Posted on 07/14/2011 5:01:55 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
President Obama has issued his debt threat: No Social Security for you! Unless the Rethugs agree to raise the debt ceiling by August 2, Obama is threatening to withhold SS checks. That's right, Mr. President, make an empty threat designed to scare seniors sh*tless, in order to get your way! Such leadership!
So, is this brilliant political strategy or irresponsible scare tactics? Opinion is divided in DUmmieland, as we see in this THREAD, "If no deal by Aug. 2, Obama can't guarantee Social Security checks will go out."
So let us see what the DUmmies think of Obama's debt threat, in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson, who wouldn't mind if Social Security TAXES went away after August 2, is in the [Barackets]:
If no deal by Aug. 2, Obama can't guarantee Social Security checks will go out
[You've heard of MediScare, the Democrats' favorite scare tactic? This is a variation on the theme: Social Insecurity, aka Social Scarity.]
the situation which the GOP will be blamed for.
[Brilliant! Let the country default, scare the seniors, saddle our grandchildren with a mountain of debt--it doesn't matter, as long as we can blame the Rethugs!]
Why on earth would he not be able to guarantee SS payments? This is a threat, a bluff, and a terrible one.
[But look, this is an opportunity to scare seniors and blame Rethugs! What's not to like?]
I don't think you understand basic politics.
[It's very base indeed.]
If I worked for the feds, I would volunteer to work on the mailing. Ditto if I were a member of Congress or a staffer of a member. Has he asked anyone to volunteer?
[I want to see Barney Frank down in the mailroom, stuffing envelopes. He has Franking privileges, you know.]
In his statements about halting OASDI payments. . . .
[DUmmie No Elephants drops the inside-baseball, I'm-smarter-than-you "OASDI" term. "OASDI" stands for "Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance," and apparently, it's the technical term for Social Security. Of course, no one in real life refers to Social Security as "OASDI." But DUmmie No Elephants does. A lot. EIGHTEEN TIMES in this thread she says "OASDI"--and no one else does! No one asks her, "No Elephants, you keep using this term 'OASDI.' What does that mean? Please enlighten us. Boy, you must be pretty smart to know that insider lingo!" But no one takes the bait! Hee! Hee! No Elephants is the Know-it-all Nadin of this thread.]
does Obama really make a very clear distinction between direct deposit checks--the bulk of the payments--and hand mailed checks, or does he just alarm ALL feeble disabled and elderly folks?
[Alarm them all! Scare seniors sh*tless! It's a tried-and-true Democrat tactic.]
he is playing a very sick game and I do not like it!
[What are you, some kind of LOUSY FREEPER TROLL???]
What do the tax cuts have to do with the deficit? EVERYTHING. They caused the deficit.
[Spending has nothing to do with the deficit at all. NOTHING.]
it's a smart move by Obama. This forces AARP and Seniors who are already pissed off at the Republicans and Paul Ryan to get into the fight.
[Now they'll be pissing into their Depends out of fright.]
Yeah, nothing's as smart as scaring the beejesus out of the elderly and disabled so they fight your battles for you.
[I detect a note of sarcasm.]
He is lying , or playing naive , he can Guarantee it
[Obama can GUARANTEE that he's a liar!]
Let's wait and see if this backfires on him before we comment on how smart this is.
[No, no, this is a BRILLIANT move by Obama! Guaranteed to work! Get those champagne bottles chilled down fast, we're gettin' ready to PAR-TEE!!]
He's using the life insurance salesman's ploy. Selling fear.
[The Democrats' chief weapon is fear. . . . Fear and class warfare. . . . Their two chief weapons are fear and class warfare. . . .]
Booga Booga. You created this Administration, Mr. O. Congratulations on the FUBAR.
[The era of Booga Government is almost over.]
What does the Administration have to do with the default?
The administration has nothing to do with it. It's our fault.
[Silly, it's BUSH'S default, remember?]
So it's okay to play politics with people's livelihood? Kinda f***ed up, if you ask me.
[Nobody asked you.]
Apparently, IOKIODI. (It's O.K if Obama does it.) If Bush had done this, though. WOWZA!
[WOWZA. (We Oppose W Zealously Always.)]
This man is Disgust personified. Does he think we're all stupid?
