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Comparing Tea Party 9/12/09 To Obama Inauguration Crowds
Strata-Sphere ^ | 9-13-09 | AJ Strata

Posted on 09/14/2009 9:38:02 AM PDT by STARWISE

I have been doing some research analyzing photos and crowd data to try and ascertain the crowd size of the 9/12/09 Tea Party protests (which I blogged on here). It seems the best, most recent reference point is President Obama’s inauguration, which was estimated at 1.8-2.0 million people.

If you look at the pictures from last January’s Inauguration it looks at first glance like the Obama crowds dwarfed the Tea Party crowds.

The Tea Party Crowds did not extend back the Washington Monument (there were other events on the Mall yesterday).

On the flip side, the inauguration is a controlled, seated event. It has a uniform density of people sitting in chairs spread out on the mall. Here is a map showing the areas and capacity of people for inaugurations using an aerial view of the Mall:

(Links to USA Today graphic - can't be posted here)

(H/T Moderate Middle) What is clear in the inauguration model is that people are restricted in their movements and are assigned locations with specific capacity numbers. Now look at the Tea Party Pics, especially around the reflecting pool which shows a capacity of 240,000 in the inauguration model.

These two great shots (from someone willing and able to climb a light pole) show how there is no consistent density as with the laid out seating of an inauguration. Moreover, if you look at the inauguration model, the crowd does not spill out into the streets on the side, up the hill on the sides, etc. It also doesn’t go under the trees on each side of the Mall. The Tea Party crowds were thick through all these areas.

In my opinion the crowd was over 1 million. Maybe well over 1 million. But it is hard to compare a crowd in evenly spaced seats in a much more restricted lay out to a crowd of varying density spilling out into every crevice and corner in front of the Capitol.

Given the high density and greater extent of taking over the open ground I think it is very possible the unadvertised Tea Party without any big name draws competed well with the largest inauguration crowd in recent memory.

It easily surpassed the inauguration crowds of all the other Presidents in recent memory. And that is saying something.

Update: Hopefully this answers Allah Pundit’s queries.

Update: Another good picture showing how the crowds are much more compact than during inaugurations:

Note how far people expanded left and right into the trees up to the Capitol building itself. I walked this part of the crowd and it was packed.

Update: This is a great collection of photos, and notice how dense the crowd is out into the distance of each and every one. It was a huge crowd. It was a respectful crowd. It was an intense crowd. The media and liberals can only down play this by denying the gathering storm is coming.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: 912teaparty; comparison; huge; inauguration
Go to article page for links.

Site with fantastic photos.

VIDEO - 9/12 Tea Party


1 posted on 09/14/2009 9:38:03 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


2 posted on 09/14/2009 9:39:04 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Awesome! Just awesome!


3 posted on 09/14/2009 9:42:31 AM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: STARWISE

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/conservative-patriots-v-government-trough-feeders/
This is a telling comparison...


4 posted on 09/14/2009 9:42:40 AM PDT by Requiem for Truth
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To: STARWISE

It would be interesting to compare pictures of the aftermath on the Mall after 9/12 to the aftermath of the coronation (oops, that would be inauguration).


5 posted on 09/14/2009 9:42:50 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Requiem for Truth

Thanks!


6 posted on 09/14/2009 9:43:59 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: tgusa
Check This out:

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/conservative-patriots-v-government-trough-feeders/
7 posted on 09/14/2009 9:50:01 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Requiem for Truth
One of the photos on your link is not from the 9/12 March. It is the aerial view showing the mall. Note that there are no people on the Capitol Lawn, the Tent near the Washington Monument is missing and there is a distinct shadow. Remember it was a very overcast day. This photo should be removed.
8 posted on 09/14/2009 9:52:56 AM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: STARWISE
Thank you. The Park Service gives 1.2 to 1.6, but only the Guardian in the UK is reporting that. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "A Million People Prove that NPR Doesn't Count"

"Ben Franklin was in D.C."

9 posted on 09/14/2009 9:53:05 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Tom Paine and the future of America: www.TheseAreTheTimes.us)
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~~PING!

