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Presidential Candidate: Meeting with Sheriff Joe Arpaio Yielded “Devastating” Information
The Post and Email ^ | December 9, 2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/10/2011 9:50:48 PM PST by Seizethecarp

On December 5, 2011, Presidential Candidate John Dummett of California recently traveled 789 miles to Maricopa County, AZ and back to meet with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been conducting an investigation into questions surrounding the presidential eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

"Arpaio was intrigued by Van Irion’s and my approach of going after the DNC and not attacking Barack Obama or asking any court to decide Obama’s eligibility. He told us things that I still have to hold in confidentiality. I can say, because it has already been released to the press and I can verify it, that he will produce a report in February, and it will be devastating. I can’t say what it is, but I know what it is.”

When we asked Dummett if the “devastating” part of Arpaio’s future report was communicated in written or verbal form, he was not at liberty to answer.

"Instead of being there for only 20 minutes, we were there speaking with him for an hour and a half. I was then asked to be an expert witness on the birth certificate issue, and I agreed to do that.”

The Post & Email asked, “Is that because you have a background in document analysis or something similar?” and Mr. Dummett replied, “I’m a computer programmer staff analyst for the California Department of Fish & Game. I’m an expert at the staff level at building databases and dealing with computer-generated documents. I figured out that the birth certificate Obama presented was a phony right after I saw it, because I understand how Adobe works because I have to use that and the applications which I built for the state of California.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; az; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe; usurper
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To: DiogenesLamp
No, that his legitimacy had not been demonstrated.

To-may-to, to-mah-to.

..., but as we found out in Nuremburg, Officers are responsible for their own conduct and cannot use the excuse "we were only following orders."

And they are also responsible for what happens to them if a court martial finds that the orders they refused to obey were, in fact, legal and the officers who gave them were, in fact, authorized to do so. Lakin decided the orders were invalid. Lakin was wrong. Lakin paid the penalty for his mistake.

He admitted he was guilty of it the same way Gallileo admitted the universe was geocentric. Under duress. When he realized that he was facing something like a Volksgerichtshof, he decided to cut his losses.

In other words, he wimped out?

It is not in the interest of good order and discipline to allow the troops to wonder if your forces have been co-opted by an Enemy Agent in a high position of command.

The Army brass can't be responsible for what the rank and file decide to believe. They can ensure that lawful orders are followed and the chain of command is respected.

Lakin's mistake was in assuming that his superiors had honor, rather than being the career whores that they now so obviously are.

Lakin only wishes he had the honor that someone like Gordon Roberts had.

81 posted on 12/11/2011 2:45:21 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Seizethecarp
I don't think that partisan games are what Joe Arpaio is about.

It's about getting at the truth and taking down the man who had to audacity to sue his state.

82 posted on 12/11/2011 2:54:42 PM PST by jersey117 (.)
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To: SoJoCo
>>The Army brass can't be responsible for what the rank and file decide to believe. They can ensure that lawful orders are followed and the chain of command is respected.<<

The rank and file are enlisted men, *not officers*

The officer oath:

I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God

The enlisted man's oath:-

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

The usurpation of the chain of command by a non US citizen would be an action by a domestic enemy. If Lakin suspected this, and exhausting all other effective means he was IMHO acting within his officer Oath to challenge his orders.

83 posted on 12/11/2011 3:22:57 PM PST by Exmil_UK
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To: vanilla swirl; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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> Ping

. . . . . Back to the thread.

Check out # 25 , 27 , 30 ,

Then, on second page, see:

# 52 , 61 , 70 , 73 , 76 .

Beware of persuasive SP; he's good at misconstruing facts.

84 posted on 12/11/2011 3:45:42 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

It’s called Photoshop. And anyone that really works with it does not refer to it as Adobe. Adobe is the company name. They make a bunch of software—most notably photoshop and flash.

They don’t make databases. There is very little in common with databases and photoshop.

If they are using this guy as an expert, the credibility is suspect.


85 posted on 12/11/2011 3:54:03 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: donmeaker
So why didn’t someone PRINT OUT the electronically generated birth certificate (the long form that we were assured doesn’t exist) and post that online, so we would lose the Photoshop layers that are so damning?

SOMEONE wanted to warn us, in a plausibly deniable way...

86 posted on 12/11/2011 4:10:48 PM PST by null and void (Day 1055 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes arent made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Seizethecarp

Soros does not want Hillary.


87 posted on 12/11/2011 4:13:58 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Vermont Lt
I believe the poster is talking having experience with databases, websites and document generation with Adobe Acrobat.

Adobe® Acrobat® X Standard software lets you reliably create, edit, and share basic PDF files. Convert paper documents to searchable PDF files or fillable forms. Merge multiple file types into a single PDF file.

Obama’s posted BC was a PDF file with different layers of graphics from multiple sources. Could be done with Photoshop but the poster probably meant that he is expert in Adobe document standards not Photoshop.

88 posted on 12/11/2011 4:16:11 PM PST by Hang'emAll (")
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To: Seizethecarp

Sometimes the most obvious clue is in front of us, and we overlook it because of disinformation.

SAD disappeared from sight in Hawaii around April 1961. She reappeared in Washington State during August 1991 accompanied by baby Barry, a witness claims.

We know from University of Washington transcripts she took correspondence courses for two years.

Why, if she was supposedly living in Seattle, WA, would she take correspondence courses? She wouldn’t.

A red herring was thrown out early to throw everyone off the track. It is easy to pay people to lie.

