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Judgment Day May 21 [Why the Bible Never speaks of the End of the Physical Universe]
Prophecy Questions blog ^ | May 18, 2011 | Prophecy Questioner

Posted on 05/18/2011 2:52:51 PM PDT by grumpa

Here we go again—Judgment Day. This time Harold Camping called it for this weekend, May 21. His billboard ads read: “The Bible Guarantees It!” We even heard this mentioned this week on CNBC, of all places. Confused Christians have been calling for the end of the world for a very long time, embarrassing themselves and the rest of Christianity.

Did you know that the Bible does not even mention the end of the physical universe? I’m sure this will come to a shock to Christians who do not know their Bible. So let’s take a look.

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1 posted on 05/18/2011 2:52:57 PM PDT by grumpa
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2 posted on 05/18/2011 2:55:46 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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Only human beings can screw up the Word of God. The Bible is clear on all subjects in it; including the end of time, homosexuality, slavery, on and on.

Only those with their own agendas, such as this cult, make a mess of it.


3 posted on 05/18/2011 2:56:07 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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People that use the Bible for prophecy....are probably pro-doomsday, under any mindset.


4 posted on 05/18/2011 2:56:37 PM PDT by pepsionice
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5 posted on 05/18/2011 2:56:58 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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Well unless I die then I don't think that is going to be the end of MY world.

Get ready for some cat fight here, though. This author says the KJV gave a misleading (well ok, just plain wrong) rendering of an occurrence of Greek aion as world when a better term, as appears in most modern bibles, would be age. Sacre bleu! is this possible? I say yes, others would vehemently disagree. Duck'n & run'n....

6 posted on 05/18/2011 3:00:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: grumpa
the Bible does not even mention the end of the physical universe?

"the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up"

7 posted on 05/18/2011 3:01:18 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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“the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up”

Not recycled? No wonder the left hates God so much!


8 posted on 05/18/2011 3:04:35 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: grumpa

I think that at the time of the bible, dates were pretty arbitrary. If you were planting something, you did it x days after the last snow fall. Even in the middle ages dates were reckoned along the lines of “14 seasons after the death of King John.” Today’s preoccupation with dates and times would be incomprehensible to most biblical cultures. Yes, people who collected rents were calendar aware, but the priests kept the calendars and those politicians, whose time in office depended on the calendar, were known to bribe priests to extend their time in office.

The cosmic significance of, say, the 21st of May is non-existent. Time and dates are arbitrary. Look at how many times the calendar was changed for one reason or another. If God were going to do some serious smoting, why would he do it on a particular date? One would think that God would simply see the need and smote!


9 posted on 05/18/2011 3:08:38 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Meet the New Boss

the Bible does not even mention the end of the physical universe? "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up"
2 Peter 3:10 does not depict the end of the physical universe. That's a depiction of the Great White Throne judgment.

Forgot about Isaiah 45:18, "he created it not in vain; he formed it to be inhabited"? Following on that, what about David's prophecy about God putting "all things under (the) feet" of mankind? Would he destroy everything instead of doing that?

Romans 8:19-21 has the following:
For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God; for the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God …
The creation (yes, "all things" from Greek "pantos") doesn't wait for this only to be destroyed first.
10 posted on 05/18/2011 3:11:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Revelation 21:1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
11 posted on 05/18/2011 3:17:54 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The stench of dependency is a sickening smell. Strive to become an asset, not a liability.)
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To: Olog-hai

Look, I know that people like to pimp their blogs by making provocative statements, but the Bible says clearly that God will destroy the old heaven and earth and create a new heaven and earth.

Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. Isaiah 65:17

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 21:1

But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. 2 Peter 3:13


12 posted on 05/18/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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13 posted on 05/18/2011 3:27:54 PM PDT by Einherjar
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To: Meet the New Boss

Look, I know that people like to pimp their blogs by making provocative statements, but the Bible says clearly that God will destroy the old heaven and earth and create a new heaven and earth
No, it does not say "destroy" anywhere in the Scriptures. Melting the surface of the earth cannot destroy it; you have to evaporate it or turn it into plasma. Basic thermodynamics here. Ecclesiastes 1:4 plainly says that "the earth abides forever" (the Hebrew word "olam" does mean "forever"). Psalm 104:30 talks about God "renew(ing) the face of the earth"; the apostles regarded the Psalms as prophecy, and this actually refers back to Genesis 1:2 as well (the word "was" in that verse should have been translated "became", from Hebrew hayatah).

Also, the phrase "end of the world" in Matthew 24:3 comes from Greek synteleias tou aionos, which properly translates as "end of the age".

