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The Poop Nazis - "No Cans for You!!" (Colorado Spring City Council retaliates for TABOR)
My Camera ^ | 23 May 2010 | LomanBill

Posted on 05/23/2010 10:59:36 AM PDT by LomanBill

In retaliation for Citizen's cutting up the City Council's "2C" no-limit General Budget Credit Card, the Fearless Leaders of Colorado Springs have stopped watering/maintaining city parks... and removed trashcans.
No Cans for You!
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Poopid is as Poopid does.
Poopid is as Poopid does.
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1 posted on 05/23/2010 10:59:36 AM PDT by LomanBill
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To: LomanBill
We stopped the can thing years ago...Take your litter with you!! Where's the problem??

Why not just create a Town Dump near the park....and kill two birds with one stone.

2 posted on 05/23/2010 11:02:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: LomanBill

I guess it hasn’t occurred to them to look at their budget and figure out where they really spend most of the taxpayer’s money?


3 posted on 05/23/2010 11:03:38 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: LomanBill

Love it. Now fire a bunch of city workers and their bosses.


4 posted on 05/23/2010 11:04:12 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: LomanBill
So the story is that the City Council members used to have magic credit cards, courtesy of the city, and now that they've been revoked the City Council is punishing the citizens by not giving dog-walkers free poop disposal?

Sounds like a good deal for the citizens, to me.

5 posted on 05/23/2010 11:04:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: LomanBill

I do not see any problem with expecting people to pick up their own messes and clean up after themselves.


6 posted on 05/23/2010 11:06:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: LomanBill

That’s no big deal and is a way to save money ... people should take care of things themselves. Why have the government “picking up after you” ... :-)


7 posted on 05/23/2010 11:07:26 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LomanBill

Get even with them. It’s no problem to carry your poop bag out with you. Get volunteers to keep the weeds down to a manageable level and do without the councils input. When is elections? Vote the all out.


8 posted on 05/23/2010 11:11:30 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Illegal is not a race, it is a crime)
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To: pnh102
I do not see any problem with expecting people to pick up their own messes and clean up after themselves.

You're right, there is no problem with that. However lots of people don't see it your way and will leave their poops.......

If there wasn't a poop problem in the first place it's quite likely that the cans would never have been put there......

9 posted on 05/23/2010 11:11:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Star Traveler
>>Why have the government “picking up after you” ... :-)
 
Ah..  exactomundo Star Traveler... you beat me to it...
 
 
"Pack it in, Pack it out" some folks were taught to do that... long before the Colorado Springs City Council put it on a sign.
 
Which begs the question, WHY were some folks NOT taught to do that; and taught instead that they should rely upon government employees to pick up after them and do what good Americans should have been doing in the first place?  Hmmmm...
 
 

10 posted on 05/23/2010 11:12:06 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
However lots of people don't see it your way and will leave their poops.......

Indeed. But that's what chain gangs are for.

11 posted on 05/23/2010 11:13:44 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: LomanBill

If they cannot maintain them, force the government to sell them.


13 posted on 05/23/2010 11:18:31 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: mamelukesabre
Love it. Now fire a bunch of city workers and their bosses.

Government is not about solutions...They are about making government bigger, and developing ways and new strategies to take more money from you.

14 posted on 05/23/2010 11:20:37 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: mamelukesabre
Love it. Now fire a bunch of city workers and their bosses.

Interesting thought.

Now that they are not watering the parks and empty the trash cans those who used to do the watering no longer are needed to do those jobs.

Did they fire them or are they still on the payroll. Enquiring minds want to know.

If not, why not?!

15 posted on 05/23/2010 11:36:55 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: LomanBill

They tried that in our area also.

I have no problem packing the bags with my dogs’ poop out of the park, but they stink up the car when I take them home.

The cost for a trashcan that is emptied every few days is not that much.

The politicians need to cut somewhere else. Their salaries for instance.

I suggest we pack all those bags of poop right down to city hall and let them know how we are going to vote...


16 posted on 05/23/2010 11:39:01 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

They always try to cut the most visible things and hide the pork.


17 posted on 05/23/2010 11:47:10 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: LomanBill

Wow! It’s rare to see someone using PBase for photo hosting.


18 posted on 05/23/2010 11:48:59 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Hot Tabasco; McGavin999; Star Traveler; pnh102; dragnet2; mamelukesabre; ...
>>Sounds like a good deal for the citizens, to me.
 
The dead wood is definately being exposed as the pond level drops.   Problem is they haven't cut personel- just reasigned them to projects for building new infrasture....   while leaving pot-holes unfilled (bad Voters, Baaaaad..... clunk clunk).
 
