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Ok, so Barak Hussein Obama, AKA Barry Soetoro, is not a natural born U.S. citizen, so what?

Posted on 03/28/2010 3:11:41 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8

Ok, basically, unable to sleep and this has been rolling around my head for days, and I'm increasingly annoyed by conservatives, and as pissed at liberals as I can ever recall being. If this below is true, then what? If it's bogus, I can't find it on Snopes or Truth or Fiction. If this is on those sites as bogus for God's sake someone please post where, cause the b*****d is still President, so if it's true, hmph. Maybe someone else can find it. But first things first, IF this below is true, then...???

Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro. This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

Name: Barry Soetoro Religion: Islam Nationality: Indonesian

How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America?

PART 2: In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking - that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these United States. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya, here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; barry; barrysoetoro; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; colb; impeachment; indonesia; leosoetoro; lolosoetoro; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisabirther; pelosi; soetoro
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To: real_patriotic_american

I don’t know that sending money or anything to Orly Taitz is any better than doing nothing. AFter Googling her, reading IMDB and other sites on her, while impressive as a person having multiple degrees, speaking five languages, etc so on, politically she’s gotten zero traction and some of her litigation has been conspiracy theory fodder. She’s what we call in Texas a little nuts. Is there anyone going after obama legally that doesn’t appear to have a need for Xanax or Lithium? Maybe the articles were making her sound crazy and she’s not, but she sounds a bit off the beaten path that nearly all conservative Americans would be comfortable being on.


41 posted on 03/28/2010 5:18:20 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: knarf

You know what?....Your post is an excellent example of why folks like TexasPatriot8 and myself are frustrated with conservatives.....Who cares how it was written?....So no spell check....Big deal!....We have a man who was raised Muslim, apparently born in another country, shows disdain for the American way of life and Christians sitting in The White House and all you can comment on is grammar.....That’s why liberty loving Americans are beating their heads against the wall.....No powerful conservatives tackle this obvious obstruction of Justice......


42 posted on 03/28/2010 5:19:59 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: TexasPatriot8

Goodday so it’s all just a rah rah piece done by some conservative with too much time on their hands. Great. I really despise people who make crap like this up, as though it helps anyone at any point. Totally useless. I still don’t belive obama is a citizen but it sucks that losers make crap like that up that I got in email. Morons. Thanks for the help checking that.


43 posted on 03/28/2010 5:21:13 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Paragraphs give the spittle a chance to dry.


44 posted on 03/28/2010 5:22:12 AM PDT by Grut
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To: TexasPatriot8

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

And I am sure you have seen this.....This coverup is within the last few years.....People use the same old conspiracy theory bull#### on me when I mention this.....Paint me as being a nut.....I understand where you are coming from.....This article was from a Kenyan AP report I believe, back in 2004......


45 posted on 03/28/2010 5:25:34 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: jazzlite

Thanks Jazzlite really apprecaite it. Totally agree with you. And on Beck also. Can’t recall anything I’ve ever heard him say that I disagree with. Really like him a lot. I have heard him say a lot of things I don’t like, only because I wish he was wrong because it was bad, but he was right, even though I wish he wasn’t. I wish he was wrong half the time because that would mean that things aren’t as bad as they are, but they are, and he’s right. It’s bad when you wish someone you like was wrong a lot so things wouldn’t be as bad as they are.


46 posted on 03/28/2010 5:26:15 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

the “Occidental transcript release” has been in dozens of bogus messages, many released around April 1st

I think your instincts are right on, but be wary of quoting 3rd part reports of “proof” from the internet. Someone is trying to pwn you

The US had a soft coup in January 2009 when this man was installed, and very branch of our govt, every past president of the US, and every other govt in the world, was and is, part of.

History was right. Empires never last. Even the noble ones.


47 posted on 03/28/2010 5:26:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was NOT one of America's Founding Fathers)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Check your FReep mail.


48 posted on 03/28/2010 5:27:09 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: 3722535r
Y'know wha else?

Destroy the ability to communicate intelligently and you destroy intelligence.

