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An Open Letter to Glenn Beck (re: "birthers")
puzo1.blogspot.com ^ | 1/28/2010 | Charles Kerchner

Posted on 01/28/2010 2:37:32 PM PST by rxsid

An Open Letter to Glenn Beck

From: Charles Kerchner, Commander USNR (Retired)
Written: 28 Jan 2010

"Glenn, you say you have studied the founders and framers of our U.S. Constitution to try to learn more about the original intent and meanings of the words therein.

I Believe The Fix Was In for the 2008 Election and The Cover Up is Still Going Strong and Has Created Tthe Perfect Storm for a Constitutional Crisis!
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/i-believe-fix-was-in-for-2008-election.html

Glenn, when are you going to read the preeminent legal treatise of the time of the Revolutionary War against Great Britain that was used by the founders to write the Declaration of Independence and the framers to craft our U.S. Constitution. Benjamin Franklin referred to it as being in heavy use and demand by the delegates at the Continental Congress in 1775 when four copies were sent to him by Dumas who published a newly edited edition in 1775. It was written in French the diplomatic language of the time of which Franklin and many others who founded our nation were fluent in as well as English.

The term, "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", is a direct quote from this book. And there are many more quotes from it in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. And this book is even mentioned by name in Article III of the U.S. Constitution.

This book was the legal reference book describing a new form of government for governing a Constitutional Republic with a written Constitution that George Washington had on his desk and was observed reading from in his first day in office in New York and it was the legal book John Jay had on his desk as the 1st Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. John Jay's letter to George Washington is the reason the legal term of art from that legal book is in Article II of the U.S. Constitution as to the eligibility requirements to be President.

The name of the book is, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", by Vattel. I recommend you read it. If you don't have time to read it all, read at least Volume 1. And if you don't have time to read that, the read Vol.1, Chapter 19, Section 212, on the natural law definitions of "Citizenship" and the separate meaning and definition of the legal term of art "natural born Citizen".

The question for constitutional standards regarding Obama is not whether he is a Citizen of the U.S., but whether he is a "natural born Citizen" of the U.S. to Constitutional standards as envisioned by the founders and framers of the Constitution and reiterated in four U.S. Supreme Court decisions over the next 100 years of this nation until the progressive movement started to blur those two terms in the eyes and minds of the American people so their political party can put forward and elect anyone to the office of President and Commander in Chief (CINC) of our military. The President and CINC per the founders intent must have sole allegiance at birth to only the USA with no citizenship at birth from his parents in any other nation. That is a "natural born Citizen", citizenship at birth in only the USA. He must be born in the USA to two Citizens of the USA to achieve natural born Citizenship and sole allegiance at birth. Obama was born with dual-citizenship. He was not eligible per the founders intent. But the Progressive movement has convinced People otherwise. And you are helping them with their cover up.

Read Vattel's, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", Vol. 1, Chapter 19, Section 212. This is natural law given to nature from God. Pray on it. Then speak the truth from the heart. Speak truth to power. You have the ability to save the Constitution and the Republic. Please speak up on the true meaning of "natural born Citizen" and educate the People on the difference between born Citizen, naturalized Citizen, and "natural born Citizen" http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/Citizenship-Terms-Used-in-the-US-Constitution-The-5-Terms-Defined-Some-Legal-Reference-to-Same

I am a Son of the American Revolution. I served my country in the military for 33 years on active duty and reserves. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, not to defend a President or a man.

Please read this book and then speak out about it on your shows.

Sincerely,

Charles Kerchner
Commander USNR (Retired)
Pennsylvania
http://www.protectourliberty.org"

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/open-letter-to-glenn-beck.html


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KEYWORDS: beck; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; fox; foxnews; glennbeck; obama; soetoro
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Beck CONTINUES to slam those seeking the truth about Barry's eligibility. He also CONTINUES to completely miss the issue, big time. Here, he spends nearly 3 minutes on his show stating he has no doubt Barry is a "citizen." Ah, Beck. Hello? This is about weather or not Barry is a "Natural Born Citizen" as the Constitution requires to be eligible to be POTUS. Wake up Beck! Your not proving your case by being misinformed yourself!!! Your only showing yourself to be ignorant on this Constitutional issue. The very people you mock, have a lot more knowledge and information on this issue that do you and furthermore, (at the very least) they start off with the correct question (i.e. "citizen" vs. "natural born citizen").

