Posted on 12/16/2009 9:52:42 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
For the sake of brevity - straight to the point (pun intended).
I have thought long about Huckabee's recent interview with Katie Couric. One of the topics that came up was Huckabee's view on same-sex marriage, and it was no accident that it came up. Huckabee's position on the issue of abortion is concrete - he is ardently pro-life. What remained was for him to effectively frame the same-sex marriage debate, and that he did. Quite effectively in fact.
In short, he told Couric that he was pro-traditional marriage, not anti-same sex marriage. He said that it's not that he is against gay marriage, it is that he is for traditional marriage, and that marriage should be between one man and one woman, not one man and one man, one man and two women, etc.
Secondly, he said that once you open the door by redefining marriage (by allowing legal, consenting adult same sex marriage), that there is "no limit" on marriage being redefined again, and that you open the door for allowing marriage to be redefined once again to allow legal, consenting adult polygamous marriage.
Third, he said that it wasn't bigotry and intolerance to not support consenting adult polygamous marriage.
Huckabee has framed this issue in a way that is unwinnable for liberals - and they cannot counter him on this - at least not effectively.
If liberals say that Huckabee is an intolerant bigot, he can say that if he is an intolerant bigot, then they are just as bigoted and just as intolerant as he because they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. He can say that they are also hypocrites to boot (the label that NO ONE wants) because they support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, but they don't support marriage being redefined to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage for the tens of thousands of polygamists in America who do want to get married. He can say that at least he is consistent on the issue of marriage: no to polygamy and no to same sex marriage.
If some bring up the question of polygamous marriage presently being illegal, Huckabee can say that same-sex marriage is presently illegal in the overwhelming majority of places in the U.S. and that at one time it was illegal everywhere in the U.S.
If some bring up polygamous marriage being declared illegal by SCOTUS, then Huckabee can say that if same-sex marriage were declared illegal by SCOTUS that gay activists would never cease in trying to get a future SCOTUS to overturn its ruling in the future.
If liberals say that they are against discrimination and for marriage equality for gays, and that Huckabee is not, then Huckabee can counter by asking why they don't support marriage equality for polygamists and why do they support discrimination against them?
And on and on it would go...
This is an unwinnable situation for liberals, who really went after Huckabee on social issues in the 2008 elections. NO ONE wants to be seen as pro-polygamy. NO ONE. Just ask one of Obama's nominees.
Scalia was correct. We were told that overturning the sodomy laws would never, ever lead to gay activits trying to get same-sex marriage legalized. Look at what has happened. We have also been told that if marriage is redefined to allow consenting adult same sex marriage, that it would never ever be redefined again to allow consenting adult polygamous marriage. Sure.
The same arguments that have been used in the push for same sex marriage can be used in the push for polygamous marriage: Bigotry, intolerance, "marriage equality," discrimination, "marriage is about love" and so on.
The one thing that liberals might say to Huckabee is that the Bible condones polygamy, so why doesn't he? They would be hard pressed, though, to find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus condoned polygamous marriage.
For those who may wonder: Will I support Huckabee in 2012? Here is my list of whom I support in 2012, and in this order: Palin, Jindal, Huckabee.
Huckabee is done.
No he is NOT.
I find it hard to believe anyone would support Mitt or Huck or Rudy or....
Huckabee is a friend to criminals. He has multiple cases of pardoning murderers who later went out and murdered more people.
He’s not tough on crime. He can’t be President. We need a Southern candidate but Huckabee is just not the guy. He coddles criminals.
What say you?
“Some Observations: Huckabee IS Locking Up The Social Conservative Vote”
This Social Conservative will vote for Mike Huckaloogie when those four cops that got shot in Lakewood, Wa return to life and their families in a Christmas miracle. Until that miracle takes place, Mike Hugacriminal can pound sand.
Can we please relegate Huckabee to the ashheap?
Please?
But the MSM wants the Huckster (McLame II)
Huckabee ——big taxes; big government; politician through and through-——he was after all governor of Arkansas. Think Bill Clinton light
“Locking up?”
Two years out?
LOL
He should lock up violent criminals if he wants to lock up the votes...
If you want someone who is tough on crime look no further than Bob Riley. Bob Riley is responsible for more executions than the last two governors combined. Bob Riley knows what it takes to keep your family safe.
Why do we need a Southern candidate?
I guess I didn’t realize that “social conservatives” were in favor of letting violent criminals out of prison so they can go kill a bunch of cops.
On a side note, I think the word “social” does the same thing for “conservative” that it does for “justice.”
Non issue by 2012. The waters have already been muddled.
The board that oversaw the clemency have already been injected into the fray. If they played the role in determining that he should be given clemency and Huckabee went on their recommendation, then it’s over for this issue.
My rule is: never support a candidate who has been governor of Arkansas. (or Massachewsets.)
I’m not worried about him locking up the social conservative vote, he’ll just pardon it anyway.
Read #15.
Hunter/DeMint 2012. No wimps, no RINOs
Trust me.
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