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9th Circuit to hear eligibility questions
WND ^ | March 30, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/30/2011 3:00:52 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Arguments in a lawsuit that has been percolating through the federal court system in California since Barack Obama's election on his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is going to be heard at the appellate level in just a few weeks.

Officials with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals today notified attorneys representing several dozen individuals – members of the military, members of state government and even a candidate for president – that oral arguments will be held on May 2.

"I can't believe it, but after two years of Obama litigation, for the first time the court of appeals scheduled oral argument in [the] Obama case," wrote Orly Taitz, a prominent California attorney who has litigated a number of challenges to Obama.

"This is [the] Judge Carter case, where I represent Ambassador Alan Keyes, 10 state representatives and 30 members of [the] U.S. military," she wrote in her blog confirmation of the plans.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alankeyes; bc; certifigate; keyes; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; taitz
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1 posted on 03/30/2011 3:00:53 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

When the inevitable truth inevitably comes out what about all the dorkwads who sneered at “birthers”?

What are they going to say?


2 posted on 03/30/2011 3:03:32 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: RobinMasters
A “hearing” by the 9th circuit????? Why bother! They've already got their marching orders, so this is just a waste of time.
3 posted on 03/30/2011 3:05:47 PM PDT by blues-train (blues train)
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To: RobinMasters

And then there’s this news today also:

http://www.gazette.com/articles/springs-115381-colorado-obama.html

There seems to be a little problem with Obama’s Social Security Number as shown on his draft registration, which has been obtained by a retired vet.


4 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:00 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: RobinMasters
Open questions to all the legal minds out there, (if I may):

If Trump enters the presidential race, officially, would he then have "standing" to file a lawsuit arguing the Obama is not legally the President?

Several of these cases have been dismissed for lack of standing, (a legal term I admit I am not fully up to speed on). But it seems that anyone running against the anointed one would have the legal basis to challenge this.

5 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:13 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: samtheman
When the inevitable truth inevitably comes out what about all the dorkwads who sneered at “birthers”? What are they going to say?

"You're Fired!" ???

6 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: samtheman

It might be the truth, but it’s a bit premature to call the desired outcome “inevitable”.


7 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:52 PM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: RobinMasters

ROTFLOL


8 posted on 03/30/2011 3:07:20 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: samtheman
Another routine dismissal in the works.

There is no truth to come out other than what we already know—Obama was born in Hawaii and, like it or not, that makes him a native born citizen.

Rage away.

9 posted on 03/30/2011 3:07:20 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: blues-train

Just hearing it is a big step as either way it could go to SCOTUS (again).


10 posted on 03/30/2011 3:08:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: RobinMasters

Ninth Circus Court of Appeals?

A just ruling would be more likely to come from the Soviet Supreme Court in the 1930’s than from the Ninth Circus today.


11 posted on 03/30/2011 3:08:11 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: RobinMasters

Nothing good is going to come from the very, very liberal 9th Circus Court.


12 posted on 03/30/2011 3:08:57 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: blues-train
A “hearing” by the 9th circuit????? Why bother!

I thought the same thing. Why bother?

The 9th Circuit is the most liberal court in the nation, and will rule in Barry's favor, without a single doubt.

13 posted on 03/30/2011 3:09:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobinMasters; All

That sound you just heard was the exploding heads of Fraud-Cons like Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly, and other Obama Supporters who have been attacking the Birthers and helping Obama cover up the Birth Certificate

The 9th Circuit is the most liberal....so they will probably rule in favor of Obama....but at least there is a chance the cases will be heard.

And Fraud-Cons heads explode....

You not an Obama Birther....you will be an Obama Supporter


14 posted on 03/30/2011 3:10:17 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (No, supporting Communist China is not a "conservative idea".)
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To: ken in texas

It’s inevitable in the long run. Not inevitable that it will come out before the next election. Not even inevitable that it come out before the ‘16 election (though I would say that it probably will).

But it is inevitable. Some day the historical fact of this gross miscarriage of constitutional law will be out there.


15 posted on 03/30/2011 3:11:31 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: tired_old_conservative
Obama was born in Hawaii and, like it or not, that makes him a native born citizen.

Native Born, is not Natural Born, as is required by the US Constitution.

Besides the fact, that what you just stated has never been proven. To this very day, no one has produced a single, verifiable shred of proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. Not one.

