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Secessionist movement under way in Texas
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Posted on 08/28/2009 11:36:04 AM PDT by wk4bush2004

Fiercely independent and thoroughly horrified at the blatantly unconstitutional explosion of federal tyranny into every aspect of our lives, Texans are set to march on the state capitol in droves on Saturday. They will be delivering a million-strong petition to their elected officials based on the 10th Amendment, demanding an immediate constitutional confrontation with Washington.

If they are turned away or their concerns inadequately addressed, organizer Gerry Donaldson says they "will be forced to call for a vote for secession." This will not be the last time a state openly defies Obama's treasonous war on the Constitution.

Donaldson, who runs his own Internet radio show, says they are "calling for an orderly process that will allow our federal government to fall back in line with the Constitution." He continued, "Either we will restore America, we will live in a Marxist dictatorship, or we will secede and start over again."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dontmesswithtexas; rot; secede; secession; statesrights; texas; texassecession
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Obama needs to listen to WE, THE PEOPLE!!! If he doesn't, which is likely, then Texas will have a vote on secession.

I would support a Free Republic of Texas and I would move there, too. If Obama is going to rule us with a fascist hand, then we don't have to live under him!

I'm Moving to Texas If The State Secedes (Unless Alaska Does It First)

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=138468565072&ref=mf

1 posted on 08/28/2009 11:36:05 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004
Obama has winked and nodded at those in Hawaii seeking to secede. How will he react to such groups in Texas?
2 posted on 08/28/2009 11:37:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Kennedycare?Recall that "Animal Farm" begins with a Socialist Revolution to honor Big Major's legacy)
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To: wk4bush2004

If ObamaCare is passed, Texas may be the first in a series of states that man’s up and declares its independence.


3 posted on 08/28/2009 11:38:10 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: wk4bush2004

Ready and willing to move to, and if necessary, fight for [insert name of first state to secede].


4 posted on 08/28/2009 11:39:33 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: BertWheeler

Secession appears to be the most viable way to proceed.


5 posted on 08/28/2009 11:39:52 AM PDT by bIlluminati (The kingdom of heaven is among us.)
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To: wk4bush2004

“Dagnabbit! Them feds done gone too far for me and muh paw!”


6 posted on 08/28/2009 11:40:07 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Ping.


7 posted on 08/28/2009 11:41:37 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: BertWheeler

“If ObamaCare is passed, Texas may be the first in a series of states that man’s up and declares its independence”.

...or Cap & Trade or anything else that comes down the pike. Texas is pissed and they don’t do pissed well.


8 posted on 08/28/2009 11:42:41 AM PDT by albie
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To: bIlluminati

I hope it all works out in the end and ten years from now we have a very strong Republican majority. I would like to see lower taxes and less regulation and a turning back of the clock on healthcare - less govt involvement and a return of the country doctor.

Secession is tough stuff.


9 posted on 08/28/2009 11:44:35 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: wk4bush2004
If you're a Texan, and you favor secession, then I advise that you not recite the pledge of allegiance, because if that is your state of mind, then you are pledging a lie:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
10 posted on 08/28/2009 11:46:14 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: albie

I hope Florida joins Texas. But even the State Gov. needs to be cut to size. We have had Republican control for years and still the Gov is huge.


11 posted on 08/28/2009 11:48:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: wk4bush2004

Or Texas could exercise the authority in the Texas Annexation Resolution and form four more states, giving Texas eight more senators and thus, at least eight more electoral votes.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 11:48:20 AM PDT by mak5
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To: wk4bush2004

Secession actually makes much more sense than pursuing the birth certificate issue. BHO will never furnish it and a Democrat Congress will never impeach him much less open an inquiry on it.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 11:49:53 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: wk4bush2004

WE THE PEOPLE !! ..... ARE !!! THE OVER LORDS of the GOVERNMENT and not the other way around !!


14 posted on 08/28/2009 11:50:11 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Texan Tory
....and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

If the flag no longer represents a republic, or the Republic isn't the items listed in the pledge, then the whole thing is null and void anyway.

15 posted on 08/28/2009 11:50:44 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: albie

God Bless Texas!


16 posted on 08/28/2009 11:51:25 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: mak5

Or Texas could exercise the authority in the Texas Annexation Resolution and form four more states, giving Texas eight more senators and thus, at least eight more electoral votes.


How many of those eight do you think would be conservative or even members of the GOP?


17 posted on 08/28/2009 11:51:47 AM PDT by deport
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To: wk4bush2004

If Texas does this, count me in. I know most Texans don’t care for phony and superficial and wacky Californians, but I will earn my keep and join the Texas national guard. ANYTHING to be free of the Obama Nation.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 11:52:40 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Texan Tory

No, what I pledge that allegiance to is a Republic represented by the flag, a Republic that is one nation with 50 States that provides liberty and justice to all.

