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If You Hate Obummer Read This Now...
Commodity News Center ^ | 10/8/09 | Casey Research

Posted on 10/08/2009 7:54:44 AM PDT by h20skier66

This without question is one of the most thought provoking articles I've ever read. After reading it I got the full article which is 17 pages in .pdf format and even more profound. (For the record I am in no way affiliated with Casey, David Galland, or Neil Howe). If you want to know whats happening with our country and how Obummer is able to manipulate, control, decieve, and cheat the American people this is for you.

Here's an excerpt:

A Casey Research interview with Neil Howe, co-author of The Fourth Turning

The Fourth Turning is an amazingly prescient book Neil Howe wrote with the late William Strauss in 1997. The work, which describes generational archetypes and the cyclical patterns created by these archetypes, has been an eye-opener to anyone able to entertain the notion that history may repeat itself. At the time the book was published, the Boston Globe stated, "If Howe and Strauss are right, they will take their place among the great American prophets."

DAVID GALLAND: Could you provide us a quick introduction to generational research?

NEIL HOWE: We think that generations move history along and prevent society from suffering too long under the excesses of any particular generation. Instead, every generation turns the corner and to some extent compensates for the excesses and mistakes of the midlife generation that is in charge when they come of age.

One example of the Hero archetype is the G.I. Generation, the soldiers of World War II, who became an institutional powerhouse after the war and then in old age confronted the young hippies and protesters of the 1960s. Going back in American history, we have seen many other Hero archetypes, for example the generation of Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison, and President Monroe.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; history; obama; policy; politics

1 posted on 10/08/2009 7:54:45 AM PDT by h20skier66
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To: Filo

Ping for later


2 posted on 10/08/2009 7:57:45 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: h20skier66

Nomad generation bump.


3 posted on 10/08/2009 8:07:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: h20skier66
I find their theories interesting. From what I see in this interview, and in other interviews with Howe, I believe they perceive Obama as part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.

Their way of looking at history is novel but I think some of their analysis is colored by a Progressive philosophy.

4 posted on 10/08/2009 8:08:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No kidding! Who knew? GEN X - Championed by 0bama - the Commie generation?!!!!! LOL!


5 posted on 10/08/2009 8:12:43 AM PDT by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I love how the democrats use the word "progressive."

Whenever the democrat party uses this term to describe something, I instantly think of Stalin's agents massaging the language in their communist newspapers.

Both the communists and democrat party are disgusting organizations, and they will never fool me.

6 posted on 10/08/2009 8:19:54 AM PDT by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: qam1

Over here


7 posted on 10/08/2009 8:24:00 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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To: Rightly Biased; qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; ...
Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

8 posted on 10/08/2009 8:31:23 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: h20skier66

The Boomer Generation goes from 1946 to 1964. So Obama isn’t a Gen X’er, he’s a Baby Boomer. Not to mention America’s first defacto social engineer potus. FDR and LBJ pale in comparison to Obama. As it is, the liberal elites from academia think they’ve struck nirvana.


9 posted on 10/08/2009 8:39:05 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

Interestingly, Sarah Palin is closer to Gen X than Obama based on birth year.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 8:42:27 AM PDT by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: GI Joe Fan
If you loved that, then check this out.

Progressive Christianity

We are surely in the end times and dealing with a really evil and wicked agenda.

11 posted on 10/08/2009 8:45:02 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I am particularly offended by this odious statement:

“It is true that the author of John’s gospel does place the following words in Jesus’ mouth: ‘I am the way, and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me’ (John 14:6) It is important to remember, however, that these words were written for a religious sect that was a persecuted minority cult, struggling for survival in the first century. Those same words, written with a specific purpose, would have had a very different feel for the first century Christian than they do in contemporary times. However, since the fourth century and the advent of ‘Christendom,’ these words and other quotations from the book of John have been used by the church and the state as a source of power and control through their exclusive nature. Christianity and ‘correct belief’ were the only way that one could find salvation. The church became the exclusive broker for tickets to heaven.”

The “author” of this text betrays that he/she/it doesn’t really believe Jesus said these words when he/she/it says they were written for a first century cult (as opposed to the truth, which is they were spoken to the world for all time). I would hate to hear their twisted view on Paul’s speech to the Athenians.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 9:11:59 AM PDT by naturalized
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One example of the Hero archetype is the G.I. Generation, the soldiers of World War II, who became an institutional powerhouse after the war and then in old age confronted the young hippies and protesters of the 1960s. Going back in American history, we have seen many other Hero archetypes, for example the generation of Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison, and President Monroe.
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13 posted on 10/08/2009 3:24:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“colored by a Progressive philosophy”

You mean they are communists too.