16 posted on 03/30/2011 3:12:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Not just anyone. You’d have to pass a certain threshold of credibility as someone who has some actual chance to win. I suppose if McCain had sued during the last election, he might have gotten a hearing. He didn’t because he would have looked stupid after he lost the case.

If anyone ever does get this to court, here’s what will happen. The state of Hawaii will provide documentation to the court. The court will accept it. If anyone raises the two citizen parent issue the court will not accept that as valid. Appeal a few times and that will be that.

Win elections. That works better than nonsense.


17 posted on 03/30/2011 3:13:05 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: Windflier

They’ve produced more than enough for people thinking rationally.


18 posted on 03/30/2011 3:13:52 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: tired_old_conservative

amen to that.


19 posted on 03/30/2011 3:14:52 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
The Ninth Circus can only hear cases in the morning, afternoons are reserved for practice riding tiny bicycles and walking with very large shoes.
20 posted on 03/30/2011 3:16:12 PM PDT by JPG ("2012 Can't Come Soon Enough" - Sarah Palin)
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To: RobinMasters
WHOOPIE LOGIC
21 posted on 03/30/2011 3:17:07 PM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: RobinMasters
All it takes is one case. A judge or in this case a panel of judges could order the One’s team of lawyers to fork over the documents... Of course if the documents actually still even exist and they show anything damaging they probably will never see the light of day. Obama’s team will just keep stonewalling, making excuses, and handing out nothing but superfluous BS as usual. But if Obama is seen violating judges’ orders in contempt of court it will help fuel the fires and eventually raise more doubts in the public’s eye.
22 posted on 03/30/2011 3:17:34 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
There seems to be a little problem with Obama’s Social Security Number as shown on his draft registration, which has been obtained by a retired vet.

The good Colonel sent Obama a 1099, like the 1099 that obamacare requires everyone doing business with every little podunk vendor has to fill out? Oh, that's sweet. Just, and sweet.

23 posted on 03/30/2011 3:19:04 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: tired_old_conservative
They’ve produced more than enough for people thinking rationally.

If you buy those junk electronic images that were put up by Obama's campaign website as proof, then I'd say your standards of evidence need raising.

No, I'm afraid that rational people saw right through that heinous charade. You can't obtain a driver's license with it, nor a passport, or even join a little league team, with the document that Obama released.

Yet, that's sufficient "evidence" for you to accept that Obama is a legal president.

Even Monopoly money is more valid than Obama's alleged COLB. At least I know for a fact, that it was printed by Milton-Bradley.

24 posted on 03/30/2011 3:22:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tired_old_conservative
“They’ve produced more than enough for people thinking rationally.”

What have they produced? Absolutely nothing... say it again. Obama hasn't produced anything. He hasn't given out anything. He hasn't even made any substantive statements. There is no evidence that the questionable Certification of Live Birth posted on the web was ever even authorized by Obama. You know much better than to make statements like that.

25 posted on 03/30/2011 3:25:06 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: samtheman
I tell you what they are going to say... it doesn't matter anyway for __________ reason.

Which is exactly what they did with Clinton. Clinton lied over and over, people kept screaming that he was lying... the left denied that he was lying... then the truth finally came out... and then the left simply said it didn't matter anyway. They will do the EXACT same thing with Obama.

26 posted on 03/30/2011 3:25:51 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: tired_old_conservative
"The court will accept it."

It could be an obvious forage with Mickey Mouse foot print on it and the courts will accept at to avoid this issue. The courts are afraid and that is scary.

27 posted on 03/30/2011 3:27:45 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
You not an Obama Birther....you will be an Obama Supporter

Sorry, but I think Taitz is a nut. This will go nowhere.

28 posted on 03/30/2011 3:29:49 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: tired_old_conservative
There is no truth to come out other than what we already know—Obama was born in Hawaii and, like it or not, that makes him a native born citizen.

We don't "know" any such thing which is why you can not prove either of your assertions.

29 posted on 03/30/2011 3:31:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: tired_old_conservative

And what have they produced? An internet copy? The real question is what is he hiding? Was his father a citizen of Kenya? I’m quite rational, just because you dont agree with someone does’nt make them irrational, lets see some real evidence, let the libs do the name calling.


30 posted on 03/30/2011 3:31:37 PM PDT by saturn1964
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To: Windflier
"If you buy those junk electronic images that were put up by Obama’s campaign website as proof, then I'd say your standards of evidence need raising.

