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On the Troll Problem

Posted on 01/17/2010 4:22:23 PM PST by reasonisfaith

This is a response to the plan by Obama and his advisors like Cass Sunstein to “cognitively infiltrate” groups they wrongfully designate as targets. So the leftists think they’re gonna pull off an Alinsky-style revolution, for the purpose of overthrowing the United States Constitution?

There are many here who will support and defend the United States Constitution, and who will reject the tactics of Saul Alinsky, Cloward-Piven, and all of communism. There are many here who take communist icons at their word, considering them as enemies of the United States. These enemies can be defeated.

Sinister characters, with neither the courage nor the ability to make themselves known publicly, use Obama to steal our liberty. Like puppeteer wannabees, they direct their puppet and the leftist-controlled House and Senate to institute the slavery of socialism.

Their mental-slave labor comes from unions such as SEIU. Healthcare, climate legislation, immigration and exploitation of natural disasters like the earthquake in Haiti are just some of the fronts they use to overthrow liberty.

We’re on the right side. From tea parties to Sarah Palin, to the Brown/Coakley race in Massachusetts, we are gaining a stronghold. Climategate and ongoing cold weather, along with algore photos, have been a source of comic relief. This forum has unlimited potential to advance our front line as we fight to defend liberty.

But we still have trolls to deal with, trolls who think they can infiltrate Free Republic as they try to overthrow our free republic.

Now here’s the whole point of this thread. If anyone is disheartened by the reality of not knowing whom to trust on this website, there is a solution.

Trust the principles first, and the rest will fall into place. Most Freepers are trustworthy.

The fruit born by leftist trolls on this website--their comments--will in some instances seem a bit out of place. It will be presented buried and hidden from view, amongst conservative-sounding rhetoric. Eventually they violate one or more conservative principle. The most common tactic seems to be the attempt to plant a seed of doubt.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" (Matthew 7:15-16)


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To: patriot08
Your post inspired the following:

Triumph, the insult comic dog

Fail, the insult comic pres__ent.

Cheers!

61 posted on 01/17/2010 10:42:18 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Blessent mon cœur/D’une langeur monotone [Wound mine heart with a monotonous languor]


62 posted on 01/18/2010 12:59:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: reasonisfaith; All
A couple of related articles- the "comments" sections are worth reading as well:

Head Scratcher of the Day: Liberals accuse US of teaching YOU to be Eeyores and Trolls against THEM

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Someone sent us this link and at first we thought it was an elaborate practical joke.  Then, we damn near choked on a rootbeer cupcake, as we just kept laughing at the absurdity, on the meta-level, over this:  Liberals at crazy places like DemocraticUnderground are accusing US of teaching all of YOU how to be Eeyores and Trolls to demoralize THEM.

Since February of 2008, our primary mission in life has been to counter the Left’s online presence, and the trolling, concern-trolling, and Eeyore breeding they do against whomever the target du jour is.  This is an astroturf operation of college-aged, paid, Internet operatives whose mission is to run psy-ops for the George Soros crowd.  They are incredibly effective, too, which is why we have been calling them out for going on two years now.

We coined the term Eeyore during Hillary Clinton’s primary campaign largely because of our own good friend Astrid, who depressed everyone around her because she’d visit sites Liberals infected with concern-trolling, and would then hit her 1,000-strong email list with every single bit of demoralizing, pessimistic, negative reporting she could muster.  She’d forward opinion pieces by Tim Russert and Keith Olbermann.  She’s transcribe all the propaganda MSNBC was issuing.  And she’d try to put little black rainclouds over everyone she knew.  But she wanted Hillary Clinton to win the primary nominati0n…and she never understood (and to this day still doesn’t understand) how much damage she (and Eeyores like her) did to the campaign by depressing turnout, convincing people to just give up, and lending credance to what the MSM was saying by personally vouching for them in her forwarded emails.

Eeyores are like computers taken over by a spam server — and start spewing spam out themselves and never realize it.  Eeyorism is an infection the Left spreads. We’ve been telling you this for two years.

It’s in full court press in the Massachusetts Senate race.  We clearly see Liberals trying to troll and concern troll and Eeyore breed 24/7, but thankfully more and more Moderates and Conservatives are waking up to this garbage.  Astrid still falls for it.  Too many people still fall for it, but many are waking up and soon we hope this particular astroturfing psy-ops trick won’t work anymore.

It’s just so funny to us that the Left now thinks we’re using their own tactic against them.  We will take some credit for spreading the word on what the Left has been up to and revealing their playbook to you.  We will continue to do just that until Liberals are destroyed, punished for what they did to the Clintons in 2008, and all of Liberals’ favorite goon squads like ACORN and the SEIU are permanently dismantled.

