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Not a Conspiracy? Natural Born Definition Scrubbed from Online Dictionaries.
Defend Our Freedoms ^ | May 6, 2011 | DFX

Posted on 05/07/2011 7:01:47 AM PDT by opentalk

"So progressive that the Constitution is totally defunct .. and yes, Kenya did exist in 1963 as the 'Protectorate of Kenya' under British rule. In 1963, British rule ceased and Kenya dropped 'Protectorate'.

Ladies and gentlemen, there is a MASSIVE cover-up underway.

BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries, with the sole exception of Wikipedia, redirects to Wikipedia, and quotes from Wikipedia.

....The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel's work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.

....They have maintained here that since Vattel wrote in French, and his exact wording for Natural-Born is, "Les Naturales ou indigenes" which literally translated would mean "the naturals or natives", Vattel can not be used as a reference for the wording of the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizenship. But, Vattel's definition (in English) is as follows:

(Excerpt) Read more at 69.84.25.250 ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; censorship; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; hi; nbc; nbcers; nwo; obama; vattel
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To: GBA

“Too late now.”

No. Document the crimes he is committing every day.

This guy is atrocious, he is bold, he is a meglomaniac


51 posted on 05/07/2011 9:17:18 AM PDT by mylife
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To: GBA

“They gave the President a lot of power, including that of Commander in Chief, and did their best to check and balance that power,”

The President has limited power we have checks and balances for a reason.

Obama has usurped all of that, he has installed chicago goombas at every level of the Gov, but nobody cares.

We are chasing the BC


52 posted on 05/07/2011 9:20:41 AM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife
It is 'too late now' to avoid the obama disaster. Now we must withstand the damage, defeat him in office and then undo and repair what we can. That is our unfortunate political reality.

However, the fact that obama isn't even eligible is not a distraction for many of us. It gives us even greater motivation.

That is the point most, including Steyn, can't get their opinions around. It is an oath-thing, you know?

53 posted on 05/07/2011 9:26:31 AM PDT by GBA
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I have NEVER in mylife seen a guy tear through the system like this asshole.

GWB spent 19 months building a case before congress, the UN and the world to go to war in Iraq.
And they call him a criminal.

Obama PURPOSELY circumvented congress and went to war with Libya and we are chasing the BC.

Now he is a Farking hero! He got Osama’s head.

Meanwhile The Caliphate is being installed in Egypt, Obama and Zawahiri are chuckling

All he needs to do now is get rid of that pesky loose cannon Gaddffhi.

And we are chasing the BC


54 posted on 05/07/2011 9:28:00 AM PDT by mylife
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To: GBA

I am an Oather.

Don’t misunderstand me.


55 posted on 05/07/2011 9:29:29 AM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife
I'm not sure what an 'Oather' is, first I've heard it, so I guess I do misuderstand you.

Apparetnly, however, we do agree on most everything else regarding obama, including the need to beat his skinny liberal butt next election.

He must be defeated.

56 posted on 05/07/2011 9:34:18 AM PDT by GBA
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To: mylife

To me, it is not a “birther thing”. Rather, it is a “adhering to the provisions of the constitution thing”.

Do we care what our constitution requires? If so, then we need to be concerned with what the phrase “natural born citizen” means. Either that, or we need to acknowledge that the 14th amendment makes the original language in Article 2 moot.

Does it mean “born in country to two US citizen parents”? Or does it mean “born in country to one US citizen parent”? Or, did the 14th amendment make it a “moot” issue and that one’s parentage is irrelevant?

Which is it and does it matter to us, the people?

Of course, we could simply ignore it completely and let some future generation deal with it...which seems to be the course we are on at the moment.


57 posted on 05/07/2011 9:36:07 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: GBA

An Oather swears on the constitution.


58 posted on 05/07/2011 9:38:40 AM PDT by mylife
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To: Let_It_Be_So

I do care what the constitution says, but this knucklehead has us chasing legal daffynitions while he is raping the shit out of the body of the constitution.


59 posted on 05/07/2011 9:41:50 AM PDT by mylife
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I’ve had my say on this matter.

Let’s go document his crimes


60 posted on 05/07/2011 9:44:25 AM PDT by mylife
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To: wintertime

“When did covering up and ignoring criminal fraud in the chain of command become part of the military code of honor?”

Like in the press, there must be very few with honor in the top ranks, or perhaps they’ve been promised high positions under Obama ever since the secret meeting of Congress on Mar. 12, 2008 (look it up). Before then the Senate voted against McCaskill and Coburn’s legislation to try and change the Constitution so Obama and McCain could be eligible. In April, they voted for SR 511 making McCain and Obama both eligible. What happened?

Was there a conspiracy? Do bears __? At the DNC, Dean/Pelosi forced some of Hillary’s delegates to vote for Obama. Hillary gave in. Why? Threatened? Perhaps they wait to be rewarded when Obama creates enough riots to impose a military dictatorship given to him in the Addends of the 2007 review of the Homeland Security Act. (Look it up)

If Obama had any honor, he would never have run for the presidency. He is not going away peacefully. No one will stop him except common citizens who realize they have nothing left to lose.


