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Is One Man-One Vote Becoming a Distant Memory?
IBD/The Lid ^ | 6/3/09 | The Lid

Posted on 06/03/2009 7:05:01 PM PDT by Shellybenoit

One of the most sacred rights and responsibilities of American citizenship is voting. We are supposedly guaranteed that every person's vote is worth as much as every other person's vote. That guarantee has never been perfect, Blacks weren't allowed to vote until the 15th amendment in 1870, and women until 1920's 19th Amendment, but the tradition of the United States has been to aspire toward honest elections.

This past election America took a major step backwards, ACORN, perpetuated voter fraud in at least 14 states to the point where some districts had MORE than 100% of registered voters casting ballots. Ultimately this probably had little effect on the national results. But the fact that it was wide-spread enough to cause concern was enough to erode confidence in the system

This week the Department of Justice made two politically motivated decisions that further eroded the value of each of our votes, one in Georgia the other in Philadelphia (see videos below):

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: acorn; aliens; justicedept; voting
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1 posted on 06/03/2009 7:05:02 PM PDT by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

It is now “Dead Man - One Vote”


2 posted on 06/03/2009 7:06:21 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Shellybenoit

“some districts had MORE than 100% of registered voters casting ballots.”

Got references? I’d love to use this but can’t without attribution.


3 posted on 06/03/2009 7:07:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Why? The Left makes up lies all the time, and it’s gotten this far (near total power). No one (the people) cares about the truth anymore.


4 posted on 06/03/2009 7:12:52 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Shellybenoit

It will be a long time before we have a legitimate election, if indeed we ever do again.

My contempt for the left is beyond expansive.


5 posted on 06/03/2009 7:13:52 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DBrow

One person...one vote should have been scrapped decades ago. It doesn’t work. If you have no vested interest in the franchise except to get free handouts from it, you will not execute the franchise in the best interest of the republic. Many people lived in Rome. Few were citizens. To be a Roman Citizen was an honor and responsibility to be attained, not a birth right. The same was true in the founding days of this Republic. Land owners, men, the learned class were all considered to be fit to determine the course of the nation because (in sequence): 1. They had skin in the game with the land they owned. 2. They were thought (at the time) to be level headed, responsible for the survival of homesteads and educated (women were not educated in those days). 3. The learned class were more versed on the objectives, workings and processes of a state.

Do we really think, from this perspective that some crack ho in a section 8 apartment on 8 Mile Road in Detroit fits the bill of what Jefferson and Madison considered a well tailored and informed electorate whose every decision could well determine the survival of the sacred Republic? Hogwash.

Today, if we were fully honest, we would restrict citizenship on the voting level to those who pay taxes, own properties and businesses, have a certain level of education and have both passed a competency exam and taken a solemn oath to execute their franchise within a certain set of objectives. One person one vote sounds like Kumbayah. It makes me warm and fuzzy even as it puts a spear through the heart of the responsibly run Republic. One person one vote will be written about in a hundred years as an Achilles heal and scourge upon our great nation that midwifed her final days.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 7:15:21 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Shellybenoit

Not to worry.

Repubican moderation, non-confrontational speech and bi-partisan acceptance of Sotamayor will lead to greater acceptance for Republicanism and a better tomorrow for all Americans.

Get your government ration of KY Jelly now . . . or prepared to fight.


7 posted on 06/03/2009 7:19:01 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: Shellybenoit
I still say McCain would have won without voter fraud. The GOP is to blame. From 2000 to 2006 they could have passed stringent voterID laws for all federal elections. They didn't and we have reached the tipping point. Rahm emanuel and ACORN will see that the 2010 redistricting turns into a crushing defeat of the GOP.

It's over.

8 posted on 06/03/2009 7:20:26 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Sanford/Palin in 2012)
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To: Shellybenoit

A friend shared a funny, cynical quote on voting:

If voting worked, they’d ban it.

:)


9 posted on 06/03/2009 7:26:28 PM PDT by sig226 (1/21/13 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
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To: DBrow
Got references? I’d love to use this but can’t without attribution.

Many stories at the time. I remember at least one story about more than 100% of the estimated (by census) population, not just registered voters, voting.

10 posted on 06/03/2009 7:35:18 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Shellybenoit
The Justice Department has told Georgia that the state cannot impose its proof-of-citizenship requirements at the ballot box.

If I were the governor of Georgia I would tell the JD to pound sand. The courts have already ruled that Georgia's proof-of-citizenship is constitutional.

11 posted on 06/03/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: DBrow

Just start searching for voter fraud. The more heavily the percentage of Rats, the higher the fraud.


12 posted on 06/03/2009 7:57:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Fact is, if someone is counted in the census, they are represented in the state house and in the U.S. House. (Even if they don’t vote.)

So whoever does the census, determines the results of elections. Combine this with sophisticated techniques to determine district lines ...


13 posted on 06/03/2009 8:23:10 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Actually, whoever runs the state legislatures, determines the results of the elections.


14 posted on 06/03/2009 8:26:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

the census is going to count illegal aliens because they are considered “persons” as the Constitution sets forth. So that is why areas with heavy illegals are over-represented. Notice some state House seats in places like L.A. have very few voters. Therefore, these voters are over-represented ... the illegals have representation.

The only think it doesn’t affect is GOV and SEN races.


15 posted on 06/03/2009 8:30:31 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: TommyDale

wait tommy I am working on that story


16 posted on 06/03/2009 9:38:59 PM PDT by Shellybenoit (http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com)
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17 posted on 06/04/2009 3:44:08 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: DBrow

“some districts had MORE than 100% of registered voters casting ballots.”

Got references? I’d love to use this but can’t without attribution.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=more+voters+than+registered&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=more+voters+than+registered&aqi=&fp=1mZ_-PL2Zjc


18 posted on 06/04/2009 5:42:59 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: johnnycap; 4Liberty; elfman2; CSM; BradyLS; DoctorMichael; bruinbirdman; H.Akston; Ed Hudgins; ...
One person...one vote should have been scrapped decades ago. It doesn’t work. If you have no vested interest in the franchise except to get free handouts from it, you will not execute the franchise in the best interest of the republic. Many people lived in Rome. Few were citizens. To be a Roman Citizen was an honor and responsibility to be attained, not a birth right. The same was true in the founding days of this Republic. Land owners, men, the learned class were all considered to be fit to determine the course of the nation because (in sequence): 1. They had skin in the game with the land they owned. 2. They were thought (at the time) to be level headed, responsible for the survival of homesteads and educated (women were not educated in those days). 3. The learned class were more versed on the objectives, workings and processes of a state.

Do we really think, from this perspective that some crack ho in a section 8 apartment on 8 Mile Road in Detroit fits the bill of what Jefferson and Madison considered a well tailored and informed electorate whose every decision could well determine the survival of the sacred Republic? Hogwash.

Today, if we were fully honest, we would restrict citizenship on the voting level to those who pay taxes, own properties and businesses, have a certain level of education and have both passed a competency exam and taken a solemn oath to execute their franchise within a certain set of objectives. One person one vote sounds like Kumbayah. It makes me warm and fuzzy even as it puts a spear through the heart of the responsibly run Republic. One person one vote will be written about in a hundred years as an Achilles heal and scourge upon our great nation that midwifed her final days.

Nailed it.  Very well said.

19 posted on 06/04/2009 6:55:28 AM PDT by FreeKeys ("Those who cannot be bothered with the facts may help destroy the best medical care in the world" TS)
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To: FreeKeys

Outstanding!


20 posted on 06/04/2009 7:08:42 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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