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Rossi's NASA Test Fails to Launch (E-Cat)
New Energy Times ^ | 2/10/2012 | Steven B. Krivit

Posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:33 PM PST by Johnny B.

Andrea Rossi, an Italian man who claims to have invented a practical low-energy nuclear reaction device, will not have his device tested and evaluated by NASA. In the past year, Rossi has had mixed success in gaining support at two NASA laboratories: Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., and Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

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KEYWORDS: coldfusion; ecat; lenr; rossi
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Detailed story of Rossi's dealings with NASA last year.
1 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:43 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

LENR/Cold Fusion ping. Stephen Krivit has posted a detailed report on Rossi’s dealings with NASA. Enjoy.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 4:52:45 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
I read today that Rossi has a history.

In the 1990s, he served prison time after claiming that a company he started, called PetrolDragon, could convert toxic waste to oil, but instead the 70,000 tons of waste accumulated by the company was left to rot on-site. Ten years later, Rossi was acquitted by the Italian government. And he's back to making miracles.

E-Cat 'Cold Fusion' Machine: Claims of Fraud Heating Up
3 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Johnny B.

Someday “blarney” and “rossi” will be synonyms.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 4:56:27 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Now I know how the average lefty would feel if Fred Phelps were elected President.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Can’t really blame the guy. After all we live in a world where companies buy carbon credits and pass the cost on to the consumer.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I read today that Rossi has a history.
HERE is the list of newspaper stories I was able to find related to Rossi's numerous convictions, not just for the "toxic waste" problem (which has cost almost $50 million to clean up), but for several, unrelated fraud crimes.

As far as I was able to tell, he was acquitted of the toxic waste charges, but not the financial fraud charges, which included a 2000 conviction for bankruptcy fraud, with an 8-year prison sentence.

6 posted on 02/10/2012 5:06:56 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

I have a feeling that he’ll be collecting at least one more conviction before he’s done.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 5:11:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Johnny B.
Interesting section about the small quantity of steam:
Rossi said he was feeding in water and producing only steam. Only there wasn't much steam. So where did the water go? The obvious explanation was right in front of us the whole time: feed water into the copper chamber, run it through the black hose, down the table and into a hole in the wall.

Once the water enters the copper chamber, nobody sees it again; it disappears down the hole. If someone asks to see what's coming out of the hose, Rossi first dumps the water out of the last few feet, then pulls the hose out of the wall for a few seconds, then rushes to put it back in. Alternatively, Rossi provides a plastic blue bucket to catch the "steam."

The hard part for most people was to believe that anyone would be so audacious or so foolhardy as to attempt to pull off a stunt like this. But anybody who knows Rossi's history with his other two energy "innovations" knows that this behavior is entirely in his character.

July 30 represented a turning point. Many people concluded that Rossi was either a fraud or incompetent, or both. Other people continued to have confidence in Rossi, his device and his claim.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 5:16:03 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: cripplecreek

Crip, Rossi got a Green Card from President Jimmy Carter for that process.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 5:21:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Crip, Rossi got a Green Card from President Jimmy Carter for that process.
I've read that statement several times, but I've never seen any evidence for it. Do you actually know this? Or are you just repeating something you read on a Rossi fan site?

According to the Italian government, there was no evidence that any waste was ever converted into fuel. Part of the evidence brought against Rossi was that his "customer" was still "buying" converted fuel long after Petrol Dragon was shut down. The conclusion was that it was nothing more than a money-laundering operation.

10 posted on 02/10/2012 5:27:20 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
Other people continued to have confidence in Rossi, his device and his claim.

Those folks should just give him their life savings and wait for the profits to come rolling in.
11 posted on 02/10/2012 5:27:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Those folks should just give him their life savings and wait for the profits to come rolling in.
I'm sure some of them already have.
12 posted on 02/10/2012 5:29:17 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
J.B., other than some date changes, this is the same material you've been posting for the last year and a half.

Did you ever find any source for the claim this "water heater" was supposed to produce steam?

Still waiting on that one.

In the meantime Obama's Cylindra loan has blown up and there are about $6 billion in other "energy loans" ