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New Obama Military Rules of Engagement:, Donít shoot back
Backpacker ^ | Jul. 04 2009

Posted on 11/11/2009 6:52:34 PM PST by clove

Recently on ABC television news, one of their videos showed a U.S. Marine hunkered down in Afghanistan complaining on camera that he was not allowed to shoot back when under fire. This situation resulted from Obama’s new rules of engagement from his new Afghanistan commander. General McChrystal explained it to BBC news that they are now advising troops to break off from firefights with the Taliban, "If you are in a situation where you are under fire from the enemy... if there is any chance of creating civilian casualties or if you don't know whether you will create civilian casualties, if you can withdraw from that situation without firing, then you must do so”

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Is this why the body count is going up in Afghanistan since Obama took office?
1 posted on 11/11/2009 6:52:36 PM PST by clove
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To: clove
advising troops to break off from firefights with the Taliban,

What happened to, "Afghanistan is the HONORABLE war"...?

2 posted on 11/11/2009 6:55:28 PM PST by gaijin
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To: clove

Is this for real? If yes, Barack Hussein Obama is killing our troops himself.


3 posted on 11/11/2009 6:55:46 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: clove

Well, it looks like the Vietnamization of Afghanistan has begun. B-P


4 posted on 11/11/2009 6:55:51 PM PST by Nowhere Man (The night they drove old America down (11-07-2009))
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To: clove

“or if you don’t know whether you will create civilian casualties”

Impeach.


5 posted on 11/11/2009 6:56:30 PM PST by omega4179 (14: real death toll from islamist terror attack R.I.P 11/5/09)
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To: clove

I can’t, I just can’t. This disease has been planted and it is beyond herbicide, beyond fire, drought or scorching sun, We are screwed.


6 posted on 11/11/2009 6:56:30 PM PST by the anti-mahdi
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To: clove

You betcha


7 posted on 11/11/2009 6:56:37 PM PST by dila813
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To: Nowhere Man

What did you expect? The Dimocrats are in “charge.” It’s what they do.....screw things up royally! I will say no more for fear of being banned.


8 posted on 11/11/2009 6:57:09 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: clove
I have the same nightmare every night.
The enemy has taken over the White House.

Then I wake up!

9 posted on 11/11/2009 6:57:23 PM PST by AU72
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To: clove

More troops coming home injured thanks to these new engagement rules.

Start protecting our troops. Grow some F’n balls you military azz brass.


10 posted on 11/11/2009 6:57:38 PM PST by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in to the world. I love the USA)
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To: clove

Until now, I never even considered that Obama was not born in the USA. But this is looking more and more like Manchurian Candidate material, you know....?

JUST WOW.


11 posted on 11/11/2009 6:57:39 PM PST by gaijin
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To: clove
I want him GONE ASAP before he screws up anything else and gets more of us killed -- here or there.

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12 posted on 11/11/2009 6:58:44 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: clove
New Obama Military Rules of Engagement:, Don’t shoot back

Peace Bro.

Don't disrupt the wants of those who promote Utopia as a society,

...they'll get pissed!

13 posted on 11/11/2009 6:59:08 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: clove

14 posted on 11/11/2009 6:59:28 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: clove

linky no work....


15 posted on 11/11/2009 6:59:47 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: omega4179

How can one ever “know”?


16 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:09 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: clove

Now we know why he is so indicisive about the war and why he could not call the attack at Fort Hood terrorism.


17 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:13 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: clove

I have three nephews in the military now. A Marine who reupped before the election, a Navy Corpman, and another who recently enlisted in the Navy. Please pray for them.


18 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:18 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: gaijin
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19 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:42 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: clove

If this is the case, the troops just need to be brought home.


20 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:43 PM PST by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: clove

One outrage after the other.


21 posted on 11/11/2009 7:00:57 PM PST by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: clove
Jesus!

Obama just handed the Taliban the keys to killing more Americans!

“If you do not know...” puts the responsibility on the Soldier to know that there is no way he could hurt a civilian... and since you can never “know” (prove) a negative, Soldiers must break off every firefight or risk courts martial!

22 posted on 11/11/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: goodnesswins

It works for me. I don’t know what to suggest.


23 posted on 11/11/2009 7:02:39 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: clove

Yes.

In Obama-esque fashion, he’s ordered our troops to lose without using the word “lose”.


24 posted on 11/11/2009 7:03:04 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: dragnet2

“It’s OK ma’am, they died for diversity”

Somebody pinch me....it’s like an episode of “V”.


25 posted on 11/11/2009 7:06:51 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin - Supports a "path to citizenship" for illegal aliens. "path to citizenship" IS AMNESTY)
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To: clove

ON NOV. 1st I POSTED THE FOLLOWING COMMENT:

“Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:00:59 PM · 44 of 55
Tucker39 to sharkhawk
I’ll go so far as to say that I think the more body bags come back from the Middle East, the better “The One” likes it. And that it correlates with his dithering on Afghanistan.

I think his plan is to dither and hedge and hem-haw and screw around, meanwhile letting the body bags pile up, until the MainSlime Media takes their cue from him and starts the same kind of screaming anti-war stuff they did toward the end of the Viet Nam surrender and pullout. I actually think his visit to Dover was part of that plan; intended to DRAW ATTENTION to the returning coffins.

Once the media-induced hue and cry to end the war gets great enough, Obama can throw in the towel in the Middle East, and surrender and pull out; and he can say he is only doing the bidding of a majority of Americans, whether it’s actually true or not. Since when was this man ever concerned about being truthful?!”

If this report of the latest rules of engagement is correct; I REST MY CASE!


26 posted on 11/11/2009 7:08:07 PM PST by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: machogirl

And the general staff and congresscritters seem to go along with this rule of engagement. I wonder how many of our GIs think: “Am I pointing my weapon in the right direction?”


27 posted on 11/11/2009 7:08:25 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: clove

Obama’s support of the military; what’s old is new again...

“Bangety Bang Bang! Stabity Stab Stab!” It’s no use.

The German keeps coming. He stomps the recruit into the ground, and says, “Tankety Tank Tank.”


28 posted on 11/11/2009 7:10:14 PM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: clove

Obama is the all time stupidest president in history.
Ordering troops under fire to not defend themselves is treason against the United States.


29 posted on 11/11/2009 7:10:31 PM PST by BuffaloJack (All Dictators have their Henchmen; the President just calls them his Czars.)
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To: clove

I think that it is time that questions are asked and answers are demanded!


30 posted on 11/11/2009 7:11:35 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: BuffaloJack

He might be stupid but that doesn’t make him any less dangerous.


31 posted on 11/11/2009 7:12:38 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: clove

YES! It’s obvious how he hates America and our military and they are sitting ducks under his power!


32 posted on 11/11/2009 7:14:59 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BuffaloJack

It’s not that he is stupid, this is deliberate! He understands he’s putting our military in jeopardy.


33 posted on 11/11/2009 7:16:19 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: clove
“Is this why the body count is going up in Afghanistan since Obama took office?”

ahhhh....YES. And why the h*ll doesn't everyone know this?

Oh, I forget. Most Americans rely on/believe the media for their news - the same media that doesn't report things inconvenient to the obummer or the socialist agenda.

HOWEVER that is no excuse - we have the Internet, we have FOX, we have Rush, etc. We should be keeping ourselves aware - no excuse for not knowing about the ROE that obummer set up LAST SPRING - and the many deaths that our soldiers have suffered since =

How about this one? Why wasn't this blasted on every news outlet?

Following is a email I sent out in early Sept - at the time, August had been the deadliest of the war and Sept was on the way to surpassing it. It did. And Oct even more.

email - with link:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html

"our traitor in chief is aiding and abetting our enemy in killing our troops = ducks in a shooting gallery and not allowed to defend themselves - no cover.