BHO2 wasn’t born in Hawaii nor did he live there until he and his mother popped up there in 1963.

This is why SAD’s passport records prior to 1965 are missing.

This is why BHO2’s incomplete original Hawaiian birth certificate, filled out by his grandmother Maddy Dunham, is labeled “filed” rather than “accepted and filed”.

This is why BHO2 sent a million dollars to Odinga, not to run for political office, but to intimidate and terrorize Christian missionaries in Kenya who knew the truth about Obama.

Note: when the White House presented Obama’s “birth certificate” they included the exact time of BHO2’s birth as exists on his BC from Kenya.

This was done to be cheeky or it was done because it is true.


89 posted on 12/11/2011 4:16:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Lancey Howard; Irish Eyes; Ditter; SoJoCo
Who is presidential candidate Dummet?

Apparently, he is the person who has that most precious and elusive thing a loyal American can possibly have: "Standing".

90 posted on 12/11/2011 4:26:25 PM PST by null and void (Day 1055 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes arent made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
Apparently, he is the person who has that most precious and elusive thing a loyal American can possibly have: "Standing".

Don't put money on that. If the courts can rule that Alan Keyes didn't have standing, and he was actually on the ballot in a couple of states in 2008, then how can Dummett have standing?

91 posted on 12/11/2011 5:09:40 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Exmil_UK
If Lakin suspected this, and exhausting all other effective means he was IMHO acting within his officer Oath to challenge his orders.

The Army apparently did not share your opinion.

92 posted on 12/11/2011 5:12:31 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Seizethecarp
Canadian birth is my guess. His Aunt lived 5 minutes from the border in Washington. Maybe the hospital at White Rock Canada has a patient list with A. Dunham on it.

I think you are right. They are taking time, and this means they have evidence and they are now verifying all the associated details, and following new leads. Nails for the coffin. They don't want to get caught with a fraudulent document, so they need to verify all people involved do indeed exist. Forensic analysis also takes time. Ink and paper tests. Signatures. Building a case. This is what prosecutors and detectives do.

I think Arpio said it will be shocking and controversial. This guy says devastating. This is looking like good news for America and the cause for freedom. It is amazing that this is happening without any MSM attention focused on it.

93 posted on 12/11/2011 6:02:31 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: combat_boots; Seizethecarp; LucyT

Hillary’s campaign re-emerging, as reports have it, is not to challenge Obama. It is to fill the void when Obama is finally outed. Hillary has been adamant about NOT running. I mean she has at times pretty much closed the door as they say. But with the recent revelations that have been getting more attention since the NH battle, it seems clear that they are now realizing that he could go down and they need a replacement.


94 posted on 12/11/2011 6:37:00 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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To: SoJoCo

Bush released all his military records. Being open and honest was routine.


95 posted on 12/11/2011 6:42:53 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
The MSM has covered the Arpaio Posse with Alinski-style mocking but not to the extent Arpaio is used to having.

The latest MSM tactic is to hype a ginned-up claim that Arpaio “botched” over 400 reported sex-crime cases back in 2007. They are really digging to find something and the claims against Arpaio came up empty or they wouldn't be trying to revive them.

AP:”Critics: ‘Tough’ sheriff botched sex-crime cases”

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/12/04/critics_tough_sheriff_botched_sex_crime_cases/?page=1

96 posted on 12/11/2011 7:02:14 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
They are grasping at straws.

The sheriff tends to shoot straight.

My money is on Joe kicking Barak square in the jewels.

97 posted on 12/11/2011 7:31:26 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Seizethecarp

Seizethecarp: “I have been wondering what type of evidence would require a legitimate delay until February.”

I notice that the Arizona primary is scheduled for Feb. 28 so perhaps the sheriff is merely treating this as his deadline to have results. I would guess he’s attempting to amass as much information and justification possible to be sure the accusations stick. And there are always chances that more investigation will provide even greater findings than those that are “devastating”? Even though time is an enemy, poor investigating techniques and compromised evidence is even more so...


98 posted on 12/11/2011 7:56:33 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: GregNH

Imagine having Plugs as your candidate. Talk about a disaster....


99 posted on 12/11/2011 8:24:49 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Seizethecarp; stormhill; LucyT; WhizCodger

Witnesses that should be deposed.

Brian Schatz - Current Lt. Gov. of Hawaii. HDP leader in 2008. Question to Mr. Schatz - “Why was document that did not have all the legal requirements of certifying a candidate eligible submitted to CEO in 2008? Why was language included in 2004 that met state law requirements ommitted in 2008? Is it because you did not want to be charged with aiding in fraud?”

Janice Okubo - Too many questions to list in one posting.

Joe Miller - formlerly with Factcheck. Question to Mr. Miller - “Was your job at CBO provided in exchange for supplying the ‘Born in the USA’ Factcheck posting?”

Jess Henig - formerly with Factcheck. Question to Ms. Henig - “When (specific date) did you actually take picture of the short form COLB? Whose camera was used? Why was the date and time not checked before taking the pictures? Did someone provide you with the digital photo files and ask you to write a story around them?”

William H Gilardy, Jr. - Attorney for Stanley Ann Dunham in her divorce from Obama Sr and HDP attorney. Question - “What is the truth. You had direct access to records that are in question as part of the divorce settlement.” Follow-up: “Did you advise Brian Schatz to not sign a document attesting to the Constitutionally eligiblity of Obama?”


100 posted on 12/11/2011 8:32:14 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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