Logical argument in the article regarding the controlled security situation for the crowds for the Immaculation vs the laxer security/open area infiltration by the masses.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 9:54:18 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Requiem for Truth
Too bad that picture of the 1997 Promise Keepers Stand In The Gap event keeps showing up without proper credit. If I recall, fly-overs are no longer allowed over Washington, except for Marine Corps One.
11 posted on 09/14/2009 9:54:43 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: tgusa

#4


12 posted on 09/14/2009 9:55:17 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Tks


13 posted on 09/14/2009 9:58:54 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: All

Update: Media credibility plunges to new low; Aerial Views added: D.C. Police close roads to buses, people on foot; estimate 1.2 million; ABC can’t count..912 – Party On Patriots!! (Video - with footage from MSNBC, CNN, AP)

http://moderateinthemiddle.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/update-media-credibility-plunges-to-new-low-aerial-views-added-d-c-police-close-roads-to-buses-people-on-foot-estimate-1-2-million-abc-cant-count-912-party-on-patriots/


14 posted on 09/14/2009 10:01:23 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

If you ask me, it looks like the Obamination Inauguration photo looks photoshopped with the front crowd being copied and pasted beyond the reflection pool all the way down the street.


15 posted on 09/14/2009 10:08:23 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: STARWISE

After the inaugeration, DC Metro put out ridership numbers for the day. Have we seen ridership numbers for Saturday yet?


16 posted on 09/14/2009 10:30:15 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: STARWISE

Very nice Starwise!


17 posted on 09/14/2009 10:59:51 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: tgusa; All

18 posted on 09/14/2009 11:05:26 AM PDT by potlatch
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks StarWise.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 11:47:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: potlatch

Pigs!


20 posted on 09/14/2009 2:27:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Bump that!


21 posted on 09/14/2009 5:51:06 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: STARWISE

Thanks so much for the ping to this. Bill O’Reilly pissed me off big time tonight saying that the crowd was about 75,000! He is such an idiot moron. He said he got his numbers from the DC fire department...lol. THE UNIONIONIZED(many in SEIU) FIRE DEPARTMENT!

His show is becoming impossible to watch. His researchers suck...lol!


22 posted on 09/14/2009 6:22:19 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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oops..’UNIONIZED’...my bad.


23 posted on 09/14/2009 6:23:07 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Oh, jeeze .. he thrives on being contrarian
and then creating scenarios that he makes
match his view.


24 posted on 09/14/2009 7:33:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Requiem for Truth

Yes, it is.


25 posted on 09/14/2009 7:35:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: STARWISE

I support the 9/12 Tea Party Patriots. To be fair to history, we have to stand for the truth. There is nothing to be ashamed of with the awesome turnout on 9/12/09. However, the actual truth in pictures shows that far more people were at President Obama’s inauguration back in January, then were at the 9/12 Tea Party march. The pictures below show more dense crowds at Obama’s inauguration, without cardboard signs etc which cause people to spread out more. Also, the crowds at the 9/12 event did not go past 3rd St, which were reserved for an annual “Black Reunion” that had setup the large white tents that you see in Tea party photos:

9/12 photo from Capitol steps:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3914298834_f23314cb42_b.jpg

Obama inauguration photo from Capitol steps:
http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4405_17676915.jpg

more photos of Obama inauguration showing massive density:
http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4402_17676747.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4403_17681689.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4420_17682573.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4417_17672257.jpg


26 posted on 09/14/2009 9:49:24 PM PDT by watchdoggity (WE HAVE TO BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE AND TRUTHFUL)
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To: penelopesire

I thought the DC fire dept said there were 60,000 on Pennsylvania Avenue alone...


27 posted on 09/20/2009 4:30:43 AM PDT by StarKing
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To: StarKing

Not sure about what the DC fire department said when.

What I am sure about is that BOR is an idiot blowhard. He keeps repeating his little ‘estimate’ in every discussion of the 912 march, even though it has been proven to be wildly off the mark. His researchers suck.


28 posted on 09/20/2009 4:46:57 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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