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WAR: If They Succeed in Forcing a Romney Nomination On Us, The GOP Establishment Must Be Destroyed
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 30, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/30/2012 5:52:43 AM PST by Reaganite Republican


Hey RNC, get this through your big fat skulls:
I will never, ever vote for Mitt Romney... never

Baloo

A month ago -when the Republican primary contest began to get ugly- it already seemed intra-party chasms that developed over this cycle would be taking some time to heal. We all still assumed that 'anybody but Obama' would get us together in the end, though...yet no longer:  there's simply no dealing with the self-serving syndicate that's re-written history and gang-raped Newt Gingrich just to stick us with some fake conservative scumbag. The TEA Party movement is on the verge of extinction if we fail to go on the offensive- and I mean now.

With Romney riding a Florida surge brought about by a widespread RNC/MSM/Drudge/Coulter conspiracy against Newtthe damage is done... Mr Magic Underpants is suddenly pulling-away: apparently the ruinous (to the GOP) assault on Gingrich has succeeded in swaying just enough pudding-heads down there to hand him victory tomorrow, and thus sending fake conservative Romney along towards his long-planned coronation.

But the unprincipled behavior, mediocre political talent, and almost total lack of message (other than the ceaseless drone of negative attack ads) has me convinced that Mittens isn't going to beat Obama in November- especially when you consider a boiling-mad TEA Party and the independent campaigns (Paul, Trump) a Romney nomination all but assures. 

The same ones trashing Gingrich are also shielding the voters from Willard's many dubious dealings, but who would expect the MSM/Left to be quite so helpful come the fall.  And don't talk about money, either... Obama's got more... much more! Since Romney has no leg to stand on but well-financed politics of destruction (and he's not all that different from the incumbent) as GOP nominee he would enjoy no notable advantages in November.

If we could take anything positive from such a catastrophe, perhaps it would be the future ability to bring conservatives to power in this country to deal with whatever ashes remain in 2016. 

The RNC has always tried to stick us with party suck-ups... and it's always cost us.  But after McLame got whupped in 2008, many on the Right thought there may be a sliver lining this time, in that the TEA Party and electorate in general would now line-up behind a true Reaganite conservative to set things right... "To get a Reagan, it takes a Carter' and such.

Yet that was not to be: if things continue the way they're going, we're about to be stuck with yet another squish-  one that also happens to also be a utterly ruthless piece of crap: The Wall Street Journal called the coordinated attacks on Gingrich 'unprecedented', while the 'Stalin-esque' re-writing of history employed in neutralizing his Reaganite credentials has the Gipper spinning in his grave @ 10,000rpm.

The race is not over after Florida, Newt still leads nationally, and he pledges to fight on to the (brokered?) convention.  The former House Speaker feels the Right is slowly consolidating and has a plan to trounce Romney on Super Tuesday, including a big win in his home state of Georgia that would instantly put Newt out front in the delegate count (last time I checked he was polling 65%).

But if they do manage to make Romney the Republican nominee against the majority of the party's wishes -which most punters still see to be the most likely outcome- we must face some grim realities:

Romney/RNC/MSM have systematically destroyed each and every conservative candidate we've told them we'd prefer... same as they did to Sarah Palin. Since Romney has spent millions of dollars campaigning for five years and still can't get much more than a third of the vote, he apparently sees no other route to the White House other eliminating actual conservatives from the race. The shameful character assassination employed in doing this had no limits: Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich... did these patriots deserve any of this?  How did we allow it?

A vote for Romney is a vote for ObamaCare-ad-infinitum. Republicans are now being forced into pulling the lever for this- when most of us consider repeal of ObamaCare as a litmus test for presidential candidates!  How did the party we saved in 2010 respond? GOP to TEA Party: 'You'll get nothing... and like it." They think you have nowhere else to go- but they are wrong.

This is the type of manipulation/denial of basic democratic rights that stokes the flames of revolution: I advocate a peaceful revolution to destroy the Republican Party establishment, if not the party in it's entirety (if it cannot be conquered). This can be brought about by denying Romney votes (and the White House) while boycotting all the politicians and pundits that enabled it. 