I happened to catch a few minutes of Beck's show, yesterday (1/27/10) and heard him (again) railing on "birthers" and those who question Barry's eligibility. I haven't confirmed yet if that was a rerun of his previous smear, or a new one.

1 posted on 01/28/2010 2:37:34 PM PST by rxsid
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To: LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; Red Steel; pissant; hoosiermama; null and void; Amityschild; Calpernia; ...
Pinging LucyT's list...

"An Open Letter to Glenn Beck (re: "birthers")"

2 posted on 01/28/2010 2:38:23 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Beck is a tool and his pal is O’Reilly. I dropped Beck because of it. He also whine “theese Democrats and Republicans.” No Glenn - they “ain’t” the same. The Dems are just evil.

I dropped Beck plus all the other anti-birthers - Hewitt, Boortz the tedious bore, Ingraham (also boring), Coulter (sad but true), Medved, O’Reilly ( he is a joke) and a few others.

The only good ones are Rush, Savage, Levin (I think), Cunningham, Maltzberg and maybe Dennis Miller who did mention it at least once.


3 posted on 01/28/2010 2:41:32 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: rxsid

I e-mailed Beck yesterday and told him I was a big fan but he sounds uninformed and he’s being a moron on this issue.


4 posted on 01/28/2010 2:44:09 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: Frantzie

Completely agree w/you. And, your list of “drops” vs. “listen to’s” looks about like mine.


5 posted on 01/28/2010 2:44:23 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

The way I look at the birther issue is just to stay away from it right now. I’m kind of on the fence about the whole thing, but nevertheless if you publicly demand to see a BC right now in this climate you will be branded a radical. If we wait long enough, the Dims will do our bidding for us. 0 will quickly become so unpopular that his base will look for any way to get him out of office. They may not publicly advocate to see the BC but they won’t stop the efforts like they are now.

I know I’m about to get flamed for writing that, but that just seems like the most reasonable route right now.


6 posted on 01/28/2010 2:44:32 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: rxsid
And this book is even mentioned by name in Article III of the U.S. Constitution.

It is? Where?

7 posted on 01/28/2010 2:44:34 PM PST by Kleon
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To: rxsid
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


8 posted on 01/28/2010 2:46:41 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: TigersEye
"I e-mailed Beck yesterday and told him I was a big fan but he sounds uninformed and he’s being a moron on this issue."

Yeah, on this issue, he is big-time ignorant (or purposefully deflecting for some reason or another).

Beck, wake up! The question is, is he a "Natural Born" citizen? Sheesh. And, furthermore Beck...how in the world can someone be a NBC of the United States when they are born a subject to the British crown?

9 posted on 01/28/2010 2:47:48 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Am I missing anyone? I think Hannity has kept quiet. Anyone now who is screaming he is a citizen has been threatened they will be pulled from the air. Lou Dobbs has been threatened with gun shots at his house.


10 posted on 01/28/2010 2:48:12 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: rxsid

Let me see the friggin Birth Certificate

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

His parentage is problematic.


11 posted on 01/28/2010 2:48:19 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: rxsid
..how in the world can someone be a NBC of the United States when they are born a subject to the British crown?

I made my e-mail short but I did mention that. Everyone should hit him with an e-mail every time he brings it up. Include a few salient facts and/or links.

12 posted on 01/28/2010 2:51:22 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: Frantzie

Seems way too many have been frightened away from this topic; it’s toxic to them.

I can’t wait to find out the real story......as to why.


13 posted on 01/28/2010 2:52:12 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: camerongood210

I will not flame you. If Glenn was a guy in a white hat warning us of all this “stuff” as he calls it - why the change of heart?

Lou Dobbs had people fire gun shots at his house. Glenn could have just avoided talking about it at all. His bashing borthers means somebody got to him. The supposed “conservative” anti-birthers can go to h*ll. I am glad Rush is not one of them.


14 posted on 01/28/2010 2:52:15 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: camerongood210
"The way I look at the birther issue is just to stay away from it right now. I’m kind of on the fence about the whole thing, but nevertheless if you publicly demand to see a BC right now in this climate you will be branded a radical. If we wait long enough, the Dims will do our bidding for us. 0 will quickly become so unpopular that his base will look for any way to get him out of office. They may not publicly advocate to see the BC but they won’t stop the efforts like they are now.

I know I’m about to get flamed for writing that, but that just seems like the most reasonable route right now."