We have a language, and it has rules, and our founding documents are written in that language and you texters are incapable of understanding English because evrything is an abbreviation, LOL.

zero loves HIS blackberry too ... and charmed all the OTHER berry's, LOL

49 posted on 03/28/2010 5:30:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Hopefully, those State AG’s challenging Barry’s health care bill can subpoena his birth records.


50 posted on 03/28/2010 5:30:15 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: 3722535r

Crap. Yes I do remember that. And basically it means that we have that slut whore jeri ryan to thank for all of this, because she had to destroy her ex’s political career to feel better about her slutty self. obama never would have won that seat, and wouldn’t be President if not for her. Her career is in the toilet now she never even does anything. Fat lot of good it did her. And that article even calls him kenyan born obama. Lovely.


51 posted on 03/28/2010 5:32:18 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: silverleaf

Silverleaf, yes that’s why I’m always suspicious about this kind of thing and my post was condescending in parts because it made no sense that if it was that cut and dry there would still be an argument. I will never understand why conservatives create what I call “rah rah!” crap like that to stirup the crowd when it’s all just a bunch of crap. It’s not helping ANYONE. So stupid and lame and a waste of time. Especially since is really does appear obama wasn ot born in the U.S. Given that, there’s no reason to make up fluff pieces like this to try and “help”. It doesn’t help! People need to stop making up crap to try and gin up support. It hurts the effort, doesn’t help it. Thank you for your info! Really appreciate it.


52 posted on 03/28/2010 5:37:09 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

The Occidental story: fake but accurate.


53 posted on 03/28/2010 5:40:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasPatriot8

Forget Lolo Soetoro and Indonesia.

A minor cannot renounce his citizenship.

The real issue is whether he is Natural born under the laws in place at the time...and the answer is no.


54 posted on 03/28/2010 5:40:17 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Yes there’s at least 13 states AGs challenging commiecare, and I think it’s more now right? 15 or more? Never can tell now a days when corrupt people like obama get away with everything with zero accountability, but hopefully it will go before the Supreme Court and be struck down as unconstitutional as violating states rights and the other things they filed because of. Assuming it goes that far. God willing the Supreme Court won’t even get to hear it because the Congress will be won by the Republicans who will immediately vote to repeal it the day after their inauguration, and on day two, begin investigations as to whether obama is even a natural born citizen or a citizen at all. I don’t know that they’ll have that kind of stamina, even IF they win the majority, and IF they repeal commie care. So many ifs and so much to lose. :(


55 posted on 03/28/2010 5:40:36 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Have you ever heard of Paragraphs?

SO, IF that’s ALL true, what? IF this Gary Kreep guy is legit, how long does it REALLY take to prove something like this? A one plus year long investigation seems questionable.

IF all of the above is true, where are all the wealthy conservatives? Why aren’t they filing suit? There must be SOME suit that can be filed against Obama IF it’s true. Running for public office under an assumed name? Perjury; as he lied about being a citizen under oath as he took the oath of office, violating Article II of the Constitution which prohibits foreign born persons from running for President or VP.

Breach of contract, as taking the oath is a contract with the country, and if he was not born in Hawaii or the other 49 states, he’s breached that contract by flatly lying and omitting facts. There must be SOME kind of law that he could be sued over. Or at the very least, why doesn’t some rich conservative slander and libel Obama SO viciously in public about this that Obama has to sue them for slander and libel, then have it proven in court that Obama is not a citizen.

The lack of a slander and libel suit would prove to illustrate that someone is telling the truth, since only a total moron would sue someone for libel and/or slander KNOWING they’re really telling the truth, since the suit would verify the claims and put them on the record as factual. Why doesn’t Limbaugh, or Perot, or ANYONE, someone with both conservative convictions, a platform, and money to back it up, file suit and be done with all the rhetoric and bulls**t. I am 100% behind the Tea Party movement and have been solidly conservative politically since long before I could vote, but at the same time, as a 38 year old parent of two, I am beyond sick of the bulls**t.

If the b*****d is lying and is not a citizen, why don’t the people wiht the money and platform to take it on, DO IT and stop talking about it! ALL conservatives with money and a voice do is TALK TALK TALK! Where’s the f*****g action? I have no money for that. I have no voice or platform to do it. All I have is my family which liberal extremists would easily target and destroy if someone like me does this. But there are plenty of rich powerful conservative who are immune to that kind of thing because of their money and power and positions.