CUT THEM OFF, people.

As floated by Bill Jacobson at Legal Insurrection, the strategy could take the form of a  new, aggressive TEA Party movement to focus on taking back the Senate while building a larger majority in The House to either keep a lid on Romney OR constrain, control, and investigate Obama for the next four years. Voters prefer split government anyway... Obama -if victorious- would not have any coattails this time, much of that due to the fact that over half the country doesn't really trust him.

I would add that I -for the first time ever- am open to a third party candidate (Palin?) if they're not willing to compete with Newt on the issues.

Look, a Romney nomination all but ensures Ron Paul -and maybe Trump- will be there anyway. Don't let anybody tell you you have to vote for Romney... YOU DO NOT: the problem is Mittens as nominee (and the rigged process that is getting him there), not our lack of willingness to lay back and learn to enjoy it!

Since even the monumential failure of Obama brought us just another morally warped, big-government DIABLO -when a clear majority of Republicans have been begging for a conservative- perhaps it will take eight years then... so be it.  Mitt Romney is precious little improvement imho, and the TEA Party would be best served by opposing Mittens as we do Obama... he'll hurt the right more than help it, and the damage has already begun.

Any Reaganite can tell you appeasement of a ruthless and determined enemy will never bring you peace nor motivate them to respect your ideals: After this one, I AM THROUGH appeasing a DC establishment that wouldn't spit on the TEA Party if it's hair was on fire. We told them multiple times we'd like to elect someone else... and they've told us to lump it.

The GOP old-guard is a cabal not unlike the Chicago Machine: (working primarily to protect their own self-interest)  They will be out for revenge upon all who opposed them... we might as well cut them off at the knees while we still can.

Crazy talk from a disheartened Newt supporter? Hardly- consider that up-and-coming conservative hero Allen West is already be re-districted out of a seat by the Florida GOP. The man leading this blatant act of retribution? Romney's Florida campaign spokesman!

Look what they did to Palin....  look what they did to Cain.

Simply put: HIT THEM HARD pre-emptively with the only weapons we have (yet all we need): If Romney wins the nomination, I plan to: quit the Republican Party... ignore Romney... focus on congressional races... and boycott RNC donations, as well as the election of Romney allies, and purchases, links, or any other form of support for Drudge, Ann Coulter, Jennifer Rubin, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, David Limbaugh, et. al (comprehensive black list pending). We need to primary people like Juan McTaco, too. The New Media Right will promptly step-up to fill any journalistic gap left by the forced retirement of these discredited RNC hacks.

Note: if Romney is nominated, I will also immediately change the name of this blog (my political shield-and-sword from the day Obama was elected) to 'Reaganite Independent'... count on it.

You're never going to be president, Mitt... screw you

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To: Le Chien Rouge
-- Will I be blamed for Obama being re-elected? --

Of course you will. Just consider the source(s) and then choose you future course of action. I discount the opinions and analyses of "blame the voter" posters. They are of course free to have their opinions.

My opinion is that when a party loses a race, it's the party's fault.

21 posted on 01/30/2012 6:22:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Reaganite Republican
You're right. I also have never gone third party in the presidential race but I will this year if Mittens gets the nomination. It's so clear to me - conservatives are to the Republican party what the Blacks are to the Democrats. They're stringing us along and counting on our votes. I'm done being strung along.

The bottom line is Mittens is unelectable.

22 posted on 01/30/2012 6:23:25 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I’m NOT voting for Romney(doesn’t MEAN I’m not Voting). Will I be blamed for Obama being re-elected?

I refuse to accept any blame. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the GOP Establishment.

23 posted on 01/30/2012 6:26:14 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Reaganite Republican
Sorry for the long entry, but someone told me they were from Iowa and was I was saying was not true. When I wrote this last time the thread was pulled. I don't think I did anything wrong by telling the truth, maybe it was a fluk.

