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How bleak will the dark night of Medical Facism become?
The Natural Family BLOG ^ | February 22nd, 2010 | Jenny Hatch

Posted on 02/22/2010 8:28:46 AM PST by Jenny Hatch

I was just watching c-span and the host was talking with his guest about health care and the teaparty "people". Many callers took the time to share views on "what the teaparty people" think, and although none claimed to be members of this maligned crowd, it was interesting to me to have others attempting to describe who I am and what I think.

I thought I'd take a minute to share my views on health care as it relates to teaparty attendees, simply because I am a fierce teapartier and I write a health care blog.

I can't speak for others and I don't know that any of my friends who have also taken to the streets this past year feel as I do, but I want to make one point. The dark night of medical facism has been hanging as a blight over the American People for a long time. Each step that has been taken legislatively to remove our rights of self determination and place a doctor, a social worker, a pharmacist, and a judge over our bodies and minds has brought us to this place. The big question in my mind is,

How BLEAK will the dark night of Medical Facism become?

Lord knows for those parents who have children removed from their custody simply because of refusal to vaccinate, refusal to medicate with psychiatric meds, refusal to use chemo for cancer, refusal to have a newborn incarcerated in a NICU, refusal to have any doctor recomended surgery, drug, psychiatric intervention etc etc etc the bleakness has been overwhelming. Tens of thousands of families in America have learned first hand what happens when Mom or Dad says "No thanks, don't want to use the product you are selling" and that big, nasty, overpriced medical arm comes crashing down and yells, "YES YOU WILL!

Parents have lost custody of their children over and over and over again when that Medical Behemoth declares them unfit for refusal to use the services, medications, and medical devices they produce to sell to consumers. This blog is dedicated to exposing some of those abuses of power and giving parents a place to learn how to protect themselves and their children from the iantrogenic (doctor caused) abuses that seem to be attached to every drug and every medical practice, especially those around birth and psychiatric care.

As President Obama prepares to use the Delphi Technique to manipulate the Nation to his predetermined outcome of Government Run Health Care, the questions that citizens and the politicians need to ask him is this:

Do consumers have the right to say NO?

Will citizens be supported in choosing to use alternative healing as opposed to drugs and surgery when making health care decisions?

Will citizens be able to retain their sovereignty over their own bodies and minds?

Will parents be enabled to make those health care choices that they believe will give their children the best outcomes physically and emotionally? And if a Mother or a Father decides that the health care services being offered are too expensive, carry too much risk, and/or they have found alternatives that are just as good or better than the toxic brew offered at the hospital....WILL THOSE PARENTS BE SUPPORTED IN CHOOSING SOMETHING BESIDES WHAT THE DOCTOR PRESCRIBES???

For this teapartier, the ultimate principle in all of the health care debate is this:

If I don't have the right to claim sovereignty over my own body and mind, and if I as a Mother don't have the right to make health care choices for and in behalf of my children until they are old enough to make those choices for themselves, then I am already a Medical Slave and it doesn't really matter who is paying the bills.

Wether it is my husbands employer or the taxpayers paying the bills, the Medical Profession will keep chugging along, paying politicians on both sides of the isle and playing it straight down the middle legislatively. I don't think the Pharmaceutical Companies who run the Medical Schools and the Media care too much who is paying the bills. Wether the health care system is the current Medical Fascism or Complete Socialism or straight on Commuism, somebody is going to pay.

The Medical Police State will stay high up on its pedastal until we the people decide to get off our knees and learn a thing or two about how to be really healthy.

True Health, Lasting life giving fun joyful whole living health is to be found in a kernal of whole wheat, a gently birthed babe, a tummy full of mothers milk, and joyful, healthy, family life....

And the Government doesn't have a whole heck of lot to do with those things.

Jenny Hatch


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1 posted on 02/22/2010 8:28:46 AM PST by Jenny Hatch
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To: Jenny Hatch
What is "facism?"

Does it have something to do with FaceBook?

2 posted on 02/22/2010 8:30:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Jenny Hatch

“refusal to have a newborn incarcerated in a NICU”

No inflammatory wording there, nope nope.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 8:39:39 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

OMG that’s hilarious! but probably true


4 posted on 02/22/2010 8:41:45 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Well wake up Jenny Hatch and smell the “Uniform Child Abduction Prevention Act” (aka UCAPA).

It is not JUST on medical health care that the government is seeking to take control of our lives. It is across the board.

The UCAPA law they are seeking to pass this year in 8 states (and is already law in 8 states) is a big step towards totalitarian government.

Under this law, they can take your kids from you because you picked up their school records or medical records.

WATCH OUT. WAKE UP.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 8:43:04 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Jenny Hatch
I think that it is a mistake for society to demand that some people accept medical care that they do not want.

If you have an issue with chemotherapy or some extreme measure, you should be able to refuse it.
If you want to go on living as long as possible and do not want the Giant Shot Of Morphine, you should be able to refuse it.

I want to pay for my own health care, and I want to receive fair value for what I pay for. Nothing more, nothing less.