No flammage here. Just 1 point and 1 question:

Point - If he's allowed to complete his term(s) usurping the Constitution, it will set a precedent for future usurpings. Think it can't happen again? Why not? It's happening right now. Not a good thing for the long term health of the republic! This travesty against the Constitution can not be allowed to be simply "voted out."

Question - Do you believe that someone who was born with foreign citizenship is, and should be considered a natural born citizen?

15 posted on 01/28/2010 2:53:25 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: camerongood210

I understand your arguments about staying away from the issue.

(I don’t agree with it, but understand)

But on the flip side, is it a good idea to trash and/or make fun of the ineligible issue?

What if at some point in the near future this issue is proven or resolved in a way that shows Barry to have been ineligible to be President.

“Birthers” will be proven correct and people who have remained silent will look like they just didn’t want to get involved.

But the vocal mockers will look like fools. Beck and Bill have stuck their feet in this and in my opinion have made a mistake.

I guess time will tell.


16 posted on 01/28/2010 2:55:37 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: rxsid

I believe Glen Beck’s hands are tied regarding this issue from FNC. He said that Obama is a citizen, which Obama is. No one is arguing whether or not Obama is a citizen, we are arguing if Obama is a “natural” born citizen.


17 posted on 01/28/2010 2:55:38 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: TigersEye
"0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could."

Good questions....to which I would add:

 

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.

18 posted on 01/28/2010 2:55:41 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Frantzie
"Am I missing anyone? I think Hannity has kept quiet. Anyone now who is screaming he is a citizen has been threatened they will be pulled from the air. Lou Dobbs has been threatened with gun shots at his house."

Hannity has actually mentioned a case or two (at least one of Taitz's cases) on one of his show's on Fox news as well as his radio show.

This clip has both his mention of the issue on his radio as well as his t.v. show: Sean Hannity, Obama birth certificate, Hannity radio show, Sean Hannity on Fox

19 posted on 01/28/2010 3:01:50 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Frantzie; camerongood210
"Glenn could have just avoided talking about it at all."

That's a big point here. Why even mention it at all if he's convinced that (even though he was born a citizen of two country's - assuming HI birth) Barry is eligible? Instead, he'd rather alienate a significant portion of his listener base...for what? Does he think the libs will take the place of those he pisses off? Doesn't even make good business sense. He must have been warned.

20 posted on 01/28/2010 3:06:55 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

The question also is - did Hannity ever smear “birthers” like O’Reilly or BORe’s new pal Beck?

I do not think so.


21 posted on 01/28/2010 3:10:48 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: rxsid
Glenn has said at this time being a “birther” is counter productive.
The majority of American's don't believe or care about this issue.
You will be branded as a “radical”.
As far left as the progressives are you will be called a right wing kook.
When the time is right, it will be brought to the forefront.
Patience my friends, patience.
22 posted on 01/28/2010 3:11:07 PM PST by lucky american (Glenn Beck Rocks!!! Sarah Palin Too!!!)
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To: RightOnline

A few months back - almost on cue and on the same day they all came out making jokes about “brithers.” Hewitt, Ingraham, Coulter, Medved, Boortz and a few other lightweights. My guess is they were probably all warned to get on board or else.

At the same time - Coulter starts doing CNN shows a lot including Larry King.

The more established and bigger stars did not say a word.


23 posted on 01/28/2010 3:14:58 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: rxsid

Well, I have mainly stayed out of this....but... I think the time has come to actively pursue this issue.

Obama is not a legal natural born American citizen. He is a foreigner and not eligible to be a POTUS.

This piece of crap needs to be stopped ASAP.


24 posted on 01/28/2010 3:17:19 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Mears

bfl


25 posted on 01/28/2010 3:17:46 PM PST by Mears
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To: lucky american

I concur. So far this issue has garnered no traction and at this time I believe it is best to put our efforts elsewhere. The people are waking up slowly but surely.


26 posted on 01/28/2010 3:18:51 PM PST by rwh (What great fortune it is for those in power that the people do not think!)
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To: lucky american

Did Glenn fall of the wagon and start drinking again or did his porn addiction (he admitted to both on the radio) flare up again?

I really liked Glenn but his friendship with O’Reilly was the other final straw. Glenn is just an Obama,Soros NWO, Bilderberg,Davos stooge.


27 posted on 01/28/2010 3:20:30 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Frantzie
"The question also is - did Hannity ever smear “birthers” like O’Reilly or BORe’s new pal Beck? I do not think so."

