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Obama's long-form birth certificate debunked - with illustrations
Personal examination ^ | 04/30/2011 | EasTexSteve

Posted on 05/01/2011 6:45:48 AM PDT by eastexsteve

Bear with me, as I am rather new to this forum. The following is my unbiased examination of the Obama LFBC without any comment or input from outside sources. I'm sure others have made some of the same observations I have, but I assembled some observations that you can see yourself without using any specialized software whatsoever. I haven't seen some of these observations out on the web by anyone else yet. (Although, I'm sure I haven't looked everywhere.) Please feel free to copy the file from Google Docs and do what you wish with it.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1eQRJILO2U0ZWUwODM0ZDktZTg2OC00Yzc0LWI4YzAtODBkZWU2YjBhZDU1&hl=en&authkey=CKv6_hg


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; eligibility; enoughalready; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; obsession; onethoughtonethread
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"In fact, Rathergate wasn’t much of a conspiracy. It was about one or two people hatching a plan, pulling it off, and fooling others who wanted to believe. That’s why it was believable."

How many people do you think using Pshop requires?

141 posted on 05/01/2011 2:33:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Race? Obama is only 1/16th Black. He is 1/2 Caucasion, 7/16 Arab. He has an Arab name not African.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW, back on the Dan Rather forgeries, there were a lot of Freepers who jumped on top of the documents right off because they did not conform to the DOD standard memo or orders layouts in effect in the 60s and 70s.

On the other hand I had a good source who'd worked with the War Department/Navy Department standard memo and orders layouts in the 1940s and she advised me those documents met the standards she had had to follow back then.

I think the screw up on the formats was in the Photocomposition guy being handed the WRONG STYLE BOOK for Department of Air Force ~ most likely he got a U.S.Army Air Corps style book with the cover ripped off. Probably no dates in there ~ just inside the inside leaf.

They are all so embarrassed at having gotten caught so soon after they produced their nonsense they won't talk about it.

The Photocomposition guy is still jittery though. You just drop the term "kerning" in the middle of a thread and it's like you'd walked up behind Ned Beatty and said lowly "Squeal like a pig".

142 posted on 05/01/2011 2:55:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Ya know, your blather5ing is getting tedious. The ‘r’ was not picked up in the OCR copying conversion. A digital addition was made to finish the word. You knew that and that the n00bie poster wasn’t claiming the mischaracterization which you’ve tried to float now for several posts. You’re working for the other side. Shut the hell up if all you can do is sow mischaracterizations that you then attack. You have the axelrod stink about you, charles.


143 posted on 05/01/2011 2:58:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: little jeremiah
Hawaii - a criminal enterprise disguised as a State.



Obama correspondence

144 posted on 05/01/2011 3:28:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: eastexsteve
Excellent work, the kerning issue is the most damning to me as there is NO way to explain it away. There is no way the document the imposter showed us is legitimate, too bad the congress won't investigate.

I'm NOT saying that I believe -bama is the antichrist but I've always wondered how someone could be 'raised up' as a world leader with such a huge following as prophesied in the Bible. With the help of an evil and agenda driven media (the false prophet?) such as the one that helped put -bama into office, I now understand how it could or will happen.

145 posted on 05/01/2011 3:30:25 PM PDT by theymakemesick
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To: john mirse
Obama’s mother's signature on her Social Security card: Is it just me, or is Obama’s mother's signature a lot different from her signature on Obama’s long form birth certificate?

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This is mirse, the person who wrote the original message above.

A CORRECTION: After I wrote the message above, I checked out Obama's mother's signature on the internet.

After searching the internet, I learned that the Social Security signature that I first looked at seems to have been a fake, because it is so different from the signature on Obama's long form birth certificate, and other people on the internet said that the weird looking signature on the Social Security I first looked at was indeed a fake, and the Social Security card itself was also a fake.

For instance, one site displayed Obama's mother's 1954 Social Security application form with her signature, and that signature looked similar to Obama's mother's signature on Obama's long form birth certificate.