[Is that a rhetorical question?]
it IS theft and fraud, it's a giant ponzi scheme
[A most succinct description of Social Security, thank you. However, I cannot guarantee your Kewpie Doll will go out.]
I believe the government will end social security and medicare, but they will have to do it slowly. . . .
[Great! Just give me back what I paid in, don't tax me anymore on these stupid programs, and I'll fend for myself.]
Leave it be said ( and I know this to be a fact), there are private groups of citizens forming all over the country to take on the government if they deny the people their justly earned benefits. I will be with these people with every piece or hardware I can carry. I would rather have the US go down completely than live under the rule of Koch Brother types.
[The DUAC Militia is drilling as we speak. In an undisclosed location somewhere on Skins's Island, the primitives are applying war paint and sharpening their sticks. Drums are beating rhythmically, as campfires are being lit. "Re-vo-LU-tion, re-vo-LU-tion," the drums call out. . . .]
This is probably the first intelligent thing he has done.
[Damning with faint prez.]
Put fear into vets, the disabled and seniors? For what?
[For political advantage, of course.]
Dangerous game of chicken and not what a leader should do.
[Chicken Stoop.]
He is the POTUS. The buck stops with him.
[The bucks stop with him.]
Bad move. The Republicans won't care if we eat cat food.
[Your cat will.]
He is a damn fool for pulling this one out of his hip pocket. It will hang over his head until he is no longer the President and thereafter as well. It could damage the Democratic party as a whole in fact! What a freakin fool he is. ENOUGH OF THE CRAP ALREADY MR. PRESIDENT!!!!!!!
[CRAP AND TIRADE!]
Soon it will look like the streets of Calcutta the way things are going. As for Pres. Obama - he can go to hell! . . . SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU MR. PRESIDENT!
[I'll take that as a "Disapprove."]
There is a difference in understanding displayed in this thread. That makes me sad.
I am always amazed when I see posts like this one. It makes me sad.
Reactionary Screamers make me sad. . . .
[You know what makes me sad? YOU DO! No wait, on second thought, you DUmmies make me LAFF!]
Figure on eating your last fresh fruit or vegetable in the fall. . . .
[Veggie Fails: The Rise and Fall of the Romaine Expire]
some of us seniors know we are about to be put out to slaughter through no fault of Obama.
[Where do you think more cat food will come from?]
I don't even think a Republican would make this threat.
WHAT threat?
[Obama's debt threat.]
Scaring old and disabled people is poor leadership. . . .
[But it's one of the two chief cards the Democrats play. Scaring old people and class warfare. . . . And the race card. . . . THREE. . . . Amongst the cards the Democrats play. . . .]
He just played the "GOP starving the seniors" card...hahahaha!
[And more debt threats to come! What a guy!]
PING!
Death more like it.
If someone needs vital medicine and SS is their only income, people may die.
Here are Obama’s thoughts on the debt limit in 2006, when he voted against increasing the ceiling:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
… Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
My idea for dealing with our spending problems is that we eliminate a dozen or so expensive job killing regulatory agencies. People moving into the workforce would no longer be required pay into social security. Those exiting the workforce would get what is owed from the money saved by the elimination of the regulatory agencies. Plus such a plan would make it easier to slash welfare rolls.
Inside of 15 years we could probably completely eliminate involuntary SS.
They use that money for foreigners/illegals and everything else but what it was designed for. They wouldn't give that up. IMO
Minus the TU.
IOKIOHOASDI
O's Calcutta!
The boy needs a big win over the GOOBERS on the debt ceiling in order to get reelected. Screw the Americans. He's a Kenyan and could care less about old, American fogies and their Social Security checks.
We need to push the message that under Obama, old people can't afford to eat cat food!
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Has anyone considered the possibility that this guy hates America enough to choose to default on purpose and to stop the checks and food stamps?
They want anarchy and revolution and it would be one way to make it happen faster.
$38,500 per couple entrence fee.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all. They would surely see that the Republicans
took the blame.
But a lot of people no better. It’s not like the past when we had to communicate with drums.
Really. Who is it that has the the money again? /s
No wonder the blue states are in such bad shape. 0’s draining them dry, plus all their BIG donors. You know, those big business donors that the left accuse the right of having.
Just for you.
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