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My Position on Obama Has Changed
From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 4/3/09 | Purple Mountains

Posted on 04/03/2009 3:56:04 AM PDT by PurpleMountains

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To: PurpleMountains
All you have to do to understand why Obama, or any generic affirmative action DemonRAT candidate has a built in advantage running for office is to listen to Sean Hannity’s man on the street interviews. The average “joe” or “jill” on the street embrace the idea that government should provide “cradle to grave” healthcare, child care, transportation, housing, and just about anything else that could be thought up. When asked about how the “from each according to their need, from each according to their ability” made sense, the majority thought that was great. Of course the reasons why people embrace Marxist ideology are probably varied, I believe the primary reason is twofold. First, we are seeing the results of five decades of social programming. From the education establishment, to Hollywood, and through government that embellish the ideas or moral relativism, collectivism, and a host of other subtle but insidious liberal dogma that promote the nonsense that all ideas and beliefs are equal, and that personal responsibility and ambition are, if not evil, at least suspicious.
Second, we have been living in the ever increasing era of “instant gratification” that predisposes people to succumb to schemes, scams and politicians that promise an easy or quick solution to all our needs.
The electorate is lazy, uneducated and impatient. Therefore they are easy pickings for smooth talking empty suits and their Communist puppet masters.
21 posted on 04/03/2009 5:03:28 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Mine has not.

Nor has mine. What took the author of this piece so long?

22 posted on 04/03/2009 5:08:20 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: longtermmemmory

To say he “fell for it” means that he was against it......


23 posted on 04/03/2009 5:08:26 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

The electorate that are shaping this country have no clue to the larger picture.

They are sustained by intravenously-fed, 24/7 entertainment yielding very successful dumbing down that is continuously primed by sugary “gimme” promises and class contempt by the manipulative left—and faddish pop culture messages of ‘sacrifice’ ( look for this to wear thin, the left leaning populace has not demonstrated the maturity or ability to really know what ‘sacrifice ‘ means-—it is today’s fashion trend led by the cult of Obama and is a flagrant and evil device to gain hearts and minds for social control).

While in parallel, the citizenry are “progressive” lemmings ( read: “I’m hip, see how enlightened I am?”....just like my favorite celebrities) in demonizing the responsible common sense, cause and effect fundamentals that represent ‘stodgy’ conservative ideals.

These victimized, indulged, childlike citizens are paving the way for us all to be dominated as pawns in the grand reframing of cooperative civilization, led by a few.

It is not a pretty picture. But they are vicious in their defense of Obama.

My previously intelligent cousin has been inoculated against reason with her rapt support of Obama, she will not tolerate ANY discussion that is not automatically positive about Obama. She throws her hands up, “Says I will NOT discuss THIS”...turns her back with an emotional shield that is cult-like.

Until the grisly outcome is set and done—and we’ve lost so much of what so many sacrificed for—and this cult-like, child-like populace begins to feels the discomfort of what they’ve ushered in—this direction will continue traction.

Ignorance is bliss. Pain must come before awareness. The pain will come.


24 posted on 04/03/2009 5:28:02 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Government of the riff-raff, by the riff-raff and for the riff-raff.”

My understanding is that the original, unamended Constitution specified that only landowners could vote. And it also said that only men could vote. Why the hell were these things changed?


25 posted on 04/03/2009 5:28:49 AM PDT by pelican001
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To: PurpleMountains

My position on the Kenyan usurper has never changed.


26 posted on 04/03/2009 5:35:52 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
“An electorate that elected and then reelected Bill Clinton and then eight years later elects Barack Obama has me worried.”

To win this fight you have to know the tactics of your enemy, and turn those tactics against them. The left has been very successful in characterizing Christians as self-righteous, unenlightened, hypocritical, flat-Earth types. They have been very successful in characterizing conservatives as poorly read, mean-spirited, selfish, non-'progressives’ who are responsible for the gun deaths in America, make the world hate us, and who are throwbacks to an earlier less enlightened time in history.

The terms of the argument need to be redefined. The democrats and liberals need to be characterized openly and repeatedly as naive, self-centered, narcissistic, totalitarian types who have outdated ideas and who are unenlightened and anti-progress. Alinsky’s rules support ridiculing your opponents publicly. The left has done this repeatedly (Palin, Bush, Quayle, etc.) The old money types on the right seem to feel it is undignified to get down in the trenches and fight the criticisms and ridicule thrown at them. I don't think that's a viable strategy when dealing with the left. I think the left needs to be counterpunched, each and every time they try their tactics.

The goal should be to make the words ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’

27 posted on 04/03/2009 5:35:56 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
. Miseducated and misinformed voters are the cancer on the body politic.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Marxism is our nation's most serious threat. Schools are the Marxists most important weapon.