Now remind me what blog I was "pimping" . . . ? Oh yeah, none at all. I can perhaps link to this, though.
14 posted on 05/18/2011 3:40:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Oh I see now, you are nit-picking the word “destroy” - does it mean “melt” or does it mean instead “turn into plasma.”

So if you’re standing on the surface of the earth at the time God destroys the old earth, will you melt or turn into plasma. That’s the big question in your mind. Okay, got it.


15 posted on 05/18/2011 3:45:24 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: grumpa

“Did you know that the Bible does not even mention the end of the physical universe?”

The end of the Universe? Where did they ever here a Christian say anything like that? And most Chritians will agree that the Earth will not be “destroyed” as like the Death Star blowing up Alderann. It will be purified by Fire.


16 posted on 05/18/2011 3:45:24 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Now remind me what blog I was "pimping"

Okay, Mr. Nit-Picker, I got a question for you- WHERE did I say that YOU were pimping a blog? Hmmmm?

Oh wait, you were just nit-picked! LOL

17 posted on 05/18/2011 3:48:22 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: grumpa

The world can’t end on the 21st because I have a pedicure appointment for the 23rd.


18 posted on 05/18/2011 3:50:01 PM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: grumpa

Can you post the whole blog, please? Some of us are on handhelds.


19 posted on 05/18/2011 3:54:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Never mind, I got it.

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Judgment Day May 21, 2011
Posted on May 18, 2011 by prophecyquestions
Here we go again—Judgment Day. This time Harold Camping called it for this weekend, May 21. His billboard ads read: “The Bible Guarantees It!” We even heard this mentioned this week on CNBC, of all places. Confused Christians have been calling for the end of the world for a very long time, embarrassing themselves and the rest of Christianity.

Did you know that the Bible does not even mention the end of the physical universe? I’m sure this will come to a shock to Christians who do not know their Bible. So let’s take a look.

There are two basic places people point to when they think the Bible speaks of the end of the world—the books of Matthew and the books of 1st and 2nd Peter.

In the King James Version of the book of Matthew Jesus speaks of the “end of the world” in Matthew 13:40, 13:49, 24:3, and 28:20. But wait, modern translations including the New King James Version say here the “end of the age.” This is a big difference. When we look at the Greek we see the word translated as “world” in the King James Version is aion, which in English is age. The King James mistranslated this word! English readers of the King James Version have been misled since the year 1611. If Jesus had wanted to say the end of the physical world, he would have used the word kosmos.

So what age is Jesus speaking about? In the so-called Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21) we find the largest body of prophecy outside of the book of Revelation. Here Jesus gives a list of things that will happen, including the destruction of the temple. And he gives a time line when they will all happen—his generation. This is perhaps clearest in Luke 21:22 and 32. Since the thrust of the prophecy is the temple, it makes perfect sense that Jesus is talking about the end of the Old Covenant Age. The Old Covenant Age ended in 70 AD when the temple was destroyed, over a million Jews were killed by the Romans, the nation of Israel ceased to exist—and the ancient system of temple sacrifices for sin ended forever.

By the way, the phrase “this generation” which is the time-line Jesus puts on his prophecies, appears 23 times outside the Olivet Discourse. Every time it clearly means the generation of people living at the time of Jesus. There is no rational reason for translating it any other way in the Olivet Discourse.

This time line— the first century—is confirmed in 100 other Bible passages! Most if not all Bible prophecy was fulfilled in the first generation unless Jesus and the writers of the New Testament were false prophets.

The other place people try to find the end of the world is Peter’s epistles. But Peter does not say the end of the world. What he does mention is the expectation of a cataclysmic event to happen very soon. In 1 Peter 4:17 Peter say, “The end of all things is near/at hand.” Since the end of the physical universe did not come to pass in the time frame he spoke of, either he was a false prophet or he was speaking about something other than the end of the world. We conclude that Peter was speaking, as Jesus was, about the end of all old covenant things.

Peter uses a variety of phrases in his epistles such as the “Day of the Lord,” the “destruction of the heavens by fire,” the “new heaven and earth,” etc. But such astronomical language is commonplace language throughout the Bible to speak in non-literal language about actual judgments by God on guilty people—all of which are past events!

It fits in precisely with the prophecies of Jesus, from whom Peter would have gotten his own ideas about the coming judgment upon the Jews. All these prophecies, as well as many in the Old Testament were about the coming desolation of Jerusalem and the temple, not the end of the world.


20 posted on 05/18/2011 4:05:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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