Payback’s a bitch, yo.

And Liberals are paranoid, and must be really feeling the pressure, because they actually believe we’re teaching all of you to use their own tricks against them.

Maybe that’s what we’re actually doing, without even realizing it.

Can you play eleventh dimensional chess without knowing that’s what you are doing?

For the sake of the country, we hope so.

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Other crazy people today are also calling us a “conservative site” and chide us for stoking what they call “An Orange Revolution”.

We’re just urging Americans to stand up for this country against the Liberal bullies currently in power.  It’s homophobic to call any Revolution we’re behind orange, since we’re gay, so it should be pink.  And the fact these people are emphasizing color at all is just plain RAAACIST.  And homophobic.  And because we support Israel, it’s antisemitic, too, even though we’re all lapsed Catholics and protestants.

All we are doing is trying to get Moderates and Conservatives to work together to use the Liberals’ Alinsky Methods playbook against them, to take back this country, boot the Liberals from office, and fix all the damage they have done in this The Golden Age of Hope and Change.

Apparently, that threatens some people.

We need to work harder to threaten even more, because clearly we must be on to something.

Comments:

"I think we should keep an eye on the Clintons…because IMO they are waiting, waiting, waiting, for the right moment. As Obama implodes the Democratic Party they can easily jump in to save it."

What are the trolls up to today?

Please use this thread to keep track of the script the trolls are using against Scott Brown in Massachusetts, in Liberals’ desperate efforts to keep “The Kennedy Seat” in their hands on Tuesday.

We firmly believe there are emails that go out, or a message board that posts instructions on a daily basis, telling the trolls what to say all across the Internets.

Trolls are people who come to a board, forum, or comment section of an article, and most negative things about a candidate, usually repeating the same attacks over and over again, like they are just cut and pasting prepared, nonsequitor remarks from Word docs.

Concern trolls are people who post the above negative points, but cloaked in things that at first seem supportive of the candidate. They do this for a few reasons, which include getting passed moderation in comments sections — hoping board moderators just read the first sentence of a longish post and approve it, not realizing the remarks were a net-negative and troll attack disguised nominally as a supportive post.

Eeyores are genuine supporters of a candidate who listen to the trolls and concern trolls and become so demoralized that they use the boards and forums as public therapy sessions, venting all their pessimism, and bringing other people down because these narcissists can’t keep their doubts and little black rain clouds to themselves until after the election is over.  They don’t realize how much energy they sap from people who are fighting for the candidate to win, because they need to be indulged in their hand-holding, and constantly must be talked down from ledges.

Then, there’s another group of people we are certain is on the DNC payroll, but we haven’t figured out how to place them in the above — really, they could be trolls, concern trolls, and Eeyores all at once.  They’re the “purists”, who specifically target any Republican running for office, hoping to push the magic button with conservative voters to get them to stay home on voting day because the Republican candidate, whoever he or she is, “is not conservative enough”.  The sick twist to this is that, if you pay attention to political forums, these same purists say EVERY Republican candidate is not conservative enough.  NO ONE is conservative enough for these people.  They claim Reagan is their hero today, but if Reagan was running for anything today, they would certainly be attacking him for not being conservative enough himself.  That’s because, in our opinion, these people are most likely college-age Liberals getting paid to drive down Republican support for a candidate and demoralize conservative voters.

There is a major psy-ops effort underway against Scott Brown’s voters in Massachusetts.  If Democrats are sending all of their big guns to the state to campaign for Martha Coakley, don’t you think they’ve also mobilized their troll army as well?

They are doing everything they can to keep Brown voters at home on Tuesday.  They know that Brown is going to win if we can keep people motivated and get them to vote next week.  So they are spending the next three days working hard to breed Eeyores in Brown supporters’ midst, to make people give up, to get them to surrender.

Here’s something we received today from a reader, noting some of the troll talking points for today that she’s seeing:

the trolls are out in full force making comments in the papers. There is one person ranting about being loyal democrat and saying stupid stuff like calling brown a teabagger.

One of them started off about the Cosmo spread but that went over like a lead balloon. No one is buying these pro-Coakley or pro-Obot comments, especially the crap about “free” healthcare. These twats seem to not understand that it will never be free because taxes are still paying for it…. as for the slinging at doctors…. well…. they are probably greedy union officials… getting high salaries and throwing the mud around.

It looks like, from the above comment, that trolls have either received an email telling them the following, or have their marching orders posted on a Daily Kos or MoveOn.org board somewhere telling them to say, over and over, that:

(1) Scott Brown is a “teabagger”, because Liberals seem to believe this is a vile insult, when most Americans support the Tea Party Rebellion against Socialism.