Schools could also be the conservatives most important weapon. We must completely close down government K-12 schools, work to reform our colleges and universities, and open new conservative alternatives.

28 posted on 04/03/2009 5:43:28 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: pelican001
PM wants to swim in the clean end of pool.
29 posted on 04/03/2009 5:45:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: PurpleMountains
You're right, I've only read this article in full, and skimmed the headings on another one--being intrigued by your name until I recalled the likely source :-)

I'm more concerned about the "pre-emptive" surrender implied by readily agreeing to call some on the right "crazy" while not using the term of the left: because the MSM and others will draw the line defining "right wing" as "just to the right of Keith Olbermann"...

Thanks for the courteous reply, I'll call off the dogs...

Cheers!

30 posted on 04/03/2009 5:52:14 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: pelican001
Why the hell were these things changed?

Politicians coveted the votes of horoscope aficionados and American Idol fans.

31 posted on 04/03/2009 5:54:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The goal should be to make the words ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’

Ok, we've made the words, now what?

32 posted on 04/03/2009 5:56:31 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator
“Ok, we've made the words, now what?”

Sorry, forgot to delete that. I meant to say that we need to redefine those words such that they become generally derisive terms.

33 posted on 04/03/2009 6:04:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: cycle of discernment
Let's have a little Eric Hoffer on the subject, shall we?

"The urge to escape our real self is also an urge to escape the rational and the obvious. The refusal to see ourselves as we are develops a distaste for facts and cold logic. There is no hope for the frustrated in the realm of the actual and the possible. Salvation can come to them only from the miraculous, which seeps through a crack in the iron wall of inexorable reality. They ask to be deceived. What Stresemann said of the Germans is true of the frustrated in general: "[They] pray not only for [their] daily bread, but also for [their] daily illusion.".... They are easily persuaded and led

"Whenever we proclaim the uniqueness of a religion, a truth, a leader, a nation, a race, a part or a holy cause, we are also proclaiming our own uniqueness".

"Vehemence is the expression of a blind effort to support and uphold something that can never stand on its own... Whether it's our own meaningless self we are upholding, or some doctrine devoid of evidence, we can do it only in a frenzy of faith".

"We usually see only the things we are looking for — so much so that we sometimes see them where they are not".

"When our individual interests and prospects do not seem worth living for, we are in desperate need for something apart from us to live for. All forms of dedication, devotion, loyalty and self-surrender are in essence a desperate clinging to something which might give worth and meaning to our futile, spoiled lives"

"Failure in the management of practical affairs seems to be a qualification for success in the management of public affairs".

34 posted on 04/03/2009 6:23:13 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: pelican001
"clinton"

You're correct about Clinton. Deep down he was a liberal, but he governed as an opportunist. Bill Clinton was more interested in being prez than he was being a liberal or an ideologue. Towards that end he'd say or do anything that he viewed as politically expedient. Remember he did cut cap gains taxes, sign welfare reform, pass nafta, and a few other things true libs view as anathema. That's when he wasn't using up the WH interns for his fun times.

Obama, of course, is different. Obama is a committed leftist and will not cut taxes or pass welfare reform. In fact, he's trying to reinstall all the old welfare provisions. I'm not big fan of Slick Willy either, but compared to Obama, he looks positively Hayekian.

35 posted on 04/03/2009 6:26:38 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
"Hannity"

The first thing Hannity should ask these morons if they've ever heard of Marx or communism before he starts asking if they're heard the Marx slogan ("from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"). I've heard at least one the idiots he's interviewed say he never heard of Marx. Without mentioning the proper framework, just about anyone could agree with that phrase.

36 posted on 04/03/2009 6:31:51 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"words"

A number of people I know still use the word liberal to describe themselves politically and are not the least embarrassed about it. They do not use the word progressive, although that may come later. I've always been puzzled that libs don't like to be called libs. Conservatives have been disparaged for decades, but we proudly wear that label. Why libs would seek to call themselves by other names is something I find amusing. As if people won't eventually catch on to their calling themselves progressives.

37 posted on 04/03/2009 6:36:51 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: PurpleMountains

I personlaay do not care what an obama supporter or as they say, a former obama supporter thinks.

It is too late now. They stuk us with the bastard. Let them enjoy him. In fact, the only thing I despise more than ob ama. is the stupid idiots and parasites that inflicred him on me. I do not need or want their sympathy and as far as I am concerned , they can go straight to hell.


38 posted on 04/03/2009 6:41:56 AM PDT by sport
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To: pelican001
www.alamo-girl.com

You need to spend some time reading before you make Clinton pronouncements.

39 posted on 04/03/2009 6:52:14 AM PDT by Stentor
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