61 posted on 05/07/2011 9:51:49 AM PDT by charlie72
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To: opentalk

Was it ever in these dictionaries in the first place? It’s a phrase not a word.


62 posted on 05/07/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by dangus
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To: 47samurai

“I said this elsewhere in another thread, but I repeat:
Give it a rest!

Many of our past presidents: Van Buren, Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, Hoover, and of course Obama, all had at least one foreign born parent who were not naturalized citizens at the time of the future presidents’ births. Besides, under our Constitution, The House of Representatives is the final certifying body to an election, and, in each case, their word is final. The House did vote to make each of these men president, thereby giving their final stamp of approval as to the legitimacy of the election. So, regardless of your complaints, BO IS our president.

You see, even if you were somehow able to PROVE, (which you cannot) that BO was born in Kenya, it would not change the fact the the House certified the election. He WILL be the Prez until at least Jan 20, 2013.”

Sir nice post,this also puts Pelosi on the hot seat.


63 posted on 05/07/2011 9:57:50 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: tcrlaf
"And you thought 1984 was just a book?"

Normal people regard it as a dystopic novel and a cautionary tale.

Leftists regard it as a training manual.

64 posted on 05/07/2011 10:00:19 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: opentalk

By adding a hyphen, however, you create an adjective, which is found all over the internet. Sorry, you win the all-time award for lamest conspiracy theory on Free Republic. And I’ve come across a guy trying to argue that Santa Claus wore red and white because he was from a cult that built the Sphinx to look like a giant red-and-white mushroom.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/natural-born
nat·u·ral-born
[nach-er-uhl-bawrn, nach-ruhl-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
native-born.
2.
by virtue of one’s nature, qualities, or innate talent: a natural-born musician.

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/natural-born

natural-born - definition
showing a particular ability or tendency from an early age
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of natural-born

World English Dictionary
natural-born

— adj
being as specified through one’s birth: a natural-born Irishman

Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009
Cite This Source

Main Entry: natural-born 2
Part of Speech: adj
Definition: having the legal status of a citizen due to birth

Main Entry: natural-born 3
Part of Speech: adj
Definition: having a position or status from birth
Dictionary.com’s 21st Century Lexicon
Copyright © 2003-2011 Dictionary.com, LLC
Cite This Source

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/natural-born

natural-born
adj
being as specified through one’s birth a natural-born Irishman
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/natural-born

natural-born ADJECTIVE

[only before noun]

having a natural ability or skill that you have not had to learn
a natural-born performer

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Natural%20Born%20Citizen&defid=4019525

[too many references to cite.]


65 posted on 05/07/2011 10:08:37 AM PDT by dangus
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To: mylife

Thank you for your reply, mylife.

I agree that there are conspiracy theorists out there who are hurting the cause (defending and protecting the constitution) rather than helping further it.

It’s hard enough to keep ourselves focused on the real issues, while at the same time having to deal with imagined ones.


66 posted on 05/07/2011 10:25:10 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: opentalk
The article has many link examples also. It is enough to conclude this is a hot issue which they want to avoid.

The idiots on FR prating about how Zero wants to keep this issue alive because it makes "us" look bad and kooky are either stupid beyond measure or 0homerroids.

67 posted on 05/07/2011 10:29:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wintertime

Did you see the Post and Email interview with LCDR Fitzpatrick yet?


68 posted on 05/07/2011 10:31:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: charlie72; wintertime
If Obama had any honor, he would never have run for the presidency. He is not going away peacefully. No one will stop him except common citizens who realize they have nothing left to lose.

Can't disagree.

69 posted on 05/07/2011 10:33:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mylife
Are we back to the birther thing?

Never left, Obot!

70 posted on 05/07/2011 11:54:20 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: opentalk
"BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries"

Untrue. The fevered mind of the buffoon brigade at work.

71 posted on 05/07/2011 12:06:00 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Beckwith; mylife

mylife, an Obot?!

After you’ve read the entire thread, and all of his replies, you can offer him your “mea culpa”.

He is simply stating that we’re all chasing one thing while he has many irons in the fire that we’re missing.


72 posted on 05/07/2011 12:07:50 PM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: tongue-tied

Wish I had an edit feature:

I meant to say “...many irons in the fire that the MSM ignores.”

Freepers don’t miss much with this clown’s (zero’s) antics.


73 posted on 05/07/2011 12:11:01 PM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: tongue-tied

What? Somebody tagged me? LoL

Oh Noes, what will I ever do? Some one disagrees with me.

Oh Well


74 posted on 05/07/2011 12:32:26 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

You many have to change your tag line...oh. Never mind.


75 posted on 05/07/2011 12:34:59 PM PDT by tongue-tied
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To: tongue-tied

My biggest gripe is that Obama had nothing to do with his birth status. It’s going to be difficult at best to hang the guy over something he had no hand in.

Meanwhile, he is just busting up the place and everybody gives HIS ACTIONS a pass.

It’s maddening.


