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Understanding the Unexpected (and Unfunded) Rise of Newt Gingrich
Reaganite Republican ^ | November 14, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:16:56 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

Yeah, he's got more baggage than 
Lady Gaga on a 3-month European tour... 
many conservatives are starting to say 'so what?'

Newt Gingrich articulates conservative positions like no other Republican candidate...  everybody knows this (genuine) constitutional scholar would rip Obama a new one in any debate

With 'Newt 2012' funds scarce-to-nonexistent, his recent and unlikely comeback in the polls was driven almost exclusively by magnificent TV debate performances as the deep-pockets boys hit choppy waters.

And Gingrich doesn't take a one speck of crap from underhanded old-guard media still attempting to prop-up the teetering Obama regime, either. This, along with his strongly-professed Christian/Catholic faith- play well with the conservative GOP base (of which I am a proud part).

Today -after dismissing him as a top-tier candidate initially- a lot of Republicans are coming to the dawning realization that given the current choices, Newt most closely approximates what they've been looking for. This healing process between voter and votee has been aided somewhat by Gingrich's frank admission of errors re. the Scozzafava debacle and in posing with Nancy Pelosi for a climate-change ad- "the dumbest single thing I've done in years". 

Pollsters now find him surging, and right into second in South Carolina. Suddenly, we have a new three-horse race- one poll out Friday even put Gingrich in second place nationally, right smack-dab behind Romney.

Personally, it's been defense and foreign policy issues that leave me wanting for a GOP 2012 candidate to this point: only Bachmann, Palin, and (yes) Trump ever said the kind of things I need to hear re. Iran, Israel, Russia, etc- yet obviously none of them contenders at this point. But Gingrich sounds great (foreign policy) in the video below, and if his administration could find some room for -say, John Bolton somewhere in there- that would be the kind of thing that could perk my interest quick.

Perhaps noble Cain supporters expected peace-though-strength Republicans to be won over to the man -who I like and respect- in CBS's ill-managed attempt at a foreign policy debate last Wednesday. I'd been looking forward to this one of course, yet in the case of Herman Cain he seemed lost and out-of-his-element, an oft-repeated default response being he would 'consult with his experts', etc.  
Since I can't fathom the thought of initiating a federal VAT sales tax (as 9-9-9 proposes), I don't think Herman Cain is going to work out for me- not unless it comes down to him, Romney, and/or Perry of course. 
But for now there are other people in the 2012 race, including of course Newt Gingrich. Make no mistake, he's got plenty of challenges waiting for him along any path to the GOP nomination, and I'm not just talking about the affairs/apparent moral lapses, (we're all sinners). 

The Gingrich campaign is basically broke for one -although cash is starting to come in lately- as it faces well-financed Romney and Perry smear machines that have yet to train their guns. Think there's nothing left to dig up on Newt? Consider that he's been out of political office for over a decade -while Perry and Romey have been under far closer scrutiny in recent years-  and it's something to think about.
But I've long said that I want a fighter to really bring it to Obama in 2012... one thing for sure, you get that with Gingrich- a smart one, too. And his forthcoming confession of RINO sins is at minimum a refreshing change from the obfuscation  spin, and fake UltraBrite smile you get from Mittens when you ask him about his unsettling past involvement with statism and statists.

If I had to vote tomorrow -and Bachmann still had no prayer, as it now appears- I think I would have to pull for Newt... and I'm not the only one.

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1 posted on 11/14/2011 6:16:58 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Which Newt is going to show up to “fight”?

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/gingrich-health-care-insurance/2011/05/15/id/396426

Gingrich Backs Obamacare’s Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance (May 2011)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gingrich-obamacare-and-individual-mandate_607924.html

Nov 2011

In response to a follow-up question from Charles Krauthammer about whether he opposed the mandate as a matter of policy or constitutionality, Gingrich replied, “I believe that it is unconstitutional for the Congress to require you to buy something…because then the Congress could require you to do anything.”


2 posted on 11/14/2011 6:19:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Great policy wonk, yes. Good leadership and decision making abilities, marginal at best.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 6:19:57 AM PST by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

It’s a sad spectacle watching the death throes of such a grand old party.


4 posted on 11/14/2011 6:21:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Hmmm ... It IS interesting that someone with no money and an apparently obvious distaste for politics as usual and the whoreing lamestream media is getting such face time.

I remember the earlier 'debates' didn't have a lot of Newt, but the few times he spoke, he commanded attention.

Personally, I want Newt to denounce a few things .. pelosi's couch and a few others.

His daughter has put to rest the dieing wife divorce story, so ... maybe Newt IS viable.

I'm glad we still have a year.