(2) Scott Brown is a former Cosmo centerfold — as if that is a bad thing in any way, shape or form.  We wish he had been a Playgirl model.  We’d have hung that up over the mantle in our living room (particularly if the thing was hung itself).

(3) Scott Brown will stop people from having “free healthcare” — and it appears no one is dumb enough to fall for that lie.

Do some critical thinking today.

Look for Troll, Concern Troll, Eeyore, and Purist comments in articles you read or boards you go to and start collecting the common threads that run between them.

Can you add more numbers to the list above, in terms of what talking points are being pushed against Scott Brown today?

This is actually bigger than Brown himself, in that we want you to participate in this exercise so that you can get better and better at smacking down Trolls, Concern Trolls, Eeyores, and Purists in the future.  Call them out as Liberal operatives and plants.  Make sure they lose all power over the gullible.

Become experts in identifying astroturfing tactics and psy-ops attacks from Liberals.

In the next three days, this stuff is going to get nasty.  Psy-ops is the only strategy available to Liberals as a last result in the final days of an election.  There will be much pizza ordered, many late nights, and thousands of these trolls coast to coast working hard to affect the Massachusetts Senate race by demoralizing Brown supporters and suppressing his supporters.

Your job is to counter these efforts with common sense and sunlight — the natural enemies of trolls everywhere.

Here is another one Obama ordering troll attacks on talk radio http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/obama-orders-lemmings-to-troll-talk-radio-for-health-care-disaster.html


63 posted on 01/18/2010 2:53:26 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

lol.


64 posted on 01/18/2010 4:39:23 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: reasonisfaith

How do you differentiate between ‘trolls’ and contrary ideas, or even people you simply do not like?


65 posted on 01/18/2010 9:14:43 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

“People you simply do not like” is nonexistent in this discussion.

Give me an example of what you mean by a “contrary idea,” and I’ll answer your question.


66 posted on 01/18/2010 6:53:29 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: Gondring

I’m using “trolls” to mean the kind who want to advance the leftist agenda (subvert our Constitution) by inflicting chaos on websites like this one.


67 posted on 01/18/2010 7:14:22 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

To argue otherwise is not only foolish but also a waste of time and effort.

How’s that?


68 posted on 01/18/2010 7:56:26 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

Excellent example of a contrary opinion.

The difficulty, however, is that it can be given in sincerity or in deceit. The latter can never be perfectly disguised.


69 posted on 01/19/2010 3:30:21 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: backhoe

Will read later.


70 posted on 01/19/2010 3:37:39 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: henry_reardon

Some RINOs act more like leftists with a subversive agenda.


71 posted on 01/19/2010 3:53:13 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: reasonisfaith

What troll problem?


72 posted on 01/19/2010 9:30:54 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: workerbee
Unfortunately, there are people here who have a knee-jerk response to anyone who doesn't agree with them. "Troll", "RINO", "Newbie" are favorite epithets

In fact, the knee-jerk criers of "TROLL!" are the real trolls....

73 posted on 01/19/2010 9:32:37 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: El Sordo
Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. To argue otherwise is not only foolish but also a waste of time and effort.

< SARCASM > GO BACK TO DU, TROLL!!! < /SARCASM >

74 posted on 01/19/2010 9:42:21 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

Oh it’s nothing. What could possibly motivate leftists to log on to the premier conservative website and pretend to be conservative while undermining the conservative agenda?

Leftists probably don’t even exist.

That’s it...it’s all just a silly, paranoid conspiracy. There’s no such thing as leftists. Leftist ideology is a mirage.


75 posted on 01/19/2010 4:31:18 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Liberals are just creative enough to fall into their own intellectual trap.)
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To: reasonisfaith

Last night looking for something, I noticed that there are a few FReepers who post thread after thread, anywhere from 5-26 a day, who virtually never comment on them. They simply post the thread from their favorite source and then go on to posting the next one.

Some of the threads are dupes of others posted by other FReepers so obviously the thread spammers are not even searching.

There are no replies from them, or virtually none. There are a couple who have been here a few years, but three have sign up dates of this year.

Now, I understand that FR is open to anyone who wants to join, but there’s a difference between signing up to join the discussion and bounce ideas off each other, and signing up to pimp your favorite website and get more hits on it through exposure on FR, at FR’s expense.

I have the names of the worst offenders. Is this worth notifying those who count about this, or should I presume they know about it already and don’t mind?


76 posted on 03/10/2010 5:32:51 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: adm5

No avatars, PLEASE!!!!


77 posted on 03/10/2010 5:34:36 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It couldn’t hurt.


78 posted on 03/12/2010 4:41:21 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. You can't be honest about your agenda because you're not confident in it.)
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