Skip to comments.Romney Insists He Is as Consistent as Humanly Possible
Posted on 11/14/2011 11:00:40 AM PST by John Semmens
GOP presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney sought to rebuff critics contentions that he is a flip-flopper by insisting that he has been as consistent as is humanly possible.
Everyone knows that variety is the spice of life, Romney suggested. No sane person orders the exact same item from a menu every time he dines. Different days, different occasions call for different decisions. Americans want a president who is consistent enough to recognize this reality and revise his policies to fit constantly changing circumstances. They dont want somebody who robotically strives for lower taxes and spending regardless of circumstances.
The healthcare issue that has provided much of the ammunition for his critics was taken up by Romney as an example of his fundamental consistency. Look, given the circumstances I was faced with, passing a universal healthcare mandate in Massachusetts was the right thing to do, Romney argued. But now that Im running for the GOP nomination I need the votes of people who oppose such a system. To get these votes I have to bash Obamacare. If it becomes necessary to alter course in the future voters can count on me to do so.
My record is clear, Romney concluded. I am consistently flexible. I have the agility this country needs in these critical times. Surely, this is more presidential than a policy of consistent inflexibility. I think if you look at our past few presidents youll see that Im of a kind that the American voters have consistently endorsed.
The label sez “semi satire,” but the writing sez “real time RINOmney”.
Willey boy is just that...a boy who will say anything to gain recognition.
“I used to be a flip flopper, but I’ve flip flopped on that.”
LOL, maybe you should change the semi-satire to something like predictive-satire or psychic-satire.
He changes positions as easily as Clinton, and is almost as good of a liar.
ALL: How does Romney's LIFE define "consistently flexible" on his approach to treating our pre-born offspring as human beings? [see chart below]
Btw, Mitt, how would you like it if people were "consistently flexible" on whether or not to treat you as human...on whether or not they should daily accord you any civil rights???
|YEAR||Obvious Pro-Abortion Romney||Romney Feigning Pro-Life|
|Romney, goin back to 1970 when Romneys Mom ran for Senate||I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy)||Hes been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly, Romney adviser Michael Murphy told the conservative National Review..., says the Concord Monitor = So I guess that made him a below-the-radar flip acting like a flop?|
|1994 (Campaign)||I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) = Mitt the flipster from what most LDS represent their faith as being...BTW, Romney uses the strongest word possible for support "sustain"...Note for non-Mormons: Lds use the word "sustain" for support for their own "prophet"||Romney has since invoked a nuanced stance about what he was in 1994: He says Look, I was pro-choice. I am pro-life. You can go back to YouTube and look at what I said in 1994. I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. (Source: Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007)|
|1994 (Planned Parenthood ties) 2001||(a) Romneys wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood... (b) On June 12, 1994, Romney himself attends private Planned Parenthood event at home of a sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood board member where the president of Planned Parenthood recalls talking to Romney: Nicki Nichols Gamble, a former president and chief executive of Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts, said today that the photo shows Mitt and Ann Romney at a private home in Cohasset in June 1994. Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941932/posts; Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie's house and that she 'clearly' remembered speaking with Romney at the event. Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941627/posts; In fact Romney personally attended the Planned Parenthood event in question on June 12, 1994. Gamble, the President of Massachusuetts Planned Parenthood in 1994, also attended the event at the home of a Republican, Eleanor Bleakie, the sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood Board member. Both Romney and Michael Kennedy, who appeared on behalf of nephew of Ted Kennedy, attended the event. Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941240/posts||2001: I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice. (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01) = So he doesnt want to be known as a flop (so what is he?)|
|2002-2004||°I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose, and have devoted and am dedicated to honoring my word in that regard"(Nov. 2, 2002) = Well, now guess what? Hes solidly pro-abortion AGAIN! See also: I respect and will protect a womans right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the governments. (Stephanie Ebbert, Clarity Sought On Romneys Abortion Stance, The Boston Globe, 7/3/05) = Ah, back securely in the flop saddle again?||Nov. 04: Romney & his wife had simultaneous pro-life conversions linked to stem cell research: Romney met w/Dr. Douglas Melton from Harvard Stem Cell Institute: He recalls that it happened in a single revelatory moment, during a Nov. 9, 2004, meeting with an embryonic-stem-cell researcher who said he didnt believe therapeutic cloning presented a moral issue because the embryos were destroyed at 14 days. It hit me very hard that we had so cheapened the value of human life in a Roe v. Wade environment that it was important to stand for the dignity of human life, Romney says. Source: Time Mag, March 9, 2007 = (So the pro-abortion-but-no-pro-choice-label-please-is-now-a-pro-life-convert?)|
