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Poll: If Obama Imposes the U.N. Gun Ban On America... (55% choose Revolution)
United States of Earth ^ | June 12, 2010 | N/A

Posted on 07/20/2010 7:36:49 AM PDT by DTogo

If Obama Imposes the U.N. Gun Ban On America, Which Would Dissolve Our Bill Of Rights And Orders Gun Confiscation What Will You Do?

The new United Nations Treaty is being designed to disarm citizens of each nation that signs. The treaty will give all governments a free hand to do as they please. It is making headway in Washington D.C. and it is feared that President Obama may very well try to use the treaty to consolidate his power in America. The treaty specifics are now being negotiated and Obama has given the OK For the U.S. to be a part of the negotiations.

As of June 2010 Obama supports the soon to be written treaty, which would end our Bill of Rights and destroy the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment has been the crucial amendment that is there to guard against tyranny.

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To: 556x45
funny thing is, those pissed off dems are so reactionary that theyd lynch em all, well before a conservative got to em...

maybe thats our best course of action, let em kill each other, then we just pick off the survivors...??? 8^}

61 posted on 07/20/2010 8:49:10 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

You might want to start now while you can.


62 posted on 07/21/2010 3:05:19 AM PDT by Mayhem
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To: Seruzawa
Er, yes, Obama can just enforce a UN gun ban with the stroke of a pen.

He's arrogant enough to try.

63 posted on 07/21/2010 10:25:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: DTogo
Article VI, read it and stand corrected.

Treaties do not ammend the Constitution. Here is the relevant part of Art. 6. Only those who are grammatically challenged believe that it says they can.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The phrase " any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." means (the Constitution or Laws of any State) not (the Constitution) or (Laws of any State).

It's just saying that the Constitution, which is referred to as "this Constitution" everywhere within itself when the federal Constitution is meant, except in specifying the Presidential Oath, and that says "the Constitution of the United States", is supreme over state constitutions and state laws. Treaties are also supreme over them.

64 posted on 07/21/2010 10:37:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: no-s
Should the troubles come to pass, you'll be prepared to defend your opinions

And it they don't, shooting is still a lot of fun. So get armed, trained, and practiced.

65 posted on 07/21/2010 10:39:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Vendome
Using their contorted logic they would only need 2/3rds of the votes cast, not 2/3rds of the entire Senate.(Not Constitutional

Actually, it is.

From Art. 2 Section. 2.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur (where He, means the President).

66 posted on 07/21/2010 10:44:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Vendome
The best they might do is 62 but they would still fall short and I have my doubts about finding even 50 votes.

50 would be enough if only 75 Senators were present. Could happen, O-dark thirty session they "forget" to tell the "nays" about. (it's 2/3 of those present,not 2/3 +1). Under Art. 1 Sec. 5 it requires a majority to be present or 51 Senators, present to constitute a quorum to do business, in which case as few as 34 votes would do it.

Of course there would be Hell to Pay, and I'd hope many here would be Collecting the payment.

67 posted on 07/21/2010 10:52:57 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Dayman
We do not seek to revolt. We seek a counter revolution. Explosives might be needed, but a nation of rifleman, or just a small fraction of a nation, would take the fight to the real enemies. See FReeper Travis McGee's (Matt Braken) "Enemies" novels.
68 posted on 07/21/2010 11:05:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Dayman
Also see Unintended Consequences, a novel by John Ross. It's probably a better illustration of the basic principle.
69 posted on 07/21/2010 11:29:20 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: DTogo; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
Searched and didn't see this previously posted. Interesting website, on first glance.

The results of the poll were previously published and FReepposted from another website, but I suspect that we'll be seeing it again.

Accordingly: CWII ping

70 posted on 07/22/2010 11:19:19 AM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: DTogo; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
Searched and didn't see this previously posted. Interesting website, on first glance.

The results of the poll were previously published and FReepposted from another website, but I suspect that we'll be seeing it again.

Accordingly: CWII ping

71 posted on 07/22/2010 11:19:33 AM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: archy

With the recent SCOTUS decisions, this would be a bridge too far. The blowback would be ugly.


72 posted on 07/22/2010 11:28:25 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: DTogo

Implementing/imposing is one thing, enforcing is another.


73 posted on 07/22/2010 11:40:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MileHi
With the recent SCOTUS decisions, this would be a bridge too far. The blowback would be ugly.

Indeed. Something similar happened in Finland when the Socialists in power there overreached in 1918.

It lasted for but four months, but after that bloodletting, the Finns had lost about 1% of their nation's population. In comparison, it took us over four years of our own civil warfare battling from 1861 to 1865 to manage around a 2% national casualty rate.

Of course in Finland, only about a fourth of those were what we'd call combat casualties. The rest froze or starved to death in prison camps, were summarily shot or hanged, or were bayonetted by previously unbloodied rookies to give them a little firsthand introduction to their new trade.

Our current population is around 330 million people. You can figure out for yourself what 1% of that would be.


74 posted on 07/22/2010 12:09:35 PM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: archy
Our current population is around 330 million people. You can figure out for yourself what 1% of that would be.

Yes I can. A good chunk of the Dems base...

75 posted on 07/22/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Obama: “ Senate? We no need no steenking Senate!!”


76 posted on 07/22/2010 12:40:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: El Gato

My hogs need feeding...

BTW, I need to buy some ammo off ya soon...Might need a few boxes of .45/70 too, if you have some...thats my fun gun...hehehe


77 posted on 07/22/2010 12:45:29 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

A day late and a dollar short.

If you wait until then, you will be SOL!


78 posted on 07/22/2010 3:22:37 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Vendome

They don’t need 2/3. They only need 2/3 of senators PRESENT at the time of the vote.

think about it.


79 posted on 07/22/2010 3:26:40 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2555804/posts?page=48#48


80 posted on 07/22/2010 3:31:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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