Exactly! Hannity has mentioned the issue, but never (to my knowledge) ridiculed those that seek the answers like BOR and Beck have.

28 posted on 01/28/2010 3:21:00 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I listened to Michael Savage while traveling and he spoke on Obama’s eligibility for at least two hours. He said he could speak out because he owes no one. He said all the others have to do what they are told. And if they don’t, they lose their jobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLPmjZEN1Eo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SlRw9hyWmc


29 posted on 01/28/2010 3:21:33 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Mears

bfl


30 posted on 01/28/2010 3:24:20 PM PST by Mears
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To: indylindy
"This piece of crap needs to be stopped ASAP."

Once people realize that when Barry is exposed, it will mean everything he's done becomes very questionable from a legal/Constitutional perspective, perhaps they will get it.
His eligibility issue is much bigger than his proposed health care. Can a usurper sign anything into law, or sign agreements with other country's? Will Nanzi, Biden and others fall with him, as they helped to perpetuate this fraud against the American people...even declaring him eligible (in writing on DNC papers)?

31 posted on 01/28/2010 3:27:06 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: camerongood210
The way I look at the birther issue is just to stay away from it right now.

The signers of the Declaration of Independence were labeled "radicals". I'm glad they didn't sit on their hands and "stay away from it".

EVERY day 0bama sits in the Oval Office, he does this Country irreparable harm. If he can be removed, even one day sooner by proving that he is not qualified and is a usurper, then it is best for the Country.

32 posted on 01/28/2010 3:27:19 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: OafOfOffice

Here is the Phil Berg interview. Savage’s comments I heard were a couple of nights later and I can’t find that show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al-OfGK36gc


33 posted on 01/28/2010 3:27:47 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: rwh; lucky american
"So far this issue has garnered no traction"

It hasn't gone away, either, like so many had hoped.

A recent field poll done in liberal California (of all places) found that at least 1/3 of the respondent's were either not sure or don't believe Barry was born in HI. That is significant. Furthermore, that is simply the question of birth location.

It would be interesting to see the results of a poll question like this:

Do you believe that someone born with foreign citizenship, can and should be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?

I'd wager FAR more people than 1/3 would say No to such a poll question.

34 posted on 01/28/2010 3:35:35 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Frantzie

Whenever someone writes me or tells me that his birth cert. has been all over the internet, I say, “Fine, then just tell me who the birth doctor was and what hopsital he was born at.” Nobody knows, period.


35 posted on 01/28/2010 3:35:49 PM PST by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Frantzie
I dropped Beck plus all the other anti-birthers - Hewitt, Boortz the tedious bore, Ingraham (also boring), Coulter (sad but true), Medved, O’Reilly ( he is a joke) and a few others.

What do they all have in common? The FCC. The FCC works for his Highness. Threats are not below the FCC. Think of them like the IRS or ATF.

36 posted on 01/28/2010 3:38:22 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: OafOfOffice

Yeah, I had heard ole’ Doc Savage interview Phil Berg twice last year. He too has raised the issue a few times, but the timing for him appeared to be bad as he was fighting to get his name off the Britain “Terrorist” list.


37 posted on 01/28/2010 3:38:32 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

“Question - Do you believe that someone who was born with foreign citizenship is, and should be considered a natural born citizen?”

Simply put - No


38 posted on 01/28/2010 3:38:51 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: Aurorales

I haven’t trashed the issue. Perhaps this is a scenario in which the Overton Window could be used as an advantage.


39 posted on 01/28/2010 3:40:28 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: rxsid

I can’t imagine what he’s thinking or what knowledge he had prior to broaching the subject. But one quick question, what do you mean he must have been warned? Like he got some inside info? If so, what kind of info could cause him to take on the subject?


40 posted on 01/28/2010 3:42:29 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: camerongood210

I didn’t mean you yourself trashed the issue.

I meant Beck is trashing and ridiculing the issue.


41 posted on 01/28/2010 3:43:41 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: Aurorales

Nevermind. I misread what you wrote. You meant Beck was attacking the issue, not me. Sorry


42 posted on 01/28/2010 3:44:23 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: The Sons of Liberty

And there’s the flame...


43 posted on 01/28/2010 3:45:06 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: camerongood210
"“Question - Do you believe that someone who was born with foreign citizenship is, and should be considered a natural born citizen?”

Simply put - No"

Excellent. Therefore the question. How could he possibly be a NBC? Answer, he can't. Thus, we fight.