76 posted on 05/07/2011 12:37:26 PM PDT by mylife
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To: All
So let me get this straight: if we accept that both parents don't have to be US citizens , then bin laden can have a muslim woman pragnant, not even an American woman, have the child born here or...elsewhere and say he was born here..but let's say born here, and then they teach him all the imam and alQueda muslims rules and sharia law, including a deep hatred of America, our values and Americans people and then one day, this child can be president. Is this correct? Is it a mistake to remember what the Founding Fathers said about Allegiance???

So if we follow your reasoning, the one who don't believe in the Constitution, then these awful little brats born here from mexican illegals screaming in US schools now that America belong to them, can also be president?

Well, then I guess, let's start to choose our own nationality right now,(and language: spanish or arabic..tough choice) because if true, then America is totally gone - I guess with our english language, Christian faith and all.

Oh I forgot ezbollah..they are just across the mexican boarder - are they waiting for one of their children to become president? Hmmm...very scary indeed to see so many people, mainly on FR, not understanding how important it is to follow the Founding Fathers about being natural born citizen to qualify to be president or VP.

Oh well..
77 posted on 05/07/2011 1:15:32 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
So let me get this straight: if we accept that both parents don't have to be US citizens , then bin laden can have a muslim woman pragnant, not even an American woman, have the child born here or...elsewhere and say he was born here..but let's say born here, and then they teach him all the imam and alQueda muslims rules and sharia law, including a deep hatred of America, our values and Americans people and then one day, this child can be president.

Sounds like a shoe-in at the polls.

78 posted on 05/07/2011 1:18:03 PM PDT by x
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To: little jeremiah

Did you see the Post and Email interview with LCDR Fitzpatrick yet?
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No, I don’t think so.


79 posted on 05/07/2011 1:44:25 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: tongue-tied

I don’t do “mea culpae.”


80 posted on 05/07/2011 1:44:51 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: mylife

Steyn has a woeful lack of knowledge on natural born citizenship and Obama loving this? Only if the courts, the media, and the rest of his enablers quit covering for him, and let his past leak out into the public, then Obama would be hating it.


81 posted on 05/07/2011 2:45:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mylife
An Oather swears on the constitution.

I hate to be precise, but swearing on the Constitution doesn't sound quite right.

Perhaps swearing about the Constitution would be correct. Perhaps swearing an oath to support, uphold and defend the Constitution is correct. But swearing on the Constitution just doesn't sound like what I think you were saying.

If obama is encouraged by anything his opponents have done, it is not just their conceding the Constitutional eligibility issue to him. It was when his opposition then took up his cause and began to attack those of us who are not willing to let his ineligibility go.

I do not believe he anticipated this or he would have released the BC he recently provided before the 2008 election.

We make it easy for him to have his way with us and our precious Constitution. He takes our territory and we fall back. He takes our rights and liberty and we fall back. Whatever he does, no matter how outrageous, we fall back.

We are simply the best political opposition and enemies he could ever have hoped for. Not even Clinton was that lucky.

82 posted on 05/07/2011 3:37:04 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

I would be first in line to show Obamas communist roots if I could make it stick. Hell, he isnt even a communist He just uses that socialism ploy to punk people. Community activist and all that.
He divides and conquers.

The simple truth is, that the BC matter has NO TRACTION

He is very happy to keep us focused on it.


83 posted on 05/07/2011 6:52:10 PM PDT by mylife
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To: GBA

You do know that The Clinton matter. was not about the stain on the dress.

It was about perjury.

All I am saying is keep your eye on the ball


84 posted on 05/07/2011 6:56:35 PM PDT by mylife
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To: opentalk

I used FoxLingo to search OneLook, which in turn searches 930 English online dictionaries (the last of the two links I posted). That was convincing enough for me (showed up on wiki and urban dictionary as a slang term...


85 posted on 05/07/2011 7:25:40 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: mylife
The(?) Clinton matter? Which Clinton matter would be more accurate. And yes, that one particular matter regarding the dress was about perjury. If that's the only thing you remember about the Teflon Don, slick willie, a rich history of corruption awaits you.

About Clinton's impeachment, for one of the few times he got something right, Lindsey Graham said it wasn't about what you know, it's about what you can prove.

It's more correct to say "what you are willing to prove" and for the feckless republicans, that would be nothing.

It's all about being lucky enough to have republicans opposing you. No way you can lose with opponents like that...especially if you're a Bill Clinton or obama.

It doesn't matter what they do, there's no way a republican can/would pin it on them. The obama NBC issue is an excellent example, but only one of many. I hope and pray that I will someday be wrong about that.

Maybe Issa's got something? Would it matter? I'm sure we can talk him out of it.

We'll just replay the same old excuses again, just like y'all did with the NBC issue.

There will always be something more important to focus on, some bigger ball to keep our eyes upon and more of our territory, rights, freedom, liberty and wealth to give up for the promise of demonrat provided security. That's the plan, right?

86 posted on 05/07/2011 8:19:02 PM PDT by GBA
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To: 47samurai
Many of our past presidents: Van Buren, Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson, Hoover, and of course Obama, all had at least one foreign born parent who were not naturalized citizens at the time of the future presidents’ births

Van Buren's, Buchanan's, Wilson's, and Hoover's parents were all Americans at the time of their birth. Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.com.

87 posted on 05/08/2011 11:37:02 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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