14 posted on 10/08/2009 3:28:56 PM PDT by stockpirate ("And if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine)
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To: h20skier66

Bump


15 posted on 10/08/2009 5:20:19 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: GI Joe Fan

“Progressive” is an old term used by the Left. During the Reagan years I had a neighbor who insisted that he was a progressive, not a liberal, as liberal wasn’t far enough left to describe him. He was a professor of political science at one of the California universities, and during Democrat administrations he would go on sabbatical in order to work in the government. Bureau of Land Management as I recall.


16 posted on 10/08/2009 6:56:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Amnesty for Illegals, a bipartisan goal of the Stupid Party and the Evil Party)
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To: Reagan Man

I prefer to give Obummer to Gen X. We Boomers get blamed for enough as it is.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 6:57:52 PM PDT by Pelham (Amnesty for Illegals, a bipartisan goal of the Stupid Party and the Evil Party)
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To: wafflehouse

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18 posted on 10/08/2009 7:48:53 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Reagan Man

The “1964” date has been heavily disputed and 1960/1961 is the “new” accepted time frame.

I was born 5 days before the Bastard In Chief and I am *definitely* a Gen Xer.

“Matsumoto, 31, and other members of Generation X — born roughly between 1961 and 1981 — have been hit by an economic double whammy. While much has been made of the plight of older baby boomers, in less than a decade many Gen Xers have taken a hard spill off the Internet wave and now have been knocked down again by an ugly recession, one of the worst on record.”

I am, however, married to a Baby Boomer [or War Child, as I call him since he was born in 1943]

We’re totally different animals.
He’s all about Elvis but I prefer Billy Idol, the *real* MTV and the Reagan Years.

[and I still wear my sunglasses at night]....:)


19 posted on 10/09/2009 1:15:17 AM PDT by Salamander ("All my toys are broken....and so am I, inside, Mom......")
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To: ClearCase_guy
I believe they perceive Obama as part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.

Well, and this has been discussed elsewhere - Beck for one, that Zer0 is part of the solution. Not because he's a good American (if he even is one), nor that he's a good POUTUS, or that his policies will help us.

No, No & NO!

Rather that, because of who and what he is, he has awakened the American People. If McCain and Sarah had been elected, would that have happened? Would I, and a friend of mine, joined a million of our fellow Americans in the 9/12 March on DC?

Nope. Probably not.

The wakeup call was long overdue. And oddly enough, Zer0 was the one who made it.

So in that light, and only in that light; Yes Zero is the solution. Now all we have to do is hold on for three more excruciating years, and pray we still have a country left to save.

20 posted on 10/09/2009 3:50:52 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm an argumentative type who enjoys having his positions and principals challenged. Feel free to fire away on this but I have a few thoughts to share...

One example of the Hero archetype is the G.I. Generation, the soldiers of World War II

The soldiers of WWII (not to mention the brave men and women of our armed forces overall) are certainly heros. I would never argue with that.

who became an institutional powerhouse after the war

To some extent - many more returned home, hid their scars, and continued as great people in their daily lives without the fanfare that some, particularly those that climbed into politcal office, strived for. Some of those that achieved politcal power lost, at least in my opinion, some of their hero status as they allowed socialism and facism- the things they sacrificed more than most people will ever know to stop, creep into our goverernment.

and then in old age confronted the young hippies and protesters of the 1960s.

Huh? No offense, but I have no clue where this assertion came from. How does an institutional powerhouse who apparently "confronted" whatever that means, let slide the initial series of attacks on the foundations of our nation?

Maybe they did and I missed it, but whatever the case, this institutional powerhouse allowed and or at least didn't have the power to stop massive expansions of government into our lives - driven primarily by the "hippies" this statement identifies.

My opinion is that this instituional powerhouse - as it ended up represented in our national leadership - gave ground and allowed a fledgling socialist movement to not only get a foothold on the social level, but within governmental institutions.

I don't know why, but have my opinons. Sick of fighting maybe? Desire to keep their political power? Inability to see subtle attacks on our nation after their more direct and immediate experiences? Not sure - probably a lot of factors.

What I do know now is that way too many of them (or at least their generation) now vote to make sure they get their piece of the handouts at the following generations expense.

I'll happily pay my share to support our vetrans.

I'll pay to settle up unwise promises (e.g., Social Security)

But when will the "archetypes" noted as the GI generation, and unfortunately this includes all those that weren't GIs, help me fix the mounting problems that at least "sneaked through" on their watch?

21 posted on 10/09/2009 5:00:05 PM PDT by !1776!
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