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Wayne Madsen: Foreign Intelligence Agencies Say Obama Birth Certificate Is Fake
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | 28 April 2011 | Wayne Madsen via Fellowship of Minds

Posted on 04/28/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

From intelligence agencies around the world, the verdict on President Obama’s newly-released certificate of live birth from Hawaii is in: the certificate is a rank forgery on the same level as the Niger “yellow cake” uranium and Iraq Oil Ministry forged documents. Intelligence and law enforcement services are experts on fake documents since they have to deal with large numbers of counterfeit documents, such as birth certificates, passports, identity cards and driver’s licenses, as well as currency. Intelligence agencies are also experts at forging their own documents for their clandestine agents.

Within 24-hours of the release of the long form Certificate of Live Birth on April 27, intelligence agencies from Britain and China to Germany and Russia examined the document and concluded it was a forgery based on the fact that Barack H. Obama Sr.’s race, listed as “African,” was a monumental error, considering that not only the United States, but other English-speaking nations described Africans and those of African descent as either “Negroes” or “blacks” in 1961.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birtcertificate; birth; certificate; certifigate; fraud; hawaii; hussein; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease
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To: Fractal Trader
Other members of the African race agree...


61 posted on 04/29/2011 7:06:52 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Red Steel

~That~ is a great find! Well done!


62 posted on 04/29/2011 7:11:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Cicero

Have you seen what happens with it when it’s opened in Adobe? It’s been meddled with.


63 posted on 04/29/2011 12:08:03 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: RummyChick

About that “X”—

X always marks the spot. Consider this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712232/posts?page=49#49


64 posted on 04/29/2011 12:36:39 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Is the simple mention of Kenya, proof it’s a forgery?”

No. Nor is it proof it isn’t a forgery. It was commonly referred to as Kenya even when it was a British colony but that wasn’t its full name.


65 posted on 04/29/2011 12:40:57 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: sometime lurker
Not end of story ~ the Protectorate encompassing Mombasa was also the capital of Kenya.

I don't think it bothered the locals ~ they'd use whatever name worked.

Getting in "Kenya", and "Protectorate" and "East" and "Africa" seems quite reasonable. It's like Northern Virginia, DC Suburbs, Washington, etc. They can all mean the exact same place!

66 posted on 04/29/2011 2:29:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mad_as_he$$

Ask him about the “birth certificate”!


67 posted on 04/29/2011 9:03:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cicero; LucyT; Red Steel; David; melancholy; opentalk; RobinMasters; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; ...
...the name of the hospital is another [problem]. I[t] didn't have that name back then, but only after a merger took place, years later.

Could be that the name of the hospital was changed later, but it's true that the hospital name on Obama's purported Certificate of Live Birth is the same as the hospital name on the Nordyke twins' respective certificates. So if you use the Nordyke twins' certificates as a standard of credibility, then the hospital name on Obama's purported certificate has to be accepted.

That doesn't preclude, of course, concluding that O's certificate is a forgery based on other considerations. The most apparent of those is the electronic layering of the scanned Obama-released certificate.

68 posted on 04/29/2011 9:46:28 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Fractal Trader; justiceseeker93

obumpa


69 posted on 04/29/2011 11:42:05 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: little jeremiah

I sent him an email yesterday. Haven’t heard back.


70 posted on 04/30/2011 7:58:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Let us know if he replies.


71 posted on 04/30/2011 9:35:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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72 posted on 04/30/2011 9:55:44 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Red Steel

ping for reference


73 posted on 04/30/2011 7:56:12 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Fractal Trader
A comment and thought from CDR Kerchner (Ret) on the "assembled" PDF document put out on the internet by Obama:

While this whole "assembled" PDF document the White House put out could be a ruse and trap to further embarrass the "birthers" as Mario considered in his new article, I had another thought. What's to say that the copies given to Obama's lawyer sent to Hawaii, and attested to by Hawaiian officials, actually show the same information on those two paper copies that is now being displayed on the internet in this very badly assembled PDF document.

As I recall the former HI director when interviewed in recent weeks, she said when she saw the alleged original Obama birth registration document she said it was half typed and half hand written. What we are being shown on the net is something that is entirely typed except for the signatures. That does not comport with what the former HI Health Dept Director said.

What if the Obama powers sent the lawyer to Hawaii to provide the necessary cover story that they did get two copies of the Obama vital record there ... but the image on the net now is NOT of the paper copies that they picked up ... say because there is something on it that Obama still does not wish to reveal. So he has a version cooked up once again to put online, and someone screwed up and did not flatten the PDF file prior to release to hide the layers. Would Hawaii officials speak up to affirm or deny that what Obama put on the net is not an image of the copy of what they gave to Obama's lawyer. Or would they keep silent in much the same way they did regarding the Certification document, the short form images on the net since Jun 2008. Remember that Hawaii never confirmed that any of those images on the net were copies of something that they issued. Hawaii has been very willing to cooperate with Obama's stonewalling and game playing regarding the vital records in HI for Obama. And, Obama is playing such a cat and mouse game with the American electorate about all his hidden records that one can never tell with him as to what is real or what is memorex. It is a disgrace how this administration is treating the American citizenry. And the main stream media does not call him out on this and instead helps and enables Obama to conduct such offensive disinformation tactics on the American electorate. Journalism no longer exists in this nation. The media should be ashamed.

74 posted on 04/30/2011 7:57:11 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 Blasphemy of them which say they're Israelites, and are not, but are the synaGOGue of Satan.)
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To: klamath

Actually, I think that is pretty well covered here:

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html

What the guy makes sense to me and it is a good read, though long.


75 posted on 04/30/2011 9:28:48 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Why yes, I do speak Spanglish - "Hasta la later on, amigo. Pardon, would you have any salsa verde?")
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To: Red Steel
From intelligence agencies around the world,

Has this been confirmed? I don't trust this author.

76 posted on 04/30/2011 9:32:28 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: CommieCutter

I don’t think intelligence agencies around the world ever go on public record. Madsen claim to fame is he has sources inside the Intel world.


77 posted on 04/30/2011 9:49:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: outhousepatrol
Re: Kenya was not the name of the country Sorry, but actually it was, but not independent till 1963...etc

Great information. Kudus to you - this was being touted to debunk what seems to be a straight forward registration for a COLB...I'm glad to have this information.

A poster yesterday informed me that the courier font on that document (the one signed by grammama) proved it a forgery as courier was a computer font, not a typewriter font.

Yes on a computer font - but also, it was a pretty universal font for typewriters.

I made my living in the newspaper field for decades and am familiar with fonts.

the courier font was developed in the mid-50's - but not patented so quickly went into almost universal use with typewriters - before bamba war born.

78 posted on 04/30/2011 10:05:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Mach9
those rules excluded “African” as an acceptable race-category.

exactly.

"African" has NEVER and never will be a 'race.'

Africa is a continent. People of all colors are born there, same as here. Would you list your race as 'North American"?

It was that little mistake of a kind that so often trips up the liars...usually something as simple as this rather than a long convoluted list of possibles.

79 posted on 04/30/2011 10:10:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Lancey Howard
There was no Kenya until December 1963

Better check out post #42.

we need to be sure we only use correct information when citing pros and cons re the authenticity of the COLB -

80 posted on 04/30/2011 10:19:49 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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