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On Segregation: Governor Haley Barbour vs. Governor Mike Huckabee
www.caffeinatedthoughts.com ^ | December 25, 2010 | David Shedlock

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:38:42 AM PST by grassboots.org

We Want White Tenants in Our White CommunityMississippi Governor Haley Barbour recently put his foot in his mouth as all potential presidential candidates do from time to time. His gaffe, which shows up in a Weekly Standard feature article, consisted of two parts.

The first part of the goof was concerning racial segregation where Barbour says “I just don't remember it being that bad”. The author of the story, Andrew Ferguson, gave his take on Barbour’s remark:

"I don't think that he meant segregation wasn't that bad. I think he meant that it didn't roil the town the way some people might think it did." He added: "I get the sense that [Barbour] himself was just kind of oblivious. He was a fun loving football player, probably chasing skirts and all that."

Ferguson said he got a similar sense from others he spoke to in Yazoo City. "No one I talked to would defend segregation or anything like that -- it just didn't impinge on their consciousness the way it does ours in retrospect."

I think moderate and conservative blacks are offended not by bad policy decisions but for white failure to see how bad it was in the Jim Crow days. Some of us just don’t get it. It ought to “impinge on our consciousnesses”.

Whites often don’t gain respect from blacks on the issue of race. Whites mistakenly think they must hold liberal policy positions. Liberals think they must talk down to them. Admittedly liberals get by with racially dim-witted comments and pay no price: Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid are prime examples of the phenomenon. White Democratic politicians are never going to get the scrutiny for these racially tinged comments, just as Bill Clinton could get away...

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: haleybarbour; mikehuckaee; racialpolitics; segregation
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This is my blog post and I am a supporter of Huckabee's, though I am open to being persuaded by other points of view.

Grassboots.org (David Shedlock)

1 posted on 12/27/2010 10:38:53 AM PST by grassboots.org
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I can’t see how anyone could be a supporter of the Huckster. He is as phony as can be. The only good thing about him is that he is pro-life which is my number one issue but he is horrible pretty much everywhere else especially fiscal areas.


2 posted on 12/27/2010 10:42:35 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Anybody that would supporting that lying huckleberry doesn't need to be persuaded, they need electric shock therapy
3 posted on 12/27/2010 10:43:55 AM PST by org.whodat
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I really haven’t looked into specifics on the Huckster’s positions and policies, but there’s something about him I don’t trust. I’ll admit it’s just my gut feelings, but I’ve found I’m usually right about these things. I’m more than willing to listen to any pro or con opinions of him, but something about Huck doesn’t ring true to me.


4 posted on 12/27/2010 10:47:17 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: grassboots.org

Blogpimp, teapot tempest, race card up the sleeve alert.


5 posted on 12/27/2010 10:47:28 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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This is my blog post and I am a supporter of Huckabee's, though I am open to being persuaded by other points of view.

You're either a brave man or a fool by admitting that around here...

Huckabee backed cap-and-trade in 2007

Video

BTW, Huck's people have been behind much of the slime being hurled at Sarah Palin from within the GOP.

6 posted on 12/27/2010 10:51:48 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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Hucklebuck should be wearing a plaid suit and selling used cars out of some shack in the low rent district of town. Beyond him being a shyster though, granting clemency to Maurice Clemmons, so he could rape children and murder police officers, disqualifies him from consideration for any position requiring public trust. He shouldn't even be allowed on television. The Huckster is scum.
7 posted on 12/27/2010 10:56:36 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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There are scores of other issues I agree with Huckabee on including the Fair Tax, his view of the UN, his approach to health care (he is the only candidate I know of that has completely rejected the pre-existing condition coverage mandate), he was against TARP from the beginning, and of course, the stimulus packages.

I don’t agree with everything he supports (I do think he accepts government solutions when private ones would be better, for example).

But I am still waiting for the candidate with the same priorities and principals as Huckabee. Please make a recommendation.


8 posted on 12/27/2010 11:04:02 AM PST by grassboots.org
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To: org.whodat

That is what I always appreciate from the opponents of Huckabee, a good thoughtful post in response to the original premise (in this example, the blogpost above).


