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Gopher Misleads on CAIR Accusation Against Radio Station
DCRTV ^ | 3/5/11 | DCRTV

Posted on 03/05/2011 7:37:17 PM PST by foxylady1776

WMAL: Grandy Not Gagged On Islamic Talk - 3/5 - Midday Saturday, DCRTV received the following statement from WMAL's President/General Manager Jeff Boden: "WMAL did not terminate Fred Grandy's employment, and never had any intention to do so. Fred informed us on March 2 of his intention to resign from the station. To be clear, at no time has WMAL told Fred that he was not allowed to discuss his views on Islam over the air. In fact, he has done so on numerous occasions. Further, WMAL has not been contacted by any organization seeking to restrict his broadcasts. Bryan Nehman continues to anchor our morning program and in the interim will be joined by several notable guest hosts and regular contributors. WMAL remains committed to its goal of providing a forum for discussing a broad spectrum of issues while delivering compelling programming including Chris Plante, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Mark Levin. I wish Fred success in his future endeavors".....


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To: stormer
I don’t have any problem with you posting the station’s release. I don’t know who Fred is, but if the station is continuing to carry Hannity and Limbaugh, I can’t imagine he was canned because of pressure from CAIR.

Fred is Fred Grandy, host of WMAL's Grandy Group, former TV star from the Love Boat, former Republican Congressman from Iowa, and gubernatorial candidate. The Station brought him aboard several years ago to co-host the Andy & Grandy morning show, where Fred provided a lot of unique insight into how Congress operates and used his continuing congressional contacts to discuss hot-button issues. Despite all the sneers about "Gopher," Fred is very sharp and can speak Arabic.

Andy & Grandy ended last May when WMAL's owner Citadel canned Andy Parks to save some $$$$. To calm the uproar over that dumb move, Citadel kept Fred and created the Grandy Group, giving Fred control over content and guests. He then started bringing his wife Catherine, aka Mrs. Fred (who is also a very sharp lady) on for Friday morning discussions about radical Islam, where she connected dots and hammered the point home that the ROP is a fundamental danger to this country and that Islamic terrorists are hell-bent on killing Americans and defeating us in GWOT.

Nothing wrong with that, but CAIR has a history of meddling in WMAL's internal affairs, and the station has caved repeatedly over the past six years, first firing Michael Graham when he called Islam a "terrorist organization" and refused to apologize and undergo CAIR indoctrination, and then firing Chris Plante for much the same thing. The station had to bring Chris back though after yet another uproar and its ratings tanked when they tried to replace him with Joe Scarborough.

The fact of the matter is that NOBODY believes WMAL anymore based on its past spinelessness with CAIR, and we take Fred's wor over that of station management (which also claimed that CAIR had nothing to do with Graham's firing despite CAIR's gloating about it).

This post was an obvious WMAL and/or CAIR attempt to slam Fred.

41 posted on 03/06/2011 3:54:09 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: foxylady1776; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv
Goodbye, CAIR monger.

ZOT!


42 posted on 03/06/2011 4:06:22 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: foxylady1776
IATZ.


43 posted on 03/06/2011 4:56:31 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

All well and good. I still don’t have a problem with the original post; the poster didn’t appear to take a position on the press release, and its posting (along with the back story you’ve provided) is informative. Awful lot of folks around here who are a little too eager to attack when they think someone is threatening their precious mindset.


44 posted on 03/06/2011 9:31:13 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer
Awful lot of folks around here who are a little too eager to attack when they think someone is threatening their precious mindset.

Thankfully, your opinion is that of the minority. BTW, you have a certain mindset yourself.

45 posted on 03/06/2011 1:04:27 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: foxylady1776

Lying is permissable in Islam:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/032.smt.html
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/049.sbt.html

Especially to facilitate murder.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.369

They call it Taqiyyah.


46 posted on 03/06/2011 1:08:01 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: stormer

Those who defend trolls are themselves usually trolls.
The poster is banned, probably because they were a known retread, Ie. IP trace sniff came up a match for a previous troll.


47 posted on 03/06/2011 1:10:27 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: foxylady1776

Straight from the quran:
002.191
YUSUFALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
PICKTHAL: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
SHAKIR: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

002.193
YUSUFALI: And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.
PICKTHAL: And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.
SHAKIR: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.

005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,


In the eyes of islam, not bowing to mecca or following their demon pig prophet is ‘waging war’ against them.


48 posted on 03/06/2011 1:11:36 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: foxylady1776

Ever wonder about the muslim fetish for cutting off heads and where it comes from?

047.004
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.004
YUSUFALI: Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.
PICKTHAL: Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain.
SHAKIR: So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.


49 posted on 03/06/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: foxylady1776

Muslims are forbidden to be friends with non-muslims

009.023
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.023
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; and whoever of you takes them for a guardian, these it is that are the unjust.

003.028
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.028
YUSUFALI: Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
PICKTHAL: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
SHAKIR: Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.


50 posted on 03/06/2011 1:14:56 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: Darksheare; stormer
Il s'agît de post #44...

Look at Mark Steyn's article Retreating Into Silence.

I submit that stormer is one of those atheists who loves Islam for its utility in attacking Christians.

Further affiant sayeth not.

Cheers!

51 posted on 03/06/2011 1:28:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; stormer

Yeah, seen those types before.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2682159/posts?page=139#139
They fall into the last category.


52 posted on 03/06/2011 1:32:58 PM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: Darksheare

53 posted on 03/06/2011 4:52:17 PM PST by stormer
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To: grey_whiskers

54 posted on 03/06/2011 4:53:59 PM PST by stormer
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To: Darksheare
NO! Not THOSE types!


55 posted on 03/06/2011 4:59:48 PM PST by stormer
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To: ottbmare

Some discussion on radio-info.com:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=186182.msg1637746#msg1637746

some comments from that:
Firebird: The morning show was never the same after WMAL fired Andy Parks.

jseville: My email to them:
Done with being bossed around by CAIR. Fred Grandy is a great american. Firing him is an attack on me and free speech. It’s disgusting. I have turned of WMAL forever or until he is reinstated. I thought about doing so when Michael Graham was termintated. But now I must do it based on principle—it was not a fluke that WMAL does not support the majority of Americans that believe in free speech.

SallyE: I understand there will be a protest outside the WMAL studio on Wed. morning at 10 a.m. WMAL was very careful to say that Grandy had not been pressured to tone down his comments about radical Islam. But it is my understanding that his wife was told not to come back. He was then put in a position where he almost had to resign. Mrs. Fred was starting to talk about radical Islamists who are in our government. She has done a lot of research and I found her comments interesting and provocative. The last time she was on she said that if she didn’t come back (on March 4) it would mean that CAIR had gotten to WMAL. Guess she was right.


56 posted on 03/07/2011 8:21:24 AM PST by raccoonradio (..)
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