Skip to comments.The Election: Catholic Voters and Issues
Posted on 11/10/2006 11:59:23 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Exit polls indicate that a majority of Catholics voted Democratic on Nov. 7, helping the party to take control of the House of Representatives and possibly the Senate. According to The New Republic, 52 percent of Catholics voted Democratic, compared with 47 percent who voted Republican. George W. Bush won the Catholic vote in 2004 by the same margin.
The shift in the Catholic vote was evident in Ohio, where the Democratic gubernatorial winner, Ted Strickland, scored a 20-point advantage among Catholics. Senate winner Sherrod Brown, also a Democrat, won the Catholic vote 54 percent to 46 percent, a 47-point turnaround from 2000, when Republican Mike DeWine landed the seat.
Also on Nov. 7, a proposal in Missouri to limit human cloning and embryonic stem-cell research was defeated. Missouris Catholic bishops had called for defeat of the measure, saying that no human life, at any stage of its development, may ever be taken for the sake of someone elses gain. A proposal to ban abortion in South Dakota was also voted down.
In Arizona, voters approved proposals limiting state services to illegal immigrants and making English the states official language. Both measures were opposed by local bishops. Proposals that would have required parental notification before a minors abortion were defeated in Oregon and California, while voters in Wisconsin approved a referendum that could lead to reinstatement of the death penalty.
Catholics voting for the party of death. I wonder what percentage of those who voted Democrat are Hispanics.
What America needs is spiritual revival more than political realignment.
Interesting that you should bring it up - there's a post-election poll out there (can't find it at the moment) that IIRC breaks down the Catholic vote in just this way. I'll dig it up and post a link to this thread.
The source of this article is a leftist, liberal Catholic periodical. Take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, but they haven't put any spin on the numbers. Other than the lack of examination of who the 'Catholic' voters are.
As one of the articles Alex posted a while back said in the title, Who gets to call themselves 'Catholic'?
In politics, that label doesn't mean a whole lot. John Kerry and Governor Granholm call themselves Catholic and they will never oppose abortion.
While we three may have a great deal of common ground on political and moral issues (we do post on FR, after all), the Catholics on FR have to admit they are in the minority among their fellow Catholics (socially and politically) in America. Now IMO if the Catholic Church would enforce church disciple and excommunicate the functionally-apostate, self-labelled 'Catholics' who write this stuff, non-Catholics like myself might get a clearer picture of what Catholics (both laity and priests) actually believe (socially and politically), and IMO have a greater impact morally on the culture. The downside is that such actions might also mean the believing Catholic Church is a far smaller group than anyone would like to admit.
FWIW, you can swap out the word "Catholic" for just about any Protestant or Evangelical label you want, and I'd still be giving the same advice.
A publication that ought to be suppressed.
"...the Catholics on FR have to admit they are in the minority among their fellow Catholics (socially and politically) in America."
Unlikely that they're in the minority, unlikely that they'd ever admit to being in the minority, or unlikely that some secretly voted Democrat this week? From the article:
Exit polls indicate that a majority of Catholics voted Democratic on Nov. 7, helping the party to take control of the House of Representatives and possibly the Senate.
Stunning figures after how Catholics went for Bush in 2004. I guess some of us didn't do the job! Very sad, in my opinion. Do you know how other denominations voted?
Links about Catholics and Bush:
The bishops are always telling us to fight abortion yet they dance with the pro aborts (ex. Al Smith Dinner). During this campaign, I kept seeing a film of a priest clapping for Hitlery at Canius college.
I am involved in the pro life cause but I feel that it is a waste of time. To be honest with you, most Catholics make me sick. A house divided against itself, cannot stand.
The Catholics did not care about the babies and most priests did not care.
I hope that if you continue in working for the pro-life cause, that you will upgrade your attitude and put even more effort into it rather than thinking it a waste of time. It also would probably really bring in postive results if you were positive about the Catholics you work with. Not giving up, not falling into discouragment, not getting "sick" of people will go a long way towards making your efforts bring about better results.
Keep the faith and it will keep you. I speak from experience.
I have had a positive attitude for 15 years but I keep seeing priests and bishops catering to politicians that are for partial birth abortion while the same priests and bishops are telling us to go out and stand and protest in front of some disgusting abortuary.
If you see this, it may help for you to ask for an audience with them and tell them the truth. You can also consider letting them know that other people besides you may be observing this.
Try something that's upfront and positive.
It's hard to decipher the thinking of current day Catholics. My guess would be that they are really CINOs and decided to go liberal this time.
Let's pray that they all come back to their senses when the see the dimocrats (or the ACLU) blocking "God" in something new.
"Unlikely that they're in the minority, unlikely that they'd ever admit to being in the minority,..."
It's likely they are a minority of their church.
"The New Republic, 52 percent of Catholics voted Democratic, compared with 47 percent who voted Republican."
I've seen it reported that 29% of Evangelicals voted Rat as opposed to 21% in 2004. I haven't seen how they have defined Evangelical, though.
I will join you in that prayer. I always counted on you Catholics at the polls! :-)
Wow, I actually agree with you.
It's possible that a lot of people will be surprised. Surprised that maybe there could be more faithful Catholics than it appears--surprised at the quality of those Catholics--surprised that there has been a sleeping giant awakened in those who may now seem to be lukewarm.
I am one who believes that there are very many Catholics going quietly about their lives and daily duties, who probably have never been on a Forum site like this one, are living lives "hidden in the heart of Christ in God" and when the time comes---"all that is hidden will be revealed".
I am full of hope and am prepared to be rejoicing.
You can't be a faithful Catholic without it showing. If you live the Catholic faith you will stand out like a sore thumb. Chesterton once said in his unique humorous fashion, "You can tell a Catholic by the way he climbs a tree."
You cannot take your Catholicism seriously and fail to assist at Mass every Sunday ... yet it is said that only 1/3 of us manage to accomplish this very difficult (NOT!) feat.
I located the article I had mentioned earlier - only it breaks down the 2004 vote, not the current one. Hopefully this will be of some use:
An important division exists between white and minority Catholics, particularly Hispanic Catholics. While they are a swing group overall, white Catholics voted decidedly for George W. Bush in 2004, 56 percent to 43 percent, and Hispanic Catholics strongly supported John Kerry, voting 65 percent to 33 percent in his favor. In this year's exit poll, Hispanics made up 17 percent of Catholics, a jump of 4 percent from 2000. It will be interesting to see if this rift deepens over time as the makeup of the American Catholic church continues to change.
I sure would hate to stand out like a sore thumb.
Isn't there a better way?
And I don't climb trees anymore, either, so that's out, too.
Nope, not in this day and age, not until The Kingship of Christ is recognized in all hearts and all nations and Christendom is restored. If you live a faithful Catholic life today you will not blend in with the crowd.
Bishops and priests who do not adhere to the Church's teachings have contributed to this problem, and they sprouted like weeds on God's lawn. I trust that B16 will start a landscaping project to make the green grass crowd out the weeds.
Working towards God's will is never a waste of time. I'll add you to my prayer intentions that God will refill your cup and keep you filled with hope.