Still, I' m disturbed by the awkward way "Stanley" is put in parenthesis on Obama's long form birth certificate, because from other samples of Obama's mother's signatures on the internet, she seems to have used "Stanley" a lot as part of her signature.

If she was often embarrassed because she had a boy's first name, Stanley, it seems that she lived with it the best she could, and she seemed to have no problems using Stanley when she was required to sign legal documents like a passport application.

So, in my opinion, I have serious questions about whether or not Obama's mother signed Obama's long form birth certificate.

Sad for me to say, but I am beginning to think someone else signed Obama's mother's name to the long form birth certificate, because of the clumsy way the name "Stanley" is placed in parenthesis.

146 posted on 05/01/2011 3:38:28 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: little jeremiah
Have you ever heard of this before?



Man-in-the-Middle Attack

"Man-In-The-Middle attack is the type of attack where attackers intrude into an existing connection to intercept the exchanged data and inject false information. It involves eavesdropping on a connection, intruding into a connection, intercepting messages, and selectively modifying data.

...

DEFINITION

The term "Man-in-the-middle attack" (MITM attack) refers to the type of attack where the attacker intrudes into the communication between the endpoints on a network to inject false information and intercept the data transferred between them."




In Obama's case, we could be looking at a "Man-In-The-Middle" attack in a sneaker shoes network. Enter Perkins Coie lawyer(s) who fly off (on foot ; sneakers) to Hawaii to retrieve it. Obama and his lawyers are the men in the middle, and/or Hawaii is actively in on the cover up.

147 posted on 05/01/2011 3:44:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Look. This guy has proven that this doc is a composite of two vastly different types of type.

We want to know from either Obama or the Hawaii Dept of Health, WHY?? If there was one file in the archives from 1961, why wasn’t everything on it, typed in 1961?

We simply want to know why.


148 posted on 05/01/2011 3:44:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: shield
This is key:

Would Hawaii officials speak up to affirm or deny that what Obama put on the net is not an image of the copy of what they gave to Obama's lawyer. Or would they keep silent in much the same way they did regarding the Certification document, the short form images on the net since Jun 2008. Remember that Hawaii never confirmed that any of those images on the net were copies of something that they issued. Hawaii has been very willing to cooperate with Obama's stonewalling and game playing regarding the vital records in HI for Obama.

149 posted on 05/01/2011 3:48:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: eastexsteve

People have pulled off that layer before.

The point of all this is, WHY? Why was it manipulated? ANd, Hawaii Dept of Health, do you swear under oath that this document is exactly what you gave to the Pres?


150 posted on 05/01/2011 3:52:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Red Steel

Sounds about right.

Is it odd that a private law firm would be doing this rather than gov lawyers? But why the hell involve any lawyers at all? If he is what/who he says he is, why the hell doesn’t he have a birth certificate already? If he just lost his birth cerificate all someone would need to do would be contact the DoH in HI and ask that a copy be sent. Airplanes? Lawyers? It’s beyond insane.

Not that this thing is a birth certificate, it’s just an abstract. Or would be, if it wasn’t a forgery.

The insane thing is actually not 0h0m0 and his cast of thousands of partners in crime, what’s insane is how all the Repubs, “conservative” talk people, judges etc are either silent as wabbits with their tongues cut out, or actively attacking those concerned with Consitutional eligibility.

You expect leftist muzzie loving commies to act like criminals. But everyone who should be concerned with this have either terminal cases of Stockholm syndrome or are in on the game. I don’t get it how no one practically, except Trump is doing anything but choosing the wrong side. At this point even silence is better than what a lot of them are doing.

Apparently last week Rush said some strange things and then without previous announcment left for a few days. I don’t listen to radio but I read it here on FR. Did you hear that or read about that? Something about being really concerned for the country.

I’m also wondering how long this criminal imposter-ship and the huge cover up edifice can continue.


151 posted on 05/01/2011 3:55:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Again, you are interpreting what you are seeing, but without an explanation. What name do you think they had an image for such that it spelled “Ba-ack”, and they had to add the “r”?