5 posted on 11/14/2011 6:32:31 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: EternalVigilance
"It’s a sad spectacle watching the death throes of such a grand old party nation".

There, fixed it for you. CBS finally gets the stones to do a real journalism piece, scratching the surface as to why people spend millions to get a job that pays $174k annually, and there is barely any reaction. Insider trading that's legal. I wonder how Martha Stewart felt watching that?

A super committee that isn't. They won't make the deadline, now they're talking about changing the rules again.

Not a single candidate for president I'd trust. Certainly Obama is the least qualified, and least trustworthy, but the others are all significantly flawed.

A news media that refuses to cover things fairly, and an electorate concerned only with ipads, smart phones, and shopping.

Reality isn't pretty.
6 posted on 11/14/2011 6:33:22 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan

Point well taken.


7 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: brownsfan
Not a single candidate for president I'd trust.

Agree.

8 posted on 11/14/2011 6:35:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: knarf

He DID denounce Pelosi’s couch, AND a few other things.

Check it out, and I’m hoping you’ll find that his very, very, strong points outweigh his admittedly large volume of baggage.

He’s not my “perfect” candidate, but none of them are, especially the viable ones.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 6:36:38 AM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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To: brownsfan

If you want fundmental change in the US political system you got 2 choices. Cain or Paul. The election of either would be a 9.9 political earthquake.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 6:36:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: EternalVigilance

I think Newt could well be just the right guy to help bring the GOP party back to what it is supposed to be. Of course he’s not perfect but he would have the gravitas to begin a process that could be followed up on and he would sure be an example of taking a stand against not only the media but the stupid far left as well. He may just be the right one to put some shame into GOP party to start to stand for something. He certainly is the only one to explain things that even the media seems to have a hard time arguing with.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 6:37:14 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: knarf

“Personally, I want Newt to denounce a few things .. “

He’s admitted mistakes as far as the Pelosi couch thing. The thing I find most troubling about Gingrich is once they passed the contract with America, they fell back into business as usual, (that is to say corrupt big government), almost the next day.


12 posted on 11/14/2011 6:38:16 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Yep, me too.

Gingrich can and will bring it. Cain has troubles with pro-life and 999 additional source of fed revenue. Perry has problems saying what he wants to say or knowing what he wants to say. Bachmann is a one-trick pony (did you know she was the first to want to repeal obamacare?). Santorum, I like because of his solid pro-life record and his deep thinking ability, but he strikes others as a whiner so he’s getting no traction. Paul can’t seem to hear a foreign policy debate without going suicide bomber all over himself.

Gingrich has his known foibles, his forays into political positions that must be explained, but on the other hand, he is the LAST person in the US to have actually balanced the US budget. Other than that he fits my definition of conservative: pro-life, pro-God, pro-gun, pro-natural marriage and family, pro-American exceptionalism, pro-military, pro-strong America foreign policy, and pro-fiscal sanity.

He stands for all those things, and he just blows everybody else away in debates. Gingrich is to all comers as Cheney was to Edwards in their famous sit-down debate in 2004.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 6:38:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MNJohnnie

We got a fundamental change with BO. How’s that workin’ out for ya?


14 posted on 11/14/2011 6:39:12 AM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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To: moonhawk
Excellent point;

"Check it out, and I’m hoping you’ll find that his very, very, strong points outweigh his admittedly large volume of baggage"

15 posted on 11/14/2011 6:40:49 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: brownsfan

On top of that, Newt’s a quitter, he decided that selling books was more important than serving his constituents, even though he was overwhelmingly reelected to his House seat in 1998.


16 posted on 11/14/2011 6:41:41 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Ah, a series of adult thoughts and comments. Not intentionally inflamatory, not hostile, just honest statements of some facts and some opinions.

Better look out. You are likely to be flamed. There is always (actually, more than) one who is dependable to fill that role and he is sure to pop up shortly. Uh oh, I see he is already at it!

Anyway, it will be interesting to read the comments as they weigh in on the relative merit of yours. We’ll enjoy the cerebral ones, and pass over the others.


17 posted on 11/14/2011 6:42:32 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: petercooper

Love Newt in the debates and most issues, but his Global Warming stand kills it. He claims skeptics are wrong about GW and would not be for Cap & Trade, but what would he be for?

Pray for America


18 posted on 11/14/2011 6:44:52 AM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: Reaganite Republican

FYI..National review has a poll on their home page today..who do you prefer..Cain or Gingrich?..Newt gets 75% of the vote..


19 posted on 11/14/2011 6:45:51 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: knarf

Thank you.

