Posted on 05/13/2011 12:40:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion
I was wrong. There apparently WAS a "seal" on Obama's BC. Savannah Guthrie says she felt it and she took a photo that shows a faint outline of a seal.
Unfortunately for Obama, that "seal" IMHO cannot be the same seal as on the Factcheck photos. The size, style, content, and clarity is way off.
This "seal" causes even more problems for Obama's case, although it explains why the media didn't see an immediate problem because of the missing seal.
Not meaning to pimp my blog, but there is no way to post the images here in a PDF where the analysis can be seen. Please check out the images - especially the last one which contrasts the Factcheck seal with Obama's latest attempt at forgery. (Pardon the first line being cut off on the PDF; computer hassles too much to deal with right now).
The direct lik to the PDF is http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/obama-bc-seal-contradicts-factcheck.pdf
great work butter!
Relevent question:
Has anyone (in the news media or elsewhere outside the Zerobama inner circle) actually claimed to have held and personally examined the paper copy(ies) of Zero’s documents?
I know there were two flunkie sycophants that said they examined Zero’s COLB a couple years ago, but they were unqualified and kool-aid drinkers, so they don’t count.
Shortly after Zero’s people posted the birth certificate on the white house website there was a flurry of snippets saying that the media had been invited into the white house to personally verify the authenticity of the documents. I have yet to hear or read a single first-hand report of any of them saying “yes, I saw it and held it and it looks legit.” Was that whole thing a false flag to get people to shut up or did I just miss the article(s) about it?
The only person who could factually make that statement would be a forensic document examiner.
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“Has anyone (in the news media or elsewhere outside the Zerobama inner circle) actually claimed to have held and personally examined the paper copy(ies) of Zero’s documents?”
On page 26 of “Dreams From My Father”, he says his paper copy is folded up and in a book.
Which makes one wonder why he sent to Hawaii for a copy.
You are correct, but if someone like Bret Baier or Chris Wallace or John Gibson were to say that they’ve examined it and it looks legit, it would at least lend a tinge of credibility. At this point there’s nothing at all but smoke and mirrors and lies and fraud.
Using Wingdings fonts, which are Dingbat fonts, written in the embossed seal seen in the Aug 2, 2008 "FactCheck" COLB image is laughable.
The FackCheck Obama COLB is just another forgery.
He had misplaced his family Koran...
But 0bama didn’t write the book, so he can’t be held accountable for the contents of the story.
Butterdezillion has added another reason for fair-minded people to doubt the authenticity of anything and everything regarding the usurper. For that she is owed a debt of gratitude.
That was my question also, and I searched high and low without success for several weeks to try to find a first-hand account of somebody who said they had held the document.
Yesterday somebody here pointed me to Savannah Guthrie who says she felt the seal and took a photo of the BC. At my blog I’ve got the link to the obamaconspiracy.org article which has the image and links to the NBC web page containing the video and transcript of Guthrie saying she felt the raised seal. That was the first I was able to find of anybody claiming they actually touched the “certified copy”. Based on the photo she took I do believe there was something raised on the BC she saw/felt but it was so indistinct that it could have been just about anything. And it definitely WASN’T the same seal as was on the Factcheck photos of Obama’s alleged COLB.
Anybody who took seriously the need to verify the authenticity of the document would have tried to get good photos of that seal. Yet the only photo I could find was one by J Scott Applewhite which had no distinct signs of a seal. I can’t say for sure, but I suspect that the media may have guessed that the “seal” wasn’t authentic, or else they would have at least MENTIONED it in their news accounts.
And Obama’s people handed out to the press a 6-page packet of photocopies that used SNOPES as the source for Obama’s COLB image - an image that has no seal showing. Probably because they knew the Factcheck seal doesn’t match.
It would be so easy to come up with a credible forgery. Definitely leaves the question of why they posted such a BAD forgery. My gut tells me it’s because they have something planned that will ensure there is no 2012 election.
So anyway, the short answer to your question is that the only report I know of was Savannah Guthrie on NBC verbally claiming that she touched the raised seal. And this analysis I’ve done is based on the photo she took of the document she held.
Tried it seveeral times more and got the same response that Internet Explorer closed down for .... then it commes back to original page where the link to your article resides and THAT is the link which refused to work.
Here’s a laugh! I tried using Google Chrome browser and the response initially came back “cannot find www.google.com” in the search box.
I pasted your link into Chrome and after a hesitation it appeared.
Some effort is being made to prevent easy access to your article.
AntiMullah encounters similar problems from time to time where broadband is suddenly not available - probably an AT&T “block” since they are root at the ISP provider and hosting location.
Just for the fun of it look at:
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/google-censorship-by-techies-strikes.html
They have since restored the two missing articles!
Both things Obama posted are forgeries. It should be fun, though, to hear them try to squirm out of the fact that the 2 “seals” they tried to use are different from each other. lol.
Where did you get the image of the genuine HDOH seal, if you don’t mind my asking? The HDOH has been squirming like crazy to get out of revealing what their genuine seal looks like.
But, but it’s not txe same specific hand held seal!!! But, but one was txe 2008 seal and this is txe 2011 seal!!! But, but this one is txe real one because Txe Won said it was!!! But, but seals are racist!!!
Hopefully people will go ahead and copy the PDF and post it on their sites as well. I don’t care who copies it, as long as the information gets out there. And if it’s copied on multiple websites it’ll be tougher for the web czars to make it inaccessible.
So if anybody has a website and wants to post the PDF from their site please go ahead. They can’t stop all of us at once (unless Obama gets the internet kill switch he’s been trying to get...)
I’m glad you could finally get to it. Thanks for persisting. =)
lol. You’re a great actress. Picked up the script really well. =)
The next thing we will be told is that we can’t really ever know what seal is the right seal to be used for a specific document - which, if true, would mean that the seals do absolutely no good because a person could come up with whatever seal they wanted for their forgery and there would be no way to prove it wasn’t really the one from the HDOH.
I don’t have the link handy but Obama’s people at one point said the BC Obama saw when he was in high school (according to the book) was actually destroyed in a small house fire when Obama was around 11.
Can any sane person really consider these people credible? How could a joker like this get elected in the first place? It makes me wonder whether this nation is too stupid to continue to exist.
The HDOH would have been extra careful in placing their seal on it knowing full well the hoopla that would have followed if it wasn’t perfect. They would have made sure not to use an old seal that might have been dirty and they would have pressed it extra hard. No way would they have haphazardly barely made an impression with it.
And that’s who we need to eventually look at whatever Hawaii has for Obama - as well as the computer logs to show the processing done on that record.
We REALLY need a state law that allows presidential eligibility to be challenged by normal people. All the evidence needs to be subpoenaed and tested forensically at this point.
If they were not spitting on the American public they would have been extra careful.
But then, they wouldn’t have created 3 different BC’s for the guy either, if they had anything but contempt for the American people and the rule of law.
I cannot even begin to describe how despicable these people are.
If what I’ve read is correct and the US government has admitted it has the ability to control the weather and activate both earthquakes and volcanoes through HAARP, I’m wondering if Hawaii officials were told they would get a bad earthquake, tsunami, or volcanic activity if they didn’t do as they were told. That the entire state would literally be washed away into oblivion if they didn’t play the part. Maybe the tsunami that was supposed to hit Hawaii and then didn’t was the horse’s head in the beds of the Hawaii officials - just to let them know the threat was real and serious.
It can be found on the Internet. Ms Tickly has the same seal right? That is written on the Hawaiian seal the “Department of Health” and the “State of Hawaii.”
We know that ‘Dingbat fonts’ do not spell out those words or any words.
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