Don't call him lazy. He only has proven that the doc was altered. Why should he tell you WHY? He has no idea why!! This is not about explanations. That is something we American people, Obama's boss, have very little of, when it comes to his actions.

WE DON'T KNOW WHY. That is what we need to ask Obama and Hawaii. You're wasting your time criticizing the original poster. No one here needs to jump to conclusions why Obama's hiding things. It's up to Obama to explain that to US!

152 posted on 05/01/2011 3:56:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: NoLibZone

Just to play along with your hypothetical, in this conspiracy we are talking about, who do you think is the one person who was “using Pshop”?


153 posted on 05/01/2011 4:01:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red Steel
Obama has released his Hawaii long form birth certificate to the public, so why can't Obama and Hawaii officials now allow some reporters representing the major news organizations to go to Hawaii and look at, touch, and photograph the original?

It makes no sense to me that, on the one hand, Obama goes around releasing his long form birth certificate at a Washington press conference on April 27, 2011 for the world to see, but, on the other hand, Obama and Hawaii officials, as far as I know, won't let reporters look at the very same, exact Obama long form birth certificate at the Hawaii Health Department.

Again, it makes no sense to me.

If I were Trump, I would put pressure on Obama and Hawaii officials to let reporters examine, touch, and photograph the original birth certificate at the Hawaii Health Department.

154 posted on 05/01/2011 4:02:07 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: MHGinTN

SInce you are here, maybe you can answer the simple question. Why, in the conspiracy theory interpretation, did the forger of the document have to put a special “r” in the middle of Barack’s name? Where did they get the other good letters, and why didn’t it include the ‘r’?

What is the explanation in the conspiracy for why they had to substitute this “wrong-style” “r” into the name?


155 posted on 05/01/2011 4:04:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Obama.

If it can be shown he is not eligible, his mega backers will remove him in hours.

He will never send the doc from HI straight to the NYtimes etc.


156 posted on 05/01/2011 4:07:00 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Race? Obama is only 1/16th Black. He is 1/2 Caucasion, 7/16 Arab. He has an Arab name not African.)
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To: Yaelle

Whereas I want to know why the conspiracy theorists think they had to do this. Are you just saying that they incompetently built a bad document when they easily could have built a good one? Because that simply makes no sense.

And all they’ve shown is that the image they have downloaded has layers with different types of type. That doesn’t mean the original document has them; we know the document was scanned, and we know that people have replicated similar types of layering by scanning documents.

I haven’t scanned a document to look for layers; but I have tried to scan documents I have to get them into text form so I can edit them, and I know that I can sometimes get partially-converted documents, even with my older software, so I have no reason to doubt that with the more modern multi-layer stuff people are talking about, the program could do text on some things, and leave other things as images.

BTW, I’m not saying the document is real. How would I know that? I’m not saying it is fake — I see no clear evidence of that. Looking at everything said, and weighing the logic behind the arguments, I tend to accept that this is a real document, unless there is some real evidence provided showing it was forged in a way that you can explain why it was forged in that way.


157 posted on 05/01/2011 4:10:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You're not too beight are ya, Charley? I answered that issue in my post. It is an anomolous ommission by the OCR scan which was but one of the layers used to fabricate the composite. The 'conspiracy' revolves around the issuing of a fabrciated composite as if it were an authentic scan of a single on-file document.

No wonder you spend so much verbiage on these threads. You can't keep up!

158 posted on 05/01/2011 4:31:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DrinkDeep

I can’t see any difference in those. But, there are plenty of differences elsewhere.


159 posted on 05/01/2011 4:33:45 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: little jeremiah
Is it odd that a private law firm would be doing this rather than gov lawyers? But why the hell involve any lawyers at all?

Here is the first thought that crossed my mind when I found out that Obama switched back to Perkins Coie lawyers.

You may recall something about that presidential executive privilege may not cover government lawyers and that the left used this against President Bush, but his private lawyers were a better protection under the attorney client privilege to keep information from becoming public or out of the courts.

160 posted on 05/01/2011 4:35:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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