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To: Dr. Eckleburg; steve-b; Markos33; the_conscience; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; wmfights; ...
Because there is no such thing as a "conservative" Roman Catholic.

With no due respect, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I am proud to be a conservative Roman Catholic and there are many like me. Feel free to disagree with Catholics all you like but don't presume there aren't any conservative Catholics.

53 posted on 11/10/2009 3:06:38 PM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic; Dr. Eckleburg
I am proud to be a conservative Roman Catholic and there are many like me. Feel free to disagree with Catholics all you like but don't presume there aren't any conservative Catholics.

Feel free to disagree with the polls all you want, but don't presume conservative Catholics make up anything remotely close to a majority of professing Catholics in the world today - and don't assume that your Pope agrees with your politics.

...let me once again share the four-pronged typology that a veteran priest here in Washington, D.C., gave me a few years ago. There are, he said, four kinds of Catholics in this country and, thus, four “Catholic votes” on almost any issue. Any news report that lumps these groups together isn’t worth very much.

* Ex-Catholics. Solid for the Democrats. Cultural conservatives have no chance.

* Cultural Catholics who may go to church a few times a year. This may be one of those all-important “undecided voters” depending on what’s happening with the economy, foreign policy, etc. Leans to Democrats.

* Sunday-morning American Catholics. This voter is a regular in the pew and may even play some leadership role in the parish. This is the Catholic voter that is really up for grabs, the true swing voter that the candidates are after.

* The “sweats the details” Roman Catholic who goes to confession. Is active in the full sacramental life of the parish and almost always backs the Vatican, when it comes to matters of faith and practice. This is a very small slice of the American Catholic pie.

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57 posted on 11/10/2009 3:40:39 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: ikeonic
Is the first time you've met her?

Wow are you in for a treat!

Rhetoric and tactics right out of the Völkischer Beobacter, just substitute an anti-Catholic slur where Streicher would have put an anti-Semitic slur.

62 posted on 11/10/2009 4:11:34 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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