For me, the most troublesome aspect is what to do with kids that need advanced medical treatment. If the parents have reasons for wanting to refuse the treatment, I would tend to leave that in the hands of the parents rather than taking the child away and allowing the politicians to make the decision in loco parentis. But I believe that is a minority view around here.

6 posted on 02/22/2010 8:48:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I just want he Gov’t the hell out of my life. Period.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 9:19:45 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only working value of fascism I have found is “Something undesirable” esp. if its politically undesirable by the Left. Comes from Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 9:45:03 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: Little Ray
The only working value of fascism...

The OP references "facism," not "fascism."

9 posted on 02/22/2010 10:11:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Jenny Hatch
OBAMANOMICS--TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Sen. Scot Brown's number is 202-224-5443

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware

10 posted on 02/22/2010 2:16:52 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“What is “facism?”
Does it have something to do with FaceBook?”

INTERPRETATION:

You Jenny Hatch cannot spell.

Thus, you have no RIGHT, NO POSSIBLE RIGHT to participate in any discussion surrounding health care.

We the enlightened English Teaching trolls at Free Republic who have absolutely nothing of substance to offer to any intellectual argument (and who are expecting a large check from Merck Pharmaceutical at the end of the week for Trolling Services Rendered) DEMAND that you cease and desist from any further attempts to pull the blinders off the eyes of the American People. Do you have any idea the money that is at stake if the American People were to have true health freedom? The decades of infrastructure investment that my employer has put into the current medical behemoth DEMANDS that the status quo be defended and ENTRENCHED in American Society AT ANY COST...

So you just shut up you moronic cretin, only those citizens who can spell properly have ANY RIGHT to write a piece on health care issues.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJLAWXO5vY

Jenny


11 posted on 02/25/2010 8:41:21 AM PST by Jenny Hatch (Mormon Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Jenny,

If u wish 2 b taken series, u must lrn 2 spel.

Sory.


12 posted on 02/25/2010 8:48:45 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Well wake up Jenny Hatch and smell the “Uniform Child Abduction Prevention Act” (aka UCAPA).

It is not JUST on medical health care that the government is seeking to take control of our lives. It is across the board.

The UCAPA law they are seeking to pass this year in 8 states (and is already law in 8 states) is a big step towards totalitarian government.

Under this law, they can take your kids from you because you picked up their school records or medical records.”

Just for asking for copies of your childs records you can lose custody? I would love to get a link to some more information on that topic.

Jen


13 posted on 02/26/2010 7:01:16 AM PST by Jenny Hatch (Mormon Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Here is New Jersey’s Law Commision report on this law

http://www.lawrev.state.nj.us/ucapa/ucapaFR122208.pdf

Here is the Wikipedia showing the states that have passed it so far; the states that have at least temporarily defeated it,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Child_Abduction_Prevention_Act

Here are the 8 states they are seeking to pass it in this year.

http://www.breakdownofamerica.com/2010/02/13/states-at-risk-in-2010-for-the-uniform-child-abduction-prevention-act/

1 ALABAMA HB 213 Ward House Judiciary
2 HAWAII SB2192/HB2250 Tanaguchi/Karamatsu House Judiciary
3 IOWA HF 713 Senate Judiciary
4 MINNESOTA SF410/HF1133 Senate Judiciary
5 PENNSYLVANIA HB 90 Conklin House Judiciary
6 SOUTH CAROLINA SB 383 Hayes House Judiciary
7 TENNESSEE HB2995/SB3065 Woodson/DeBerry In House
8 WASHINGTON HB 1182 Goodman House Judiciary

It moved through the last House committee in Hawaii yesterday - now it goes for a full house vote.


14 posted on 02/26/2010 9:33:12 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But I believe that is a minority view around here.”

It feels like it is a minority view around here simply because Free Republic is riddled with big pharma paid trolls who show up every time someone posts ANYTHING on health care or drugs. They swarm around the thread like moskitos to stop all debate and use the very tactics used on this thread to shut people up.

I totally agree with everything else you said.

If we don’t have medical freedom we are simply slaves to the drug companies.

Jen

PS Those Big Pharma paid trolls are all over the web writing blogs, participating in chat rooms, and shouting out anyone who dissents from the party line...


15 posted on 02/26/2010 7:16:18 PM PST by Jenny Hatch (Mormon Mommy Blogger)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Thanks!

Jenny


16 posted on 02/27/2010 8:06:13 AM PST by Jenny Hatch (Mormon Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Your welcome. Help spread the word so we can stop this law before it takes root.


17 posted on 02/27/2010 9:51:40 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Jenny Hatch

Facism down the Hatch, as we say.


18 posted on 02/27/2010 9:56:13 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If u wish 2 b taken series, u must lrn 2 spel”

You are so full of hit your eyes are brown, (oh silly me I forgot the S)

Go Troll on someone else’s health care thread dumbas (look, I did it again....)


19 posted on 02/27/2010 2:16:31 PM PST by Jenny Hatch (Mormon Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch
Go Troll on someone else’s health care thread dumbas (look, I did it again....)

It's not your website.

20 posted on 02/27/2010 3:16:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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