. At the time, if a child was born outside a hospital, the family would have 30 days to apply for a birth certificate and Vital Records would expect to see prenatal care records, or pediatrician records of the first check up, etc. Theyd also want the notarized statement from the mid-wife. Of course, they can apply later but that would noted as a different kind of birth certificate. I think TD has already addressed that. This information was received by Vital Records the first week of his birth = that suggests the hospital.
Next, the announcement is from Sunday, August 13th and Obama was born on Friday, August 4th. Hospitals usually dont take birth certificate information the first couple days to avoid changes. So it was likely filled out on the 4th or so, as hospital stays were usually 3 - 5 days at the time. Lastly, having worked in a newborn nursery in college, hospitals dont ask for documentation. If mom says shes married, thats what they write. They have no authority to question her statement.
In Honolulu at the time, paid birth announcements werent in vogue. Frequently families would post one year announcements that included pictures from the party, etc. I havent checked to see if that exists.
I hope that finishes clearing this up.
By the way, this is the PUMA Lori who found the announcement and forwarded it to me.
The Linotype argument had nothing to do with the certificate itself, it was with regard to the newspaper article(s) that are circulating as corroborating evidence. The argument runs that, since Barack's birth was announced in a local Hawaiian paper in 1961, he was probably born there as it would have been unlikely to impossible for it to have run otherwise. What this article is saying is that the announcement itself is a forgery and that no such announcement ran. Finally, the article concludes that if Obama and his minions would go to such extremes as forging a birth announcement, it is probably because he wasn't actually born there.
Frankly, I have not made up my mind yet as to what I think of the existence or non-existence of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate. The honest truth is that no answer would surprise me at this point. That Obama isn't a citizen and needs to hide it. That he is a citizen and wants to hide something embarrassing on his birth certificate (like listing his religion as Muslim, as some have indicated). Or that there is nothing whatever wrong with it and the man is just a first rate arrogant jerk who wants to flaunt the rules.
I do think, however, that the man should be required by either Congress or the Supreme Court, to prove his eligibility. If there is any question, then the candidate should be forced to prove eligibility. If Barack's downward slide continues and he is ineligible, it would not surprise me if the Democrats themselves force the skeleton out of his closet to silence him and put an end to the embarrassment. It seems unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. It would be perfect from the party's point of view: the king with the sword over his head.
Someday, the truth will come out. Whether it is tomorrow, three years, or three hundred, the cat will get out of the bag and I hope I am around to see it.
Oh my! You are definitely in my prayers!
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