The GOP and their hit people in the media have decided romney is THEIR choice and if anyone goes against them, they will be destroyed. They cheated Rick Santorum out of his momentum and only gave him Iowa after a caucus worker went to the media and told them romney only had 2 votes in that county not 22. Now they expect us to believe 8 counties “lost” all their ballots and they still don't know who won them. I'm sure they will turn up when romney needs them to win. They pushed mccain on us last time and the only reason many people voted for him was because of Sarah. So this is our future with the RNC, they pick our president and they throw us a bone by giving us a conservative VP. We keep moving left with the nominees as we watch leftist countries like Greece self-destruct? Romney has shown he will do anything to anyone who gets in his way-Alinsky tactics. How are these people different then Obama?

Election officials were mystified Thursday as to how Iowa caucus results from two North Iowa counties were not accounted for in the certified results. State Republican party officials announced the certified results of the Jan. 3 caucuses showed former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with a 34-vote edge over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Original results showed Romney as the winner by eight votes. State party officials said they did not have totals from eight precincts, including Ward 2, precinct 3 in northwest Mason City and Geneva/Reeve in Franklin County. John Rowe, Cerro Gordo County Republican chairman, said he did not know how the Mason City precinct totals were missing and didn’t want to point any fingers. “What is missing is Form E which is a signed copy of the vote totals that were phoned in on caucus night,” he said. “I sent in a foot-tall box full of forms from Cerro Gordo County for certification. There were two Form A’s, Form B, Form C, Form D and Form E from each precinct and there was other required paperwork as well. “Out of all the forms we were required to send in, Form E is the only one that wasn’t in triplicate,” said Rowe. “It’s unfortunate. It was probably a human error on one end or the other. I don’t like it being described as a `missing precinct.’ This was a very transparent process.” Rowe said there are more than 1,700 precincts in the state and only eight were unaccounted for in the final tabulation. “If my son took a physics test and got 99 percent, we’d be slapping him on the back,” he said. Karen Zander, Republican chairwoman in Franklin County, said she doesn’t know how one of her precincts was unaccounted for. She said there were 19 voters in the precinct. Bill Schickel of Mason City, vice chairman of the state Republican party, agreed. “The precinct totals would not have changed the outcome of the election,” he said. “This is a volunteer, grassroots-driven process. I feel badly that some precinct results were not certified. “There is no perfect election. But having eight precincts uncertified out of more than 1,700 is a better certification rate than ever before,” he said. “We’re not perfect. But this wasn’t anything like other states have had, like the ‘dangling chads’ in Florida.” – John Skipper, Mason City Globe-Gazette Election officials were mystified Thursday as to how Iowa caucus results from two North Iowa counties were not accounted for in the certified results. State Republican party officials announced the certified results of the Jan. 3 caucuses showed former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with a 34-vote edge over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Original results showed Romney as the winner by eight votes. State party officials said they did not have totals from eight precincts, including Ward 2, precinct 3 in northwest Mason City and Geneva/Reeve in Franklin County. John Rowe, Cerro Gordo County Republican chairman, said he did not know how the Mason City precinct totals were missing and didn’t want to point any fingers. “What is missing is Form E which is a signed copy of the vote totals that were phoned in on caucus night,” he said. “I sent in a foot-tall box full of forms from Cerro Gordo County for certification. There were two Form A’s, Form B, Form C, Form D and Form E from each precinct and there was other required paperwork as well. “Out of all the forms we were required to send in, Form E is the only one that wasn’t in triplicate,” said Rowe. “It’s unfortunate. It was probably a human error on one end or the other. I don’t like it being described as a `missing precinct.’ This was a very transparent process.” Rowe said there are more than 1,700 precincts in the state and only eight were unaccounted for in the final tabulation. “If my son took a physics test and got 99 percent, we’d be slapping him on the back,” he said. Karen Zander, Republican chairwoman in Franklin County, said she doesn’t know how one of her precincts was unaccounted for. She said there were 19 voters in the precinct. Bill Schickel of Mason City, vice chairman of the state Republican party, agreed. “The precinct totals would not have changed the outcome of the election,” he said. “This is a volunteer, grassroots-driven process. I feel badly that some precinct results were not certified. “There is no perfect election. But having eight precincts uncertified out of more than 1,700 is a better certification rate than ever before,” he said. “We’re not perfect. But this wasn’t anything like other states have had, like the ‘dangling chads’ in Florida.” – John Skipper, Mason City Globe-Gazette UPDATED: Mitt Romney got 20 fewer votes in Moulton precinct, Appanoose County GOP chairman says JASON CLAYWORTH 10:57 AM, Jan 6, 2012 Categories: Caucus Insider Covering Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich More posts by Jason Clayworth Print/Email NOTE: An earlier version of this blog incorrectly reported which numbers Appanoose County GOP chairman Lyle Brinegar believes are accurate. The numbers he referenced as accurate earlier today are those sworn in the affidavit by Moulton resident Edward True. Mitt Romney received 20 fewer votes than are reported from a Moulton precinct in numbers posted by the Republican Party of Iowa, the Appanoose County GOP chairman said today. The final vote between Iowa caucuses winner Mitt Romney was eight ahead of Rick Santorum. “We stand by the figures that were presented by the Moulton precinct caucus,” said Lyle Brinegar, chairman of the Appanoose County GOP. Matt Strawn, chairman of the Republican Party of Iowa, continued to express confidence Friday that the order of finish will not change. He said the party would make no further comment until its two-week vote certification process is complete. Moulton resident Edward True has signed an affidavit saying that he helped count the vote at the Garrett Memorial Library in Moulton and that the precinct had two votes for Romney, not 22, as reported online by the state GOP. Brinegar says True is correct. “I’m not disputing what Ed True said,” Brinegar said. Appanoose County has 12 caucus precincts. All but two had no votes or single-digit votes for Romney, while one had 20 votes and the Moulton site reported 22. Drake University political science professor Dennis Goldford said the results – even if the certification reveals a different answer – will change little other than bragging rights. Santorum, who for months remained in the single digits in polls, wildly beat expectations, and that is the real story, Goldford said. The caucuses don’t result in an actual election, so there’s no additional harm done in terms of having to eject a candidate from a position, Goldford noted. However, there is potential for long-term consequences regarding the credibility of the Iowa caucuses, Goldford warned. “It reinforces the view from other states that the Iowa caucuses are this unreliable, amateurish event,” Goldford said. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN Caucus results may threaten first-in-nation status Rick Santorum’s spokesman on Iowa caucus results: Romney is not inevitable Primary day at hand, SC voters have their say Updated: Rick Perry suspends presidential campaign, endorses Newt Gingrich Iowa GOP legislative leaders defend party’s work in hosting Iowa caucuses SPONSORED LINKS 7 Grocery Store Items Americans are Blowing Money On (The Fiscal Times) Economist Who Predicted the 2008 Crash Gives Chilling 2012 Forecast. See the Evidence. (Newsmax.com) 5 Financial Perks of Congress You Won't Believe Are Legal (StreetAuthority) Warren Buffett Defends His Secretary From 'Ridiculous' Attacks (CNBC) Celebrities Who Are Proud To Be Republican (Zimbio) [?]

24 posted on 01/30/2012 6:26:37 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: aruanan
You will be cutting off the nation's nose to spite the GOP face.

By cutting off that nose, I'll be amputating a diseased limb that if left alone could kill this nation. The GOP needs major reform or we need a third party. Either way it's not happening if we conservatives act like good soldiers and vote Romney. Something has to change.

25 posted on 01/30/2012 6:30:15 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Reaganite Republican

McCain wasn’t enough?


26 posted on 01/30/2012 6:30:56 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Reaganite Republican
WAR: If They Succeed in Forcing a Romney Nomination On Us, The GOP Establishment Must Be Destroyed

The same holds true even if Romney is not nominated!!!