|2005||May 27 2005: Romney affirms his commitment to being pro-choice at a press conference. (I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.) = OK, this is at least a flop from November 04!||What about his gubernatorial record 03-06? Mitt later says his actions were ALL pro-life. I assume somewhere in 05 some pro-life decisions. As governor, I've had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I¡¯ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life. = So, THESE ACTIONS were not only an 02 commitment reversal, but his May 27, 05 press conference commitment as well. So flipping is beginning to be routine|
|2006||April 12, 2006Mitt signs his Commonwealth Care into existence, thereby expanding abortion access/taxpayer funded abortions for womenincluding almost 2% of the females of his state who earn $75,000 or more. (Wait a minute, I thought he told us post-06 that ALL of his actions were pro-life?). Also, not only this, but as governor, Romney could exercise veto power to portions of Commonwealth Care. Did Romney exercise this power? (Yes, he vetoed Sections 5, 27, 29, 47, 112, 113, 134 & 137). What prominent section dealing with Planned Parenthood as part of the payment policy advisory board did Romney choose NOT to veto? (Section 3) That section mandates that one member of MassHealth Payment Policy Board must be appointed by Planned Parenthood League of MA. (See chapter 58 of the Acts of 2006, section 3 for details).||As governor, I've had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I¡¯ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life. = So, then THESE ACTIONS were not only a reversal of his 2002 commitment, but his May 27, 2005 press conference commitment. So flipping is still routine|
|Early 2007||On January 29, 2007 during South Carolina visit, Romney stated: ¡°Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice. (Bruce Smith, Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint, The Associated Press, 1/29/07) = OK how could every action Ive taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life... AND this statement BOTH be true?||Another South Carolina campaign stop has Romney uttering I was always for life": I am firmly pro-life¡ I was always for life. (Jim Davenport, Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion, The Associated Press, 2/9/2007) = Oh, of course as the above shows, hes always been pro-life!|
|Summer 2007||I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007 = OK...looking at 94 & 02 campaigns, both his public statements, his 2002 voter guide responses, & his actions (which are a major form of expression, ya know!) how could he say he never said he was pro-choice?||Then comes his 8/12/07 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox: I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didnt FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasnt pro-choice, and so... = Whatever he was from 70 when his mom ran as pro-abortion senator & he sided w/ her, to 5/27/05, w/whatever interruption he had due to a pro-life altar call in Nov of 04, whatever that was...well, he assures us it wasnt a pro-abortion inlook or outlook cause he didnt feel pro-choice... = So does that make him a life-long pro-lifer?|
|December 2007 (Anything different from embryos perspective than June 2002?)||5.5 years before -- June 13, 2002: Romney: ...spoke at a bioethics forum at Brandeis University. In a Boston Globe story filed the next day, he was quoted as saying that he endorsed embryonic stem cell research, hoping it would one day cure his wifes multiple sclerosis. And he went on to say: I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and fight for stem cell research, before adding, Id be happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though I dont know if I could budge him an inch. When pressed, however, Romney and his aides declined to offer an opinion on therapeutic or embryonic cloning. Source: Weekly Standard||December 5, 2007: Romney: ...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos. But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, thats acceptable. It should not be made against the law. Any inquiring minds want to try wrapping their minds around how a politician in one sentence mentions adopting embryos out (yes, a great thing to mention!) but then in the very NEXT breath says if a PARENT wants to be pro-choice (Mitt used the word decides which is what pro-choicers say they want) to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, thats acceptable. Say what???? How about 8-month gestationally-aged infants in the womb, Mitt? Or already-born infants, too, Mitt? If a parent decides they would want to donate one of those...for purposes of research, in my view, thats acceptable... No??? Whats the pro-life difference, Mitt? Here you call an embryos mom&dad parents but parents w/ research give-away rights? How bizarre we have such schizophrenic candidate!|
Shouldn't Romney have said that he has "been as consistent as is divinely possible" -- given that Mormons believe they are "gods in embryo?"
Many people know of Spencer W. Kimball, the 12th "prophet" of the Lds church (1973-1985), as the man who allowed blacks to become Mormon priests in 1978.
But did you know Mormonism teaches you are all "gods in embryo"???(And Kimball was one of its key proponents)
Did you know that Mormonism teaches the false "gospel" of self-transformation -- of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps to become a god? (And Kimball was one of its key proponents)
Spencer W. Kimball on these very topics:
1969 "Being a god in embryo with the seeds of godhood neatly tucked away in him, and with the power to become a god eventually, man need not despair...he must...transform himself..." (Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 173-174)
A couple he was advising in Kimball's office "did not understand that forgiveness is not a thing of days or months or even years but is a matter of intensity of feeling and transformation of self...This couple seemed to have no conception of satisfying the Lord, of paying the total penalties and obtaining a release..." (Ibid, p. 156)
To Kimball, you had to "pay the total penalties" for your sin -- vs. that being a role occupied by the true Jesus Christ.