“No, I'm afraid that rational people saw right through that heinous charade. You can't obtain a driver's license with it, nor a passport, or even join a little league team, with the document that Obama released.

Yet, that's sufficient “evidence” for you to accept that Obama is a legal president.

Even Monopoly money is more valid than Obama’s alleged COLB. At least I know for a fact, that it was printed by Milton-Bradley.”

Yeah, this is the kind of bar lout nonsense you guys spew. I've heard it all before. Even if you believe this idiocy that the Obama campaign went to all the trouble to post a fake birth certificate that could easily be exposed by Internet cranks who have themselves been exposed as frauds, you're still up against a very elementary fact. The state of Hawaii is under no legal obligation to refrain from identifying that a fraudulently proffered state document is, in fact, a fraud. States call fraudsters on that kind of stuff all the time. And yet Hawaii has never once implied there's any problem with the document the Obama campaign posted as a simple courtesy to the curious. They've actually said its information conforms with the records they have on file.

But, yeah, i know, they're ALL in on it. The former Republican governor of Hawaii, the whole bureaucracy, and probably all kinds of secret ninjas, too.

31 posted on 03/30/2011 3:32:13 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: RobinMasters

If it’s the 9th Circus, there’s no point in even bothering with it.


32 posted on 03/30/2011 3:32:37 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: RobinMasters

Kozinski, Alex

Born 1950 in Bucharest, Romania

Federal Judicial Service:
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit; Nominated by Ronald Reagan on June 5, 1985, to a new seat created by 98 Stat. 333; Confirmed by the Senate on November 7, 1985, and received commission on November 7, 1985. Serves as chief judge, 2007-present

Education:
University of California, Los Angeles, A.B., 1972 University of California, Los Angeles, School of Law, J.D., 1975

Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Anthony Kennedy, U.S. Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit, 1975-1976 Law clerk, Chief Justice Warren Burger, Supreme Court of the United States, 1976-1977 Private practice, Los Angeles, California, 1977-1979 Private practice, Washington, DC, 1979-1981 Deputy legal counsel, Office of the President-Elect, Washington, DC, 1980-1981 Assistant counsel, Office of Counsel to the President, Washington, DC, 1981 Special counsel, Merit Systems Protection Board, Washington, DC, 1981-1982 Chief judge, U.S. Court of Claims, Washington, DC, 1982-1985


33 posted on 03/30/2011 3:35:42 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: crosshairs

34 posted on 03/30/2011 3:38:14 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: saturn1964
There's no basis for presuming he's hiding anything.

His father absolutely was a Kenyan citizen. He admitted that, even wrote a book about it. It was common knowledge during the campaign. No one gave it any special thought because there's a well-established historical basis, understood by competent legal practioners, as to why that doesn't matter with regard to status as a natural born citizen. You don't have to like it, but no court is ever going to rule otherwise.

There's no requirement for a Presidential candidate to present his birth certificate to you or me. The Obama campaign is the only one in my memory that did. What he posted on the Internet as an informational courtesy only. It conforms with his biography and the type of documentation the state of Hawaii issues. If it didn't comport with the state of Hawaii's records, the state had every right to say so. There is no legal privacy protection for fraudulently prof erred state documents. Yet not only has the state of Hawaii not disputed Obama’s COLB, but the Republican Governor said they checked and its information conforms with the information they have.

In any court of law, that would be called real evidence. If one of these lunatic cases every by chance makes it that far, the result would be a court accepting documentation received from the State of Hawaii, which is presumptively valid.

35 posted on 03/30/2011 3:43:19 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: tired_old_conservative
Hawaii has never once implied there's any problem with the document the Obama campaign posted as a simple courtesy to the curious. They've actually said its information conforms with the records they have on file.

But, yeah, i know, they're ALL in on it. The former Republican governor of Hawaii, the whole bureaucracy, and probably all kinds of secret ninjas, too.

I'll be gentle here, and just say that in my estimation, you're far too trusting of the left and the government apparatuses they control, and that you're very naive (despite being tired and old).

I won't try to convince you further. Choose to believe what you like, but most conservatives see this issue for the enormous fraud it is.

36 posted on 03/30/2011 3:50:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Maybe you would care to opine on just how I received a US Passport with my COLB? There wasn’t a seconds hesitation about it’s validity when I presented it as part of the required documents necessary to obtain a passport.