That is not Barack Obama’s United States of America, not by any measure.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 11:54:18 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: wk4bush2004
I would support a Free Republic of Texas and I would move there, too.

Me too. Immediately. (gotta buy up some houses before the flood!)

20 posted on 08/28/2009 11:55:13 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: BertWheeler

Lets hurry. We have crazy Franciscans coming into Texas in warp speed. I forsee a political sea change if we dont change soon.. (I know thats extreme, but almost everyone I know are transplants... and liberal ones)


21 posted on 08/28/2009 11:55:17 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: wk4bush2004
Texas will have a vote on secession.

That is nonsense.

22 posted on 08/28/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: The_Victor

“If the flag no longer represents a republic, or the Republic isn’t the items listed in the pledge, then the whole thing is null and void anyway.”

I simply see it differently than you, if things become as bad as you suggest they may, then I say we stand and fight to get our Republic back.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 11:57:20 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Texan Tory
"... United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands...

What if the federal government goes to such lengths that we are no longer a republic?

24 posted on 08/28/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: GoCards

“everyone I know are transplants... and liberal ones)”

Ah, so they flee the place they screwed up and then move to a place and then try to turn it into the dump they came from.

Liberalism is a disease; it’s pretty clear now.

We’ll all move to Texas and the liberals will be outnumbered and they can move back to the USSA.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 11:58:42 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!!!!! GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!)
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To: Texan Tory
and to the Republic for which it stands...
The Republic which the United States Flag stands for doesn't exist any more.
A democracy has subsumed it under false pretensions.
If you don't believe me then just ask almost any politician and they'll tell you directly, and unflinchingly, that America is a democracy.
26 posted on 08/28/2009 12:00:05 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: GoCards
Lets hurry. We have crazy Franciscans coming into Texas in warp speed. I forsee a political sea change if we dont change soon..

Too late. As it is right now, Texas is will be a Democratic State in 10 to 12 years as the state demographics are shifting under the weight of the current population.

27 posted on 08/28/2009 12:01:20 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: savedbygrace

Barack Obama’s America has a flag with 57 states!


28 posted on 08/28/2009 12:02:06 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: savedbygrace

“No, what I pledge that allegiance to is a Republic represented by the flag, a Republic that is one nation with 50 States that provides liberty and justice to all.

That is not Barack Obama’s United States of America, not by any measure.”

The United States of America is a resilient republic, I believe we will survive having Barack Obama as president (even if we don’t flourish while he is in office), just as we have survived many other disastrous times.


29 posted on 08/28/2009 12:03:59 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Enosh

“What if the federal government goes to such lengths that we are no longer a republic?”

Then we fight to get our republic back, that’s my plan anyway.


30 posted on 08/28/2009 12:05:47 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: wk4bush2004

moving back to texas to help


31 posted on 08/28/2009 12:09:32 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: wk4bush2004

Once Texas secedes and becomes its own nation, who will President Rick Perry go to when he needs to borrow 1.5 Billion Dollars?

“Texas may need to borrow $1.5 billion from feds”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2321501/posts


32 posted on 08/28/2009 12:10:20 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Texan Tory

If the dimrats actually followed the Constitution, then there wouldn’t be talk of seccesion. As for the plege being a lie, it would be if obama gets his way because the liberty and justice thing would be a thing of the past. He is acting more and more like a ruler than the President.


33 posted on 08/28/2009 12:13:25 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Texan Tory

I would fight against secession as well.


34 posted on 08/28/2009 12:14:28 PM PDT by Melas
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To: wk4bush2004
Back when Ann Richards was Governor, she was going to sign an EPA mandate which would have turned 1000’s of acres in West Texas into federally protected lands, making them worthless to the ranchers who owned them. 100’s if not 1000’s of ranchers and farmers and Texans showed up early in the morning and took up all of the parking spaces near the state capitol, eventually taking up all of the spaces in the city. Ann Richards suddenly decided that she didn't need to sign Gore's EPA directive. Politicians can sometimes get the message.
35 posted on 08/28/2009 12:14:29 PM PDT by wbarmy (Hard core, extremist, and right-wing is a little too mild for my tastes.)
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To: mak5

Myth, and unconsitutional at that. No state may be admitted to the union without the consent of congress. Furthermore, it doesn’t apply. Texas was re-admitted under reconstruction and that is the binding the agreement.


36 posted on 08/28/2009 12:15:54 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Texan Tory

I disagree.


37 posted on 08/28/2009 12:21:40 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: savedbygrace

“No, what I pledge that allegiance to is a Republic represented by the flag, a Republic that is one nation with 50 States that provides liberty and justice to all.

That is not Barack Obama’s United States of America, not by any measure.”

