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Reasons For Texas To Secede
TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 08/20/2009 | Lane Haley

Posted on 08/20/2009 6:05:37 AM PDT by Patriot1259

The United States Constitution guarantees us numerous rights and liberties, but the ones most essential and inalienable are those of life, liberty, and property. As I am writing this entry, there are scores of constitution maggots in DC working to erode those very rights which we hold dear. The finest examples of this are the two pieces of legislation currently awaiting a vote; cap-and-trade and health care.

These two pieces of legislation are heinous by design. Health care, simply put, gives the government command of every aspect of an individual’s life, effectively turning citizens into subjects. Once the government owns an individual’s health, the government owns the individual and every right guaranteed under the first 8 amendments of the US Constitution can be circumnavigated on the bases of public health and cost to the government. In fact, cap-and-trade can be implemented under the health-care bill as a means to provide a healthier, and thereby more cost effective, environment for the population. The health care bill decimates the constitution and our personal freedoms denying us of liberty and, in some cases, life.

Cap-and-Trade threatens to deny many of us property. Woven in the fabric of the bill is an energy policy defunct of logic. It allocates billions of dollars for, and prioritizes alternative energy sources whose technologies do not work, and which take enormous amounts of land in order to be even remotely viable.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: secede; secession; statesrights; texas; usoppression
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To: VRWCTexan

I’d welcome Oklahome but I’ll pass on the Chocolate City.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 7:13:06 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: dmz
What does it cost these days to convert your state to its own country?

Blood?

22 posted on 08/20/2009 7:29:39 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: central_va

“Blood”

Some things just don’t change, do they.


23 posted on 08/20/2009 7:49:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: broken_arrow1

If Texas ever actually does something like that, then I would imagine other states to follow too.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 7:50:15 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: ShadowAce

If they are passed.


25 posted on 08/20/2009 8:20:24 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

“If the USA goes Communist I will join him.”

You’re a little late there Screamin’. We’re just living under the illusion that this is a republic.


26 posted on 08/20/2009 8:22:31 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Bayou Dittohead

“TEX-LA-OK would be an energy rich nation.”

Can Colorado join? We’ve got this natural gas and oil-shale thingy going up here.


27 posted on 08/20/2009 8:25:08 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan

I would go to Texas as well if this happens. Even though I would be characterized as an illegal alien, I would work to earn my keep including joining the state’s national guard.


28 posted on 08/20/2009 8:58:12 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: dmz

But don’t forget to consider how much money is being taken FROM Texas by the feds in many forms such as income taxes, corporate taxes and many others that would no longer be leaving Texas. That money could be put to much better use if it were to stay in Texas. Also Texas would no longer be hobbled by federal regulations on offshore drilling etc.


29 posted on 08/20/2009 9:22:23 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: Texas Fossil

My ancestors immigrated to the Republic of Texas in 1840 from Prussia. Prior to Prussia they fled France because of religious persecution.


30 posted on 08/20/2009 9:26:04 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: rfreedom4u

Were they Jewish, Heugonot, or Menonite?

Most of my ancestors came to Texas during Reconstruction after the last Civil War. Some of my relatives were here during the Republic.

My family has farmed in Haskell county for over 110 years.

Texas has never had a history of religious intolerance, but it has a history of resisting oppression.


31 posted on 08/20/2009 9:39:47 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Patriot1259

I can’t imagine the Feds ever allowing any state to secede, but even if we did, the cities are infested with huge numbers of social parasites — what would we do about them?


32 posted on 08/20/2009 10:19:50 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism = organized crime)
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To: TexasRepublic
I can’t imagine the Feds ever allowing any state to secede, but even if we did, the cities are infested with huge numbers of social parasites — what would we do about them?

Be productive or be gone. Welfare to workfare.

Do acknowledge there are genuine needs for a temporary societal 'safety net'. But since the "Great Society' era, this safety net has evolved into a permanent entitlement hammock.

Societal parasites should be given a fair chance...to contribute to Texas's welfare, security, productivety. Notwithstanding that option..also have the option for a one-way transit to the US Obama state of their choosing.

33 posted on 08/20/2009 10:37:48 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: ShadowAce
No vote for them, but perhaps if we...(whatever)...it'll show we're more humanitarian than others think of us. These are people for goodness sake! We can't discriminate against them!

I was right!

34 posted on 08/20/2009 10:47:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: screaminsunshine

I meant to ping you to #34


35 posted on 08/20/2009 10:47:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Texas Fossil

Huegonots! Part of the family went to Colorado which is where I am currently stationed. We’ve had a long line of military members dating from prior to the War Between the States. Or as I recently learned, the War of Northern Aggression.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 11:50:20 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: rfreedom4u

I have no know Huguenot or French ancestry, but have been a history student most of my life.

There was an interesting history discussion about the French Huguenots posted on FR some months ago that you might enjoy reading. I posted several links that I found very interesting reads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2275536/posts?q=1&;page=51

see post 73 (and others)

Regards,

TF


37 posted on 08/20/2009 12:59:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
"I can’t imagine the Feds ever allowing any state to secede"

I know it sounds ridiculous but "Free men do not have to ask permission".

38 posted on 08/20/2009 1:04:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil
I know it sounds ridiculous but “Free men do not have to ask permission”.


Maybe not but are we really ‘free men’ ......... My guess is for Texas to even attempt to succeed in today's environment the people of the state would not vote in favor. JMO.

39 posted on 08/20/2009 1:08:35 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport

I am not for secession, but if put to a vote, I expect the percentage for it would astound you.

I have heard numbers between 25-55% kicked around. If Cap & Trade and the Obama Care pass, I would say it would pass in a Refferendum.

Texas will never be subjugated. Will not happen. Texas Nationalism is not dead, by a long shot.

No sane person wants War, but it sometimes is necessary and happens. You can never predict the outcome of things like this.


40 posted on 08/20/2009 1:17:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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