September, 1974: Man can transform himself and he must. Man has in himself the seeds of godhood, which can germinate and grow and develop. As the acorn becomes the oak, the mortal man becomes a god. It is within his power to lift himself by his very bootstraps from the plane on which he finds himself to the plane on which he should be. It may be a long, hard lift with many obstacles, but it is a real possibility. Source: http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6057 (Spencer W. Kimball speech entitled Be Ye Therefore Perfect 9/17/74 devotional address @ BYU)
1975: Man is created in the image of God. He is a god in embryo. He has the seeds of godhood within him, and he can, if he is normal, pick himself up by his bootstraps and literally move himself from where he is to where he shows he should be." Source: http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/LovevsLust.pdf, "Love vs. Lust," Spencer W. Kimball, Provo: BYU Publications, 1975
November 1977: Self-mastery, then, is the key, and every person should study his own life, his own desires and wants and cravings, and bring them under control. Man can transform himself and he must. Man has in himself the seeds of godhood, which can germinate and grow and develop. As the acorn becomes the oak, the mortal man becomes a god. It is within his power to lift himself by his very bootstraps from the plane on which he finds himself to the plane on which he should be. It may be a long, hard lift with many obstacles, but it is a real possibility. To be perfect, one can turn to many areas as a starting place....As we have stated before, the way to perfection seems to be a changing of ones lifeto substitute the good for the evil in every case. Source: By President Spencer W. Kimball An address given to students of Weber State College, Ogden, Utah on 4 November 1977 http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=244ed0640b96b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD
July, 1978 Ensign Magazine: Lds church officially endorses Kimball Weber State College comments by publishing them in their official magazine
This quote also becomes part of Chapter 19 of what Lds officially teach college students in their Institute curricula: See http://institute.lds.org/manuals/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/doc-gosp-11-20-19.asp
1982: Man can transform himself and he must. Man has in himself the seeds of godhood, which can germinate and grow and develop. As the acorn becomes the oak, the mortal man becomes a god. It is within his power to lift himself by his very bootstraps from the plane on which he finds himself to the plane on which he should be. It may be a long, hard lift with many obstacles, but it is a real possibility" (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 1982, p.28).
More on the question...didn't Mitt mean "as is 'divinely' possible?
Mitt Romney's G-G grandfather was Parley P. Pratt, one of the early Lds "apostles."
...who did Parley Pratt say men and angels are...???
Why he said, they are of the SAME "race" and same "species" as all the gods!
Hmmm...I can just imagine Lucifer loving it when an "apostle" on earth puts angels in the same camp as "gods" plural.
Anyway, here's Parley P. Pratt's quote:
"Gods, angels, and men are all of
one great family,
widely diffused among the planetary systems as colonies, kingdoms, nations, etc.
Source: The Key to the Science of Theology, 1978, p. 21
Mitt Romney said (see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1929161/posts) about the faith of his (fore) fathers:
"I know there are some people hoping that I will simply declare in some way that my church is all well and good, but that I don't really believe it and I don't try to follow it. That's not going to happen. I'm proud of my faith. I love my faith. It is the faith of my fathers and mothers. I do my best to live by its teachings."
Even more on the question...didn't Mitt mean "as is 'divinely' possible?
Don't Mormons realize that lack of respect of their so-called "theology" is tied to the reality that their "theology" is actually anthropology?
The Mormon god is a man who got the god job with a great resume! of gods)...
Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie:
"According to [Mormon] revelation...
...he is a...
a holy and exalted Man
a glorified, resurrected Personage
[news flash: The Mormon god they pray "Our Father" to died at some point before the Mormon Jesus became his son]
having a tangible body of flesh and bones [I guess the apostle John was wrong, eh, about God being Spirit -- see John 4:23-24]
an ANTHROPOMORPHIC ENTITY,
the personal Father of the spirits of all men [this last means there's a mom-god @ Kolob w/whom this God had sex with to yield your spirit before you came to earth]
Source: Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 250
I mean, come now: Who wants an anthropomorphic entity --a man-made religion about a man who made his godhood level by landing the "god job" -- whose divinity didn't precede His anthro aspects?
ALSO: McConkie (above) and Parley Pratt (cited last post) weren't the only Lds "apostles" to pretend that men are equal with God -- of the same race:
Lds "apostle" John Widtsoe originally published in 1915 called Rational Theology.
Widtsoe in that book made this same slandering claim ..a slander of God that reduced him to be of slime and then mortal origins:
"God and man are of the same race..." (Widtsoe, p. 61)
There ya go: The "god" of the faith of his "fathers" -- for Mr. Romney -- is of the "same race" from eternity past as you and me.
He wasn't simply a god who condescended to become human (like the Son of God, Jesus)...he was goo to human to god per Lds Doctrine & Covenants (93:29,33) + other Lds general authority statements.
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Even out-does Gumby!
What else is there to add?
Well; when one considers what his GOD has said:
Doctrine and Covenants
And a commandment I give unto you, that you should fill all these offices and aapprove of those names which I have mentioned, or else disapprove of them at my general conference;
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