Another thought:

How many of us realize Newt has had a religeous conversion (to the Catholic Church), in 2009 I think? Many FReepers seem to think that Jesus died for their sins, but not for Newt’s, or that their own repentance was more sincere than Newt’s. I am not one of those.

I have had to repent of some very painful stuff in my own life, and I must assume that Newt’s conversion and repentance are as genuine as my own.

I think Newt may be capable of sparking a great American political revival.


20 posted on 11/14/2011 6:46:27 AM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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To: CynicalBear
I think Newt could well be just the right guy to help bring the GOP party back to what it is supposed to be.

Respectfully, that's insanity.

But, it's your party. Carry on if you must.

21 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: xzins

IMO, Newt has ONE BIG problem..Callista...he has a good chance of getting the nomination, but she will turn off a lot of women voters in the general election..


22 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:41 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: brownsfan

As a fellow (lifelong) Browns fan, I can say nobody knows harsh reality like a Dawg Pounder lol


23 posted on 11/14/2011 6:48:31 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: moonhawk

ABSOLUTELY AGREE! If Newt has had an honest “come-to-Jesus” change in his mind/heart/life, what an incredible opportunity for Good to be: 1) known and understood, and 2) discussed in the public forum, and 3) acted on.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 6:50:24 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: MNJohnnie

“If you want fundmental change in the US political system you got 2 choices. Cain or Paul. “

Fundamental change? Obama gave us fundamental change. I don’t trust either of those men, although Cain is much more likely to do a good job than Paul. Ron Paul would be a dynamic force for the country economically, while he trashed our foreign policy. Cain would be earn while he learned foreign policy. And while there is a great thirst for outsiders, a president must know how to get things done, in a political fashion. Reagan’s experience as Governor, and in the SAG was key. It gave Reagan the tools he needed to twist arms in an acceptable fashion.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 6:56:35 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: xzins

We agree. Well said, it really is time for ABO, (anyone but Obama), however, given a choice, root for newt.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:10 AM PST by wita
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To: Reaganite Republican

“As a fellow (lifelong) Browns fan, I can say nobody knows harsh reality like a Dawg Pounder lol”

Ugh. I’ve all but given up. Mike Holmgren is yet another in a long line of washed up sports figures coming to Cleveland for that last big payday before retirement.

The team is as bad, and unwatchable now, as they were in 1999. I was golfing yesterday during the game. At this point, my screen name is a misnomer.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 6:59:51 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: moonhawk
As a born again Christian (age 33, 1981), I am acutely aware of the changes The Lord does in a man after conversion.

Politics seems to be the one place that little forgiveness is given for a/the past.


Again .. I'm glad we still have a year.

28 posted on 11/14/2011 7:00:57 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ken5050

Callista is just fine. Watched her on the “God in America” videos and had no problem whatsoever.


29 posted on 11/14/2011 7:03:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MNJohnnie
MNJohnnie... It must be tiring to have to troll all of the Newt related post so that you can drop you canned copy/paste attacks. So let me help you out with that. You forgot one of your favorites so I'll provide here it for you so that you don't have to exert yourself...

How about you try making a case FOR your candidate instead of childishly attacking Cain on a personal level.

There that should take care of anybody that should say anything critical of Cain in this thread from now and into the future...

Don't thank me... I was glad to be of help...
30 posted on 11/14/2011 7:05:28 AM PST by TBBT
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To: EternalVigilance

My party? What party is that? You seem to be all knowing so how about naming “my party”. Well, I’ve noticed that the only thing you have done is bash current candidates but have not shown a better candidate. If you can’t put forth a candidate that you prefer what good is some fringe “party”.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 7:06:42 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: xzins

I hope you’re right...I’ve only seen her on TV a few times..she strikes me as a cold fish..I assume that she’s been kept off the campaign so far because of the Tiffany reports..as he contnues to rise in the polls, and he will..she’ll have to get out there more..


32 posted on 11/14/2011 7:06:56 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: brownsfan

That is just factually not true!!!


33 posted on 11/14/2011 7:08:03 AM PST by ontap
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To: CynicalBear
"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon will be, void of all regard for his country. There is seldom an instance of a man guilty of betraying his country, who had not before lost the feeling of moral obligations in his private connections."

~- Samuel Adams

34 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: moonhawk

“How many of us realize Newt has had a religeous conversion (to the Catholic Church), in 2009 I think”

And with Newt, you have to wonder if it was done for political expediency...


35 posted on 11/14/2011 7:10:34 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: TBBT

You were the one who thought it was such clever politics to run around posting childish personal attacks at Cain on every thread. Don’t start pouting now that people are punching back at your candidate of choice.