Please understand that I make my comments as no fan of this president, I could put together a very long list of grievances against him in short order. At the top of my list would be his deplorable treatment of our good ally Uribe in Columbia. Columbia is doing just about everything right in terms of being a true democratic republic, and yet our president treats them like crap while he wants to be great friends with idiots like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. And our president’s latest message to our good friends Poland and the Czech Republic is basically to tell them to drop dead, because we are now going to pull back on our promises to install missile defenses there. So I’m not at all happy with this president. Nevertheless, I maintain that the United States of America is stronger than Barack Obama, and we will survive him.


38 posted on 08/28/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: mak5
Or Texas could exercise the authority in the Texas Annexation Resolution and form four more states, giving Texas eight more senators and thus, at least eight more electoral votes.

Uh, no. Don't you remember a few years ago when the RATS threw a temper tantrum and ran off to hide in New Mexico over redistricting? First, they'd want one new state from the border counties which would then turn themselves over lock, stock, and barrel to some Mexican drug cartel. Next Sheila "Don't you know who I am" Jackson-Lee will demand her state be the biggest and have a plaque on the entrance gate with her name and picture on it. The third would be the libs in Austin with their state motto being "keep Austin weird" and move the capital to Hippy Hollow (nudist) and declare Lance Armstrong governor. The fourth state would be the rest of Texas. Hmmm, on second thought, that wouldn't be a bad idea after all!

39 posted on 08/28/2009 12:34:39 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Texan Tory
I simply see it differently than you, if things become as bad as you suggest they may, then I say we stand and fight to get our Republic back.

I didn't say I wouldn't fight, just that the pledge becomes meaningless if the things that the flag represents are not what the pledge says.

For the record, I haven't given up on the USA yet.

40 posted on 08/28/2009 12:35:29 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: wk4bush2004
Great talk, but nothing else. I won't believe it until I see a Concord or Lexington moment.
41 posted on 08/28/2009 12:42:06 PM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: deport

With our luck, Ma Richards would be Guvnah of ONE of those states. Kinky Friedman might be Guvnah of another one. Some BUSH or another might be in another, and before we know it we’re in a worse fix than before!


42 posted on 08/28/2009 12:43:13 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: The_Victor

“I didn’t say I wouldn’t fight, just that the pledge becomes meaningless if the things that the flag represents are not what the pledge says.

For the record, I haven’t given up on the USA yet.”

I don’t think you are I a too far apart on this. One thing I want to clarify, I’m in favor of fighting to save the republic in terms of working to make sure that rule of law and core principles are maintained, but I would not want to take up arms against any state that votes to secede.


43 posted on 08/28/2009 12:43:21 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Texan Tory

“I didn’t say I wouldn’t fight, just that the pledge becomes meaningless if the things that the flag represents are not what the pledge says.

For the record, I haven’t given up on the USA yet.”

I don’t think you and I are too far apart on this. One thing I want to clarify, I’m in favor of fighting to save the republic in terms of working to make sure that rule of law and core principles are maintained, but I would not want to take up arms against any state that votes to secede.

Fixed.


44 posted on 08/28/2009 12:45:34 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: mak5

“...Texas could exercise the authority in the Texas Annexation Resolution and form four more states...”

You’re referring to a Texas constitution that no longer exists. Reconstruction changed all that. And even that constitution put limits on exercizing this option, I believe. In addition, the federal constitution, of which Texas is a signitory, forbids any state from being formed out of another.

That said, hit the federales repeatedly in the head with the 10th amendment until it begins to sink in.


45 posted on 08/28/2009 12:47:14 PM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: wk4bush2004

And Obama and his co-conspirators would be saying “make my day!”

This would be all the emergency zero would need to shut down the internet, call in his in-house military,( just as big and just as well funded as the us military) and as Ayer’s people said, way back when, 25 million people might have to die in the US Communist revolution.

Don’t think these people haven’t thought ahead...they’ve planned this for decades.


46 posted on 08/28/2009 12:48:38 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: GoCards
"We have crazy Franciscans coming into Texas... "

Wasn't Friar Tuck a crazy Franciscan...?


47 posted on 08/28/2009 12:52:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: trumandogz
Once Texas secedes and becomes its own nation, who will President Rick Perry go to when he needs to borrow 1.5 Billion Dollars?

Simple ... al the $$ that gets forwarded to DC via withholding would get redirected to Austin.

48 posted on 08/28/2009 1:05:18 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The way to destroy a countercultural movement is to have white people start liking it.)
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To: Tucker39
With our luck, Ma Richards would be Guvnah of ONE of those states. Kinky Friedman might be Guvnah of another one. Some BUSH or another might be in another, and before we know it we’re in a worse fix than before!

Considering Anne Richards died in 2006, it might be tough for her to become governor. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. The dead voting in the dead hardly seems implausible these days.
49 posted on 08/28/2009 1:06:16 PM PDT by TexasAg
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To: trumandogz

If you could borrow the money interest free, would you?

That is what he did and there is a limit to how long they can borrow it, but it is interest free from a time.


50 posted on 08/28/2009 1:07:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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