"August was the deadliest month of the whole war for our troops = Sept is setting up to be even worse...because of the new ROE - Rules of Engagement...
which are NOT to provide air cover for our troops, even when ambushed, pinned down and being killed. (the rationale for these new ROE’s admits that it will cause more deaths for our troops now but that it will be worth it in the long run. Worth it for WHO?)

"That is treason. Pure and simple. That is aiding and abetting the enemy, who now knows THEY have the cover, not our troops - and they are ramping it up." *****************

34 posted on 11/11/2009 7:17:46 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: AU72
I have the same nightmare every night. The enemy has taken over the White House. Then I wake up!

It's still true...

35 posted on 11/11/2009 7:20:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: AU72
"I have the same nightmare every night. The enemy has taken over the White House. Then I wake up!"

I have the same dream every night.
America has a president that loves its freedom, people, history, heritage, soldiers, and families.

Then I wake up.

36 posted on 11/11/2009 7:21:27 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan ("For Death is in charge of the clattering train")
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To: maine-iac7

I had not heard any of this until tonight at church someone mentioned it because they were asking for prayer for family members in Afghanistan who are dealing with this and watching their friends die. You are right. why is this not blasted across the news....oh yes, the MSM


37 posted on 11/11/2009 7:22:04 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: Tucker39
If this report of the latest rules of engagement is correct

This is from ..... Jul. 04 2009
38 posted on 11/11/2009 7:22:56 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Well, ya’ll told us and told us and told us that we would have a terrorist attack if this guy got in.

and now we have.

it is so sad.


39 posted on 11/11/2009 7:22:58 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Tucker39
If this report of the latest rules of engagement is correct

This is from ..... Jul. 04 2009 - since then the body count has gone up.
40 posted on 11/11/2009 7:23:29 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: A Texan
If this is the case, the troops just need to be brought home.

No

The obummer needs to be sent home...wherever that is -

41 posted on 11/11/2009 7:24:01 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Vendome
How can one ever “know”?

Hence, one can never shoot back.

42 posted on 11/11/2009 7:25:40 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: clove

This proves absolutely and without a doubt that Obama is not of American birth.
No Genuine American Born United States President would ever order our troops to disengage and run.

Obama’s Rules of Engagement: Turn Tail And Run.


43 posted on 11/11/2009 7:27:33 PM PST by BuffaloJack (All Dictators have their Henchmen; the President just calls them his Czars.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

And three years left! Where is MrMilitary - his claim to fame, McCain. Why isn’t he outraged. He will be in 2010 when he’ll be wearing a pink slip.


44 posted on 11/11/2009 7:31:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: clove

What IS the body count now? Does anybody know? There was an odometer of the body count on the front page of every newspaper in the US when Bush was President. Have you heard what the overall total was since Zero was immaculated? I sure haven’t. God I hate the SRM.


45 posted on 11/11/2009 7:33:08 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: clove

“It works for me. I don’t know what to suggest.”

I know EXACTLY what to suggest, but I’d get banned for saying it.


46 posted on 11/11/2009 7:34:36 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: clove


47 posted on 11/11/2009 7:34:48 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Tucker39

Your description is exactly right. It would provide what we fear the most.

ObaMAO’s idea is to inflict MAXIMUM US casualties.

What better way to accomplish it while looking presidential to his drooling sheeple?


48 posted on 11/11/2009 7:37:56 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: clove

Obama hates America, our military and our veterans so much that he’s making sure that Memorial Day will be one to remember.
May Obama rot in Hell for all eternity.


49 posted on 11/11/2009 7:39:57 PM PST by BuffaloJack (All Dictators have their Henchmen; the President just calls them his Czars.)
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To: clove
"If you are in a situation where you are under fire from the enemy... if there is any chance of creating civilian casualties or if you don't know whether you will create civilian casualties, if you can withdraw from that situation without firing, then you must do so”

Ha haaaa!!! That'll learn 'em!

50 posted on 11/11/2009 7:41:32 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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