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Rove and O'Reilly equate "birthers" with "truthers" (ho-hum vanity)
February 16, 2011 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 02/16/2011 6:17:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp

O'Reilly began a segment tonight by saying that he did not believe the recent poll that showed that 51% of likely GOP primary voters didn't believe that Obama was born in HI. He offered up a different poll showing that 58% of Americans believed Obama was born in HI.

Rove came on and after admitting that Obama could end the birth certificate controversy immediately by simply releasing his birth records, Rove said the controversy benefited Obama.

Then both O'Reilly and Rove equated "birthers" with "truthers" and Ron Paul supporters and said they were on the Tea Party and GOP fringe.

When Rove said he was satisfied that Obama was born in HI and started to refer to the newspaper birth announcements, O'Reilly butted in and said (IIRC) "You got that from me. We broke that here first. We investigated that."


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bor; certifigate; idiotsall; morons; naturalborncitizen; obama; oreilly; rove
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To: Seizethecarp

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

Both parties suck!

O’Reilly sucks too!

And so does Rove! Big time!


21 posted on 02/16/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Boob and Boob’s opinion mean nothing to me any more.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 6:38:11 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; ...

Ping......................

Gregory and Matthews got BORing and Rove to do their bidding and they think that the MSM 0b0z0ids will love them as reasonable pundits with GRAVITAS!

I think gravitass is more like it!


23 posted on 02/16/2011 6:39:33 PM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Seizethecarp
There are distinct differences between birthers and truthers:
  1. Military aircraft did not destroy Obama's birth records
  2. There were no explosives found in the basement of the FactCheck.org office
  3. Cell phones and blackberries do indeed operate at the the elevation the White House is located
  4. George W. Bush is not Obama's father
  5. Gold was not found missing under Obama's pillow
  6. Unlike 9/11 conspiracies, there is only one person involved and is to blame for this fiasco: Obama himself

24 posted on 02/16/2011 6:40:19 PM PST by devattel
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To: Seizethecarp
these idiots (Rove,BOR) think people that speculate in the face of intentionally withheld information and then seek answers i.e. "birthers" are the same as the nut-jobs that formulate "facts" based on no evidence.. .i.e. so called "truthers"

It is incumbent upon the person who runs for President to pass muster. . .He needs to prove his eligibility, not us.

25 posted on 02/16/2011 6:43:02 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks
O'Fatty claims to Rove about the newspaper announcements: "You got that from me. We broke that here first. We investigated that."

No. As Fred Nerks posted on FR on July 02, 2009,

Texas Darlin’ posted about these announcement back in July 2008. Here note about the announcement:

*The birth announcement was tracked down by Lori Starfelt, the producer of a documentary that PUMA is working on. READ the comments below for in-depth explanations from Lori about the announcement.
O'Fatty's such a numb-nutz blowhard.
26 posted on 02/16/2011 6:45:26 PM PST by bvw
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To: dynachrome

This is what happens when the liberal media is in charge and refutes any examination of evidence. Too bad, we no longer have an investigative arm that is non-government. Seems that FOX is joining the fray...


27 posted on 02/16/2011 6:46:14 PM PST by Deagle (t)
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To: devattel
“Truthers” hold to their beliefs, in spite of overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary.

“Birthers” have been presented with no hard evidence to contradict their beliefs, or dispel their doubts — even though that evidence is readily available to Obama.

28 posted on 02/16/2011 6:47:23 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Seizethecarp

Heard an interesting theory on the Medved show this afternoon. The reason there is no birth certificate in Hawaii is that he was born in Seattle. It is hidden because his backstory is a fantasy. His mother and father were never married, and the only relationship was between the sheets. The whole “Dreams of My Father” is all BS. His father just knocked up his mother and that is all there is to it.


29 posted on 02/16/2011 6:51:43 PM PST by gusty
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To: Seizethecarp

As though we all watched his birth on live TV, but some of us think it was faked.


30 posted on 02/16/2011 6:52:08 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: bvw

they are counting on us having short memories, aren’t they?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2283836/posts?page=106#106

(Just what did factcheck ‘validate’? Electronic images sent by e-mail to two websites by anonymous posters? And the texasdarlin entry that speaks of Lori Starfelt has gone...!)


31 posted on 02/16/2011 6:54:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
USFRIENDINVICTORIA said:

“Truthers” hold to their beliefs, in spite of overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary. “Birthers” have been presented with no hard evidence to contradict their beliefs, or dispel their doubts — even though that evidence is readily available to Obama.

That I know. I was being sarcastic as to the overwhelming similarities.
32 posted on 02/16/2011 6:55:33 PM PST by devattel
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To: Seizethecarp
..not to equate swift boat veterans of the Viet Nam war to us "birthers" but BOR maligned the VN vets in 2004 to curry favor with John Kerry; he wanted Kerry on his show -- as it turned out, BOR and Kerry are friends I believe.

BOR needs access to the Obama Administration.. he has to use every opportunity to kowtow to Obama and "keep on truckling" for the sake of his business.

Despite his laughable "no spin" claim he is a whirling dervish of vigorous chanting and ecstatic devotion to his business and his ruling class friends.

I am sure BOR liked this little plea in song from a Beetle back in the VN war days, for this "birther" it don't get no simpler..

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

33 posted on 02/16/2011 6:58:12 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: devattel

I got that — your intent was quite clear. I was just trying to add a couple of points to your list. I probably should have mentioned that.


34 posted on 02/16/2011 6:58:12 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Seizethecarp

Two obnoxious people!


35 posted on 02/16/2011 6:58:31 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Seizethecarp
These two creeps know damn well it's not only about Obama’s place of birth. Obama is hiding everything from his past. I would have a problem with that, even if his past wasn't full of skeletons. The questions surrounding this guy are even more important now that he's damaging our country with his horrible policies. I have no respect for anybody who ridicules people who are only asking the president to release the most basic information about his past.
36 posted on 02/16/2011 6:58:38 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Stepan12

I agree with you. I think this issue accentuates the dishonesty of Obama and the Democrates, and it drives everyday people to the poles.

We don’t want dishonesty in government. We want the truth and real transparency.


37 posted on 02/16/2011 7:00:17 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Are wonderful friends at Fol Al Waleed Bin Tal. F Them. They are as bad as the rest. O’Reilly is a pervert and Beck said that he personally had a porn addiction and is a friend of Bill W. These two are real gems.


38 posted on 02/16/2011 7:02:57 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: peeps36

An author on Medved stated that we know more about the first two years in George Washington’s life then we do about Barak Obama’s first two years.


39 posted on 02/16/2011 7:03:20 PM PST by gusty
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To: airborne

Prince Al Waleed Bin Tal is their boss at Fox News. He aka Saudi Arabia is the largest individual shariaholder in News Corp, #2 in Disney/ABC and a major one in TW/CNN and GE/MSNBC/CNBC/MSNBC.

Of course these little puppets with dubious pasts are being told what to say. The Saudis paid good money for the white hut to get their muslim in there.


40 posted on 02/16/2011 7:05:49 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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