44 posted on 01/28/2010 3:50:56 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: camerongood210

No problem. I should have written it clearer.

My prayers regarding this issue have not changed. Praying for the truth to come to light. There are many people covering up something. All of them should pay for the lies and cover-ups.


45 posted on 01/28/2010 3:53:47 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: camerongood210
"But one quick question, what do you mean he must have been warned? Like he got some inside info? If so, what kind of info could cause him to take on the subject?"

In the context of my previous statement, it would seem perhaps the only reasonable explanation as to why he would openly (and multiple times) mock and potentially alienate a (undoubtedly) significant portion of his listener-ship/viewer-ship. That's not a good business decision.

As has been mentioned above here, the FCC controls the licenses of all those mentioned here. I believe it's withing the realm of possibilities that someone from the FCC (or other regulatory agency?) warned the talkers that this topic is off limits if they want to keep their licenses active and avoid some trumped up legal headaches.

46 posted on 01/28/2010 3:57:42 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
This puts Hannity and Beck in a position to recoup the suggestions of ignorance into which they have been cornered by Alinsky tactics. Hannity has announced the appearance of “potential presidential candidate Bobby Jindal” on his television show. Someone could ask Jindal if he is a “natural born citizen”. What Jindal says will not only expose Jindal, but will force the awareness of Obama’s ineligibility. Jindal could be the tool to open this can of worms. Jindal could become a goat or a hero if he were to say, “I'd love my country and would love to be president, but the U.S. Constitution requires that the office, and only that office, requires a natural born citizen, and my parents were not citizens when I was born in the U.S.” He doesn't need to attack Obama, or McCain. He needs to state the truth.

If Republican leadership chooses to ignore the clear definition chosen by our founders to help protect us from foreign intrigue they will have buried themselves. They may be afraid to talk, but now they should be afraid not to face the truth of the lies by both parties. The people may forgive the decision to let McCain take his shot, again, because of the price he paid in a prison camp, and in spite of the Keating Five and McCain Feingold, and his idiocy with regard to global warming. If they don't face the truth they will split the party because too many of us can read - Marshall, Jay, Jefferson, Washington, Waite, ... “A natural born citizen is born in the country of parents who are its citizens.” Every U.S. Senator knew this truth in 2008 when they all signed Senate Res. 511 to provide cover for McCain and silence objections to Obama’s ineligibility.

Every founder knew this definition from Vattel's Law of Nations. Thomas Jefferson created the course in Natural Law and the Law of Nations at William and Mary College in 1779 - ten years prior to 'ratification'. John Marshall and Bushrod Washington were among his students in 1780. The text, until 1841 was Vattel's. Vattel's Law of Nations was the most cited legal source in American Jurisprudence between 1789 and 1820.

47 posted on 01/28/2010 4:00:29 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: rxsid

withing the realm -> within the realm


48 posted on 01/28/2010 4:00:31 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Spaulding; Red Steel; El Gato; LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; pissant; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; ...
"Someone could ask Jindal if he is a “natural born citizen”. What Jindal says will not only expose Jindal, but will force the awareness of Obama’s ineligibility. Jindal could be the tool to open this can of worms. Jindal could become a goat or a hero if he were to say, “I'd love my country and would love to be president, but the U.S. Constitution requires that the office, and only that office, requires a natural born citizen, and my parents were not citizens when I was born in the U.S.” He doesn't need to attack Obama, or McCain. He needs to state the truth.

...

If they don't face the truth they will split the party because too many of us can read - Marshall, Jay, Jefferson, Washington, Waite, ... “A natural born citizen is born in the country of parents who are its citizens.”

...

Every founder knew this definition from Vattel's Law of Nations. Thomas Jefferson created the course in Natural Law and the Law of Nations at William and Mary College in 1779 - ten years prior to 'ratification'. John Marshall and Bushrod Washington were among his students in 1780. The text, until 1841 was Vattel's. Vattel's Law of Nations was the most cited legal source in American Jurisprudence between 1789 and 1820. "

An absolutely brilliant and spot on post Spaulding! IMHO of course.

49 posted on 01/28/2010 4:07:12 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

He mentioned Hillary giving two radical islamists entry to the US last week and he said he has asked her to speak for his removal on that Britain list. Obama would never allow that if she would. Savage speaks his mind.

But I still think it is interesting what he said about being able to speak unlike the others in talk radio who owe or have paid sponsors who control what they say.


50 posted on 01/28/2010 4:07:34 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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