37 posted on 03/30/2011 3:52:24 PM PDT by in the wind
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To: tired_old_conservative
said, "yet Hawaii has never once implied there's any problem with the document the Obama campaign posted as a simple courtesy to the curious."

this is incorrect

Hawaii was the only state in the Union that required by law to show proof to be placed on the ballot. When Obama turned in his records turned it back and asked for better evidence.
No evidence was ever produced the governor at the time let it pass when pressure was put on the state to allow it as is.

38 posted on 03/30/2011 3:52:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: tired_old_conservative

Even 0bama admits he was born in Kenya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded


39 posted on 03/30/2011 3:57:44 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: samtheman

The usual, that we are all just a bunch of racists and couldn’t stand Obama because he was black.


40 posted on 03/30/2011 4:00:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: tired_old_conservative
There is none so blind as he who will not see...Let me help you out, t_o_c...


41 posted on 03/30/2011 4:00:29 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: tired_old_conservative

We will know for sure some day. Until then the one thing we know for sure is that his acknowledged father was African. Sure opens up the POTUSA pot to a lot more Mexican border chidren perhaps some from even Muslim countries .


42 posted on 03/30/2011 4:02:58 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: tired_old_conservative

We will know for sure some day. Until then the one thing we know for sure is that his acknowledged father was African. Sure opens up the POTUSA pot to a lot more Mexican border chidren perhaps some from even Muslim countries .


43 posted on 03/30/2011 4:03:14 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Steve Van Doorn
That's just another one of the many made up urban legends on this subject. Like Pakistan not allowing people with US passports to travel there in the 80s. It also has the benefit of being one of the “vast conspiracy” variants, making it immune to rational analysis because there's always someone who could have succumbed to mysterious, unprovable pressure to falsify records.

I will repeat, the idea that the information on the COLB is wrong works only if the entire State government of Hawaii is implicated in the cover up. You can believe that if you want, but don't expect to be taken seriously by rational people.

44 posted on 03/30/2011 4:06:32 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The ninth is also the most overturned court in the nation.

I could see the USSC wanting several cycles through several venues in order not to appear hasty or biased.


45 posted on 03/30/2011 4:09:14 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: BubbaBobTX

Are you really that dumb? Did you listen carefully or do any research at all?

Do you, by any chance, have title to the Brooklyn Bridge?

Did you get it at a bargain?


46 posted on 03/30/2011 4:09:22 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: Windflier

Definitely. They will simply codify that one does not have to, if one is a lefty anyway, prove eligibility at all. Because proving eligibility to BE president would just disenfranchise or suppress the vote or something. You know the same way proving eligibility to vote does in leftyland.


47 posted on 03/30/2011 4:10:16 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: noinfringers2
Yes, his father was a Kenyan citizen. Kenya has Muslims. Obama’s grandfather was a Muslim to some degree or another.

The POTUSA pot is legally open to anyone who qualifies as a natural born citizen. No competent legal authority has disputed that Obama does.

Win elections. That's what matters, not this nonsense.

48 posted on 03/30/2011 4:13:51 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative (.)
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To: tired_old_conservative
LOL! You are a funny guy,

There's no requirement for a Presidential candidate to present his birth certificate to you or me. The Obama campaign is the only one in my memory that did.

Several candidates, including Eisenhower and McCain have been asked to prove their eligibility. They simply did so. Soetoro didn't present a birth certificate to "you and me" because a photoshop image on Soetoros website is not a birth certificate.

What he posted on the Internet as an informational courtesy only. It conforms with his biography...

It isn't unusual for ignorant people to be annoyingly smug, we see that in Soetoro supporters all the time. Were you not ignorant of the facts you would be aware of just how much of the Soetoro "biography" that Soetoro didn't actually write is demonstrably untrue.

... and the type of documentation the state of Hawaii issues. If it didn't comport with the state of Hawaii's records, the state had every right to say so.

LOL! Every right? So what? Politically, they have every reason not to.

There is no legal privacy protection for fraudulently prof erred state documents. Yet not only has the state of Hawaii not disputed Obama’s COLB, but the Republican Governor said they checked and its information conforms with the information they have.

Those statements are not as straight forward as you imply. Your assertion also ignores that the law requires they produce documents they rely upon for official statements and they have refused to do so.

All in all, I smell troll.

49 posted on 03/30/2011 4:15:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: tired_old_conservative

ROTFL


50 posted on 03/30/2011 4:18:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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