9 posted on 12/27/2010 11:05:30 AM PST by grassboots.org
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Well I think that Jim DeMint is good. I also think that Michelle Bachmann should be at least Vice President. Sarah is good. She will be tested here soon. Regardless of who runs, I CAN’T WAIT for the debates. They should be something if not entertaining.


10 posted on 12/27/2010 11:09:47 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Brave or foolhardy, it has to be done.

The people who have been sliming Palin are Romney backers, they hate Huck as much as Palin (Rove and company)


11 posted on 12/27/2010 11:10:07 AM PST by grassboots.org
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Huckbee is a two face liar, you only need to read his original support for the dream act and for paying illegals way in college to understand the man is a fraud. You don't even need to get into the stupid ass pardons. etc, etc.
12 posted on 12/27/2010 11:10:32 AM PST by org.whodat
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I know in your hatred you hope that repeating the Clemmons story will get the job done, but citing it does not make it as nasty you display. Clemmons got a sentence way out of line with his crimes. Others made the decision to release him after many more problems.


13 posted on 12/27/2010 11:13:23 AM PST by grassboots.org
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I could easily vote for Demint or Bachmann.


14 posted on 12/27/2010 11:15:26 AM PST by grassboots.org
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Heh...

Palin Backers Suspect Huckabee Loyalists on Joe Miller Staff Behind E-Mail Leak

15 posted on 12/27/2010 11:29:42 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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The last thing we need is a nanny-wanna-be Gomer Pyle as Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces. Add him to the Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, “hell no” list. He wanted to regulate pretty much everything in Arkansas and was little better than Clinton, just a different letter behind his name.


16 posted on 12/27/2010 11:37:50 AM PST by mnehring
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You just sense the same thing I do about Huck.

The guy is oily. I hear him talking and I grab my watch to make sure it’s still there, if you know what I mean.

He comes from the same “Arkansas Slick” school as Bubba.

A conman is not what we need with all the problems we have.


17 posted on 12/27/2010 11:49:04 AM PST by Scanian
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There is also a video of Huck as a fat governor of Arkansas addressing the legislature in which he tells them that he thinks tax hikes are just fine and that he has no problem with high spending.


18 posted on 12/27/2010 11:54:27 AM PST by Scanian
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I know in your hatred you hope that repeating the Clemmons story will get the job done, but citing it does not make it as nasty you display

Where do people like you come from? Do you intentionally ignore the facts because they don't fit well with the pro-Huckabee agenda you wish to promote? Are you one of those folks who thinks violent offenders can be rehabilitated so you willingly release these monsters back into society?

From Michelle Malkin:

Clemmons got a sentence way out of line with his crimes.

Let's look att he facts you wish to ignore. This is from a 2004 article in the Arkansas Ledger:

Link

There's more:

"Via the Arkansas Times blog, here’s a 1998 court document from Arkansas detailing some of Clemmons’ criminal history and courtroom threats — including hiding a hinge in his sock that he intended to use as a weapon against a judge and extracting a lock from a jail cell that he threw at his mother during court proceedings:"

This disaster is just one of Huckabee’s ill-considered clemency legacies.

Remember Wayne Dumond?

Again, via the Arkansas Times circa 2005 — a closer look at how Huckabee tried to evade responsibility for setting a convicted rapist free…only to rape again:

Huckabee is a liar. He's a con man. He's responsible for the unnecessary deaths of many innocent people. He's scum. Why you insist on defending scum like Huckabee is a mystery.

19 posted on 12/27/2010 12:16:11 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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The only controversy is that manufactured by the MSM and vomited up by every talking head and blog pimp.

Haley spoke of his PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND RECOLLECTIONS.

I recall when my school was integrated. A couple of knuckleheads wanted to cause problems for the black kids. A couple of dozen football players put a stop too. No violence; things worked out just fine. Sound familiar?

The Huckster?? Really?


20 posted on 12/27/2010 12:19:47 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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