Yet all they do is run their mouths. Where’s the action? This man is 16 months into his term as Premier, or President, whichever you prefer to call him, and has just used that office to pass Commiecare, the most horrible debt making socialistic takeover of industry and violation of the Constitution in the nation’s history. Makes Social Security look like McCarthyism. Give the clear evidence that Obama is a flat out socialist, not even conservative to be an extreme liberal, where’s the wealthy powerful conservative people the past year using the legal system to remove Obama from office and put an end to this?

Please explain how it’s not as simple as getting a conservative Judge to issue a subpoena to be served at the White House demanding Obama provide an original certified copy of his birth certificate, or be held in contempt and go from there. The President is not immune to being held in contempt of court for violating a court order. Especially if there’s reason to believe he’s in violation of Article II of the Constitution by holding the office. So all this rah rah conservative bulls**t tells me one of two things. Either Obama is a citizen but him and all his people are simply the stupidest effers on the face of the Earth for not putting it to rest long ago, OR, he’s not a citizen and not a single conservative person with money and a platform to be heard has the b***s to stand up, file suit against Obama, and do something about it.

Either way I’m totally disgusted and fed up with all the talking and b******g and moaning, and the total absence of someone filing suit and doing something that actually matters, putting their butt on the line instead of just talking about it. Because all the talk in the world will simply get us two and a half more years of commiebama, give or take ANOTHER four after that, and we won’t even frikkin recognize the damn country when he finally leaves.

So what? Where’s the damn law suits instead of all the damn talk? Are there any conservatives with money that can do more than talk? Cause I’m not seeing them. And I’m so far beyond disgusted seeing what this country is turning into I don’t even know what to do anymore. This isn’t the same country my family has fought in every war since the Revolution anymore.

Not the country my father fought for. And from what I see, voting for the most conservative candidates I could for 20 years, and campaigning and volunteering before and after voting has done exactly squat when I see the state of the nation. So, if Obama’s not a citizen, so what? cause no one is doing a damn thing about it but talk. And talk is like taking a dump. Everyone can do it and it deosn’t matter.


56 posted on 03/28/2010 5:41:52 AM PDT by calex59
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To: 9YearLurker

Fake but accurate, that’s a perfect way to put it. Rah rah piece, while it’s not true by itself, it’s point is valid and factual.


57 posted on 03/28/2010 5:42:28 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

I just do not understand it either. I ask myself, where are all the patriots?

There are enough wealthy conservatives around that if they REALLY loved the country that made their wealth possible, they could put together tens of millions of dollars and barely miss it.

I just do not get it. America has been stolen and is being destroyed by those who hate it and it seems there are only a few of us who really care.

I do not know how it can be done but America must be saved. There are no more frontiers, there is no new place to go start over.

Everyone seems to have so much hope for the November elections. Those in control now have no sense of fair play, honesty and truthfulness are an unknown concept to them. They will pull every dirty low down, underhanded trick in the book to win. If November goes wrong, we are toast.


58 posted on 03/28/2010 5:42:37 AM PDT by reagan4palin
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To: TexasPatriot8

Here is one lawsuit that has not been shot down YET!

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


59 posted on 03/28/2010 5:42:37 AM PDT by shadow2
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To: calex59
calex, if you'd of read through the thread you'd of seen I mentioned that I was up at 4 in the morning when the 7 mo old woke up and I couldn't get back to sleep, and was just typing what was on my mind, putting the text in paragraphs but I forgot the html page breaks. I was thinking about what I was saying not html.

While paragraphs are important, I would hope people recognize the content of what I'm trying to say is more important than the format. And yes I am pretty familiar with paragraphs. Through school and college, essays, research papers, dissertations, and a book I wrote. I was just tired and sleepy and forgot html page break, ok? My chops have been adequately busted over it. It's not the end of the world. obama might be though, but not my lack of paragraph breaks.

60 posted on 03/28/2010 5:46:56 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (We can't afford Obama. We can't afford a socialist muslim sympathizer as President. Boy was I right.)
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