;-}
 
The same Fearless Leaders are funding a 2..3+ Billion Dollar expansion of government infrastructure via a water project (SDS).. to enable the City's developer cabal to McSprawl its way East toward the Kansas border.   Without this water, the Development Cabal can't get permits to build.  Their access to the required resources is not being paid for out of their own profits - but via increased water rates ala the City-owned Utility "Enterprise".
 
The Rate increases are being rubber stamped by the Utility Board.... which is also, coinkidinkly, the City Council.
 
Quack Waddle - TAX.   And a violation of the Spirit, if not the Letter, of TABOR - which requires voter approval of new taxes.
 
 
Additionaly, the development Cabal wants to change the City Charter to form a "Strong Mayor" / council structure.
 
The chief reason - "We need a charismatic STRONG LEADER who can SELL TAX INITIATIVES BETTER"!  LOL.   More taxes, for more infrastructure, for more development.... in addition to the infrastructure that we can't afford to maintain ALREADY.
 
If their antics weren't so expensive... they might be funny.  (Well, they're funny anyhow... but they're still expensive.)
 
Oh and BTW, the Chief Puppet, the Mayor... is a R.I.N.O.:
 
"Mr. Rivera is employed by UBS PaineWebber as a Financial Advisor and hold the title of Vice President-Investments. He has been employed as a financial advisor for over 15 years."
Lionel Rivera Announces His Candidacy for Mayor of Colorado Springs


"We are all screwed unless the 16 million dollar issue is resolved!" Assistant City Manager Mike Anderson wrote to LandCo Chairman Ray Marshall in a Nov. 25, 2008, e-mail, whose subject line was, "URGENT - NEED TO MEET."
"USOC deal was in trouble early"


Brodie, James W LandCO Properties/President $2,100 LIONEL RIVERA FOR CONGRESS - REPUBLICAN P 03/21/2006
Cisco, Christopher L LandCO Properties/Business Developm $2,100 LIONEL RIVERA FOR CONGRESS - REPUBLICAN P 03/21/2006
Dylewski, Gary R LandCO Properties/Developer $2,100 LIONEL RIVERA FOR CONGRESS - REPUBLICAN P 03/21/2006
Marshall, R. L LandCO Properties/Chairman $2,100 LIONEL RIVERA FOR CONGRESS - REPUBLICAN P 03/22/2006
Raider, Michael G LandCO Properties/COO $2,100 LIONEL RIVERA FOR CONGRESS - REPUBLICAN P 03/22/2006
 
 
And yes... we WILL vote them out...
 
But my guess is some of the Cabal members, having milked the A$$Paper gravy train dry, are upside down financially... and are thus grasping at whatever they can to keep the kleptocracy afloat - so this isn't over by any means... just the beginning.

19 posted on 05/23/2010 11:53:21 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

If you can carry it in then carry it out was always the philosophy we had hiking and camping in the Colorado mountains back in the ‘60s and ‘70s.

Maybe it is time to expect people to be responsible for their own messes again?


20 posted on 05/23/2010 11:54:35 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: LomanBill

Pack it in — pack it out.

Good concept. However, a lot of people won’t do it.


21 posted on 05/23/2010 11:54:45 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: Pontiac; mamelukesabre

>>Did they fire them or are they still on the payroll.

Not as far as we’ve been told.

Of course the piggies in the farmhouse are screaming “Talent is leaving the city in droves”.

Good riddence to them... if true.


22 posted on 05/23/2010 11:57:54 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: CurlyDave

[The politicians need to cut somewhere else. Their salaries for instance.]

In Colorado Springs, it’s not politician salaries that are the problem - but the unelected Developer cabal that has had a stranglehold on the city for many, many years.

Little Chicago / Little London... are the city nicknames.


23 posted on 05/23/2010 12:01:08 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Eagle Eye
[Maybe it is time to expect people to be responsible for their own messes again?]
 
Yep. 
 
And when the city goes bankrupt in the next couple years - "NO BAILOUT FOR YOU", even more kleptocratic dead wood will be exposed.   By that time, we citizens had better be prepared to do a whole lot more than pull weeds in the park.
 
 
 
A Significant measure of the "Mess" originates from the cozy/kleptocratic relationship the local development cabal has with City Government:
 
http://www.pbase.com/wm25burke/cshousingauth

24 posted on 05/23/2010 12:08:28 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: raybbr

>>Wow! It’s rare to see someone using PBase for photo hosting.

It works. It’s reasonably inexpensive and reliable... and I’m too cheap/lazy to set up a server and host it myself... which I would do if I were going to do photography as a business again.