36 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:03 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: EternalVigilance

Tell me something. If a person turns to Christ and shows in his life that he has can we expect a change in that person from what he was before?


37 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:03 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: knarf

Good for you!

At age 20 (in college) I was torn between my Episcopalian upbringing and not non-belief, but actual disbelief. For 22 years I was a hard-core atheist. Nothing but disdain and contempt for “the weak” people of faith.

Fortunately, God loved me just as I was, and loved me too much to leave me that way. 22 years later the radio ministry of Charles Stanley (over the airwaves) and an HONEST man of God showed me my incredible foolishness (and worse).

Syrupy, saccharine group hugs (in the name of Christian faith and action) were simple turn-offs to me. It took the HONESTY of the whole message (not only that we can be forgiven, but the flip side too—we need salvation because we are sinners) being delivered. Sadly, many seem afraid to deliver that 2nd half for fear of “scaring people off”.

But it is the Truth, and it is, therefore, necessary.

And how grateful I am and have been ever since (1/25/1988).


38 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:04 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I don't deign to question a person's relationship with his maker! Fact is a religious conversion is a two sided sword. It rarely has much of an impact politically.
39 posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:12 AM PST by ontap
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
>> And with Newt, you have to wonder if it was done for political expediency...<<

Wow! Do you have a special ability to see the heart or are you just winging it?

40 posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:54 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: TBBT

Funny! And thanks.


41 posted on 11/14/2011 7:17:09 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: EternalVigilance

Everyone has the choice to repent and become a better person....even Newt Gingrich!!!


42 posted on 11/14/2011 7:18:09 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

“That is just factually not true!!!”

Really? So, they did what they said they would do? Run down the list and tell me how many of these actually happened in any substantial way.

“On the first day of their majority in the House, the Republicans promised to pass eight major reforms:

1. require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
2. select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
3. cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
4. limit the terms of all committee chairs;
5. ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
6. require committee meetings to be open to the public;
7. require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
8. guarantee an honest accounting of the Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 7:21:29 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: knarf
I'm glad we still have a year.

Not quite. The contrived, perhaps even unconstitutional presidential primary "basketball tournament" schedule could have the nomination (and if it ends up like '96, for example, the election itself) more or less over by late March to late April.

44 posted on 11/14/2011 7:29:23 AM PST by Prospero
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To: ken5050
Newt gets 75% of the vote

That is about all McCain would get in 2008 primaries, too. Seldom did he get more than 75% of the vote, even after he had the nomination locked up.

Result: He got about the same in the General and lost the EV by a 2-1 margin.

For all his glory in the debates, Newt is still Newt when the misty eyes clear. He is eratic and inconsistent; you never know which side he is going to take. GW Bush became that way in his 2nd term, too. And Newt is the quintessential beltway insider. He has resided there since he left the House. He IS neck-deep establishment and that makes him part of the existing problem in Washington.

The MSM would have a field day, going through Newt's trainload of baggage, piece by piece, day after day, for the General Election against their torch bearer.
45 posted on 11/14/2011 7:30:32 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: JimInMO
Notice how when anyone voices a valid fact or points out something out about Cain that contradicts the propaganda we are being fed here, that they are all “childish” attacks and “lies”?

But all through the Palin months, the same tone was leveled at those who did not favor her. And 4%’er Cain was not even mentioned or given any recognition by this same group of people. And it is the same people who viciously protected Palin are now doing nearly the same for Cain.

Is it by some miracle, Palin quits and overnight, Cain is the savior of America and will revolutionize Washington? Even though, like Palin he has no clue how to go about that. Don't you find that somewhat strange? I do.

46 posted on 11/14/2011 7:30:48 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Prospero

F’got about that ... thanx


47 posted on 11/14/2011 7:31:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TomGuy
You just set the stage for Romney. The moderates and independents will surely go for Romney.

Between Paul, Gingrich, Cain, etc, we all know they will stay in the primaries all through the 3rd or 4th primary, similar to 2008. And the split among the base will favor Romney. This is becoming so predictable.

48 posted on 11/14/2011 7:36:04 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yup! And the fact is that we can have an adult (there I go again, using that word) conversation, honestly analyzing the facts, discussing different understandings and takes on them, and work toward POSITIVE outcomes.

Instead of attempting to be so right (slashing and tearing away at the Republican candidates) that only a single, bloodied, and wobbly one eventually remains—all primed and ready for the Democrat meat grinder.


49 posted on 11/14/2011 7:40:44 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: CynicalBear; ontap

Newt Gingrich is the personification of the unprincipled Republican establishment. If you all want to play pretend that this isn’t so, there is nothing I can do about that.


50 posted on 11/14/2011 7:42:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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