27 posted on 01/30/2012 6:35:23 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: CASchack

They gave us one choice in 08’, McCain gave us Obama. They are allowing us one choice again, romney, and the results, whether he wins or loses, will still be Obama. So unless, something miraculous happens, we have Obama for another four and if Romney is elected we have Obama for potentially another eight. So I say let’s take our chances with Obama for only four.


28 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:57 AM PST by Toespi
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To: CASchack
No Romney—Period.

Same here. No Romney. No way. No how.

To the GOP etablishment: Force Romney as the nominee, and his loss is secured. A vast legion of REAL conservatives will not hold their nose and pull the lever for him. Not this time.
29 posted on 01/30/2012 6:38:23 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
You know what I’m trying to say with it, I’m sure

Oh, absolutely! It's a great flag, a great message, and I proudly fly that flag in front of my house.

I realize I'm probably being overly picky, but since I actually live in Culepeper County, Virginia, that particular spelling error jumps right out at me whenever I see it.

PS - There really are flag makers out there who fail to spell Culpeper correctly on their versions of this flag (mostly imports); but the folks at Carrot-Top Industries sell very high quality, 'Made in U.S.A.', copies of the "Culpeper Minutemen" flag.

30 posted on 01/30/2012 6:48:42 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: old and tired

Agreed.

Gangrenous body parts NEED to be cut off, even noses...


31 posted on 01/30/2012 6:50:22 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: ZX12R

No Romney, no compromise. I won’t vote for him.

You can blame me if Oblahblah gets another four years, and I’ll simply point out that fools propped up Romney knowing that a MAJORITY of the conservative voters would not vote for him. They know this now, and they still are desperately trying to put Romney in there. If they do force him in as the nom, I will vote. I will simply leave the top of the ticket blank and vote the ticket down. But I will not pull the lever for that lying POS.


32 posted on 01/30/2012 6:56:23 AM PST by RobinWWJD
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To: SLB

A good read.


33 posted on 01/30/2012 6:58:02 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Reaganite Republican

I’m a Santorum supporter, but no one is forcing Romney on us. It’s a nominating process, we get a chance to vote. For every coulter pushing for Mitt, there is a Levin or Rush pushing for Newt. I understand being 100% for your guy during the primary process but if, if Mitt is the nominee and you say there’s no difference between Romney and Obama you’re either not paying attention or are stubborn and butthurt.


34 posted on 01/30/2012 6:58:49 AM PST by Round 9
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To: RobinWWJD
You can blame me if Oblahblah gets another four years, and I’ll simply point out that fools propped up Romney knowing that a MAJORITY of the conservative voters would not vote for him. They know this now, and they still are desperately trying to put Romney in there. If they do force him in as the nom, I will vote. I will simply leave the top of the ticket blank and vote the ticket down. But I will not pull the lever for that lying POS.

Same here.

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35 posted on 01/30/2012 6:59:07 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Linda Frances
Paragraphs are your friend.

:)

36 posted on 01/30/2012 7:00:20 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Who do you mean by “they”? Primary voters? If “they” are successful in getting Romney as the nominee?

What method would you prefer to be utilized to pick the GOP nominee if not by votes in primaries?


37 posted on 01/30/2012 7:05:15 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I AGREE: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST BE KILLED; if they force Romney on us.


38 posted on 01/30/2012 7:06:09 AM PST by JSDude1 (NEWT 2012!)
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To: WayneS

>> I actually live in Culepeper County <<

Spell-check is your friend.


39 posted on 01/30/2012 7:16:45 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Theodore R.; Reaganite Republican
Like Scotland Yard, the Republican establishment always gets its man. Why? because all our little primary voters seem to know is whose "turn it is."

More to the point, who IS the "Republican Establishment". It's not just a handful of people in the RNC -- it's tens of thousands of party officials and politicians in every little district across the country. They are the ones who benefit from the government being a mess (because they are the ones called upon by business owners and private citizens to fix problems that the broken government creates). It's a big organization to take over.

40 posted on 01/30/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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