25 posted on 05/23/2010 12:15:01 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: smokingfrog

>>a lot of people won’t do it.

Dirty baby diapers on Southern California beaches certainly attest to that.

Even before the Trash Can drama, some folks here actually bagged their dogpoop... and then left it on the trails for somebody else to pick up.... in the bag.

It is what it is... but it’s especially annoying when one of those little dung bombs/mines is ridden over while mountain biking.


26 posted on 05/23/2010 12:21:01 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

I use PBase too. It’s just so unusual to click on a pic and have it go there. And, yes, it is cheap.


27 posted on 05/23/2010 12:23:20 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: LomanBill

Ever wonder why every state, city, town, etc. has laws for cleaning up dog poop but when a horse goes by and leaves a pile no one complains?


28 posted on 05/23/2010 12:24:32 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: LomanBill

My step-son lives in Colorado Springs and says many of their services have been cut or eliminated- says it is very dark at night due to few street lights.


29 posted on 05/23/2010 12:26:34 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: pnh102

“I do not see any problem with expecting people to pick up their own messes and clean up after themselves.”

You would be amazed at the number of ‘special’ people who refuse to pick up their dog’s poop. Add to that the number of ‘immigrants’ who just leave their garbage in the park. When you confront them they get irate.


30 posted on 05/23/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: LomanBill

The Developer Cabal should be a little short on cash these days- and pretty busy trying to just stay afloat. Now is the time to get rid of them, attack them while they are weak and take back your city.


31 posted on 05/23/2010 12:51:31 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: mamelukesabre

I’ve been working on a small earth moving device that I think would allow them, and all city governments, in fact, to cut their public maintenance manpower costs by at least 60%. They could easily replace 3 of every 5 workers with this one device, at a one time, up front cost of about $250. It is a shovel that will stand upright by itself, thus eliminating the need for all those extra hands around the worksite. I could use a little help in selling the idea and am willing to offer franchises to anyone who can front me enough to hire a good grant writer.


32 posted on 05/23/2010 12:59:46 PM PDT by jstaff
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To: dljordan

Hell with picking up dog poop. I don’t do that. I figure if you live someplace where there’s not enough nature to handle a little dog crap then you shouldn’t have a dog.


33 posted on 05/23/2010 1:15:06 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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34 posted on 05/23/2010 1:22:12 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: OwenKellogg

My dog would lift it’s leg on that sign.


35 posted on 05/23/2010 1:29:47 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Eagle Eye
Maybe it is time to expect people to be responsible for their own messes again?

I've always had that expectation just as I've always expected our laws to put an end to random violence, robberies, murders......etc, etc.....

Here's and idea tho. If poop is a problem, just as throwaway beer cans and bottles were a litter problem until there was a deposit placed on them, offer a per pound payment of all poops gathered up and brought to a certified poop reimbursement center..........

There is an employee at my local Meijer shopping center who advertises on his truck that he will do doggie poop duty at your house for $8 per week.........

36 posted on 05/23/2010 1:50:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: LomanBill
Of course the piggies in the farmhouse are screaming “Talent is leaving the city in droves”.

Yes isn’t it terrible, we all know how hard it is to find good grass waterers and garbage can emptiers.

37 posted on 05/23/2010 2:41:42 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: dljordan
You would be amazed at the number of ‘special’ people who refuse to pick up their dog’s poop. Add to that the number of ‘immigrants’ who just leave their garbage in the park. When you confront them they get irate.

While I generally think cops should be going after hardened criminals, there is something bad about leaving parkland trashed. It'd be nice if a cop saw such behavior and dispensed some justice.

38 posted on 05/23/2010 2:46:37 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: LomanBill

It makes me wonder how much the signs cost, how much they paid for someone to put them up and who paid for it LOL.


39 posted on 05/23/2010 2:50:32 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: mamelukesabre

“I figure if you live someplace where there’s not enough nature to handle a little dog crap then you shouldn’t have a dog.”

So how many acres should a person have before he’s allowed to own a dog?


40 posted on 05/23/2010 5:56:30 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: dljordan

How should I know? I don’t pick up dog crap. If you find yourself picking up dog crap, maybe you should trade your dog in for a gerbil.


41 posted on 05/23/2010 6:11:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: raybbr

>>when a horse goes by and leaves a pile no one complains...

...or likely realizes horse manure contains pathogens that cause gas-gangrene and tetanus.


42 posted on 05/24/2010 5:42:33 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Tammy8

>>it is very dark at night due to few street lights.

Fine with me. I’m not afraid of the dark.

Thing is, they’ve shut of the lights... but evidently not the city employees who maintained them.


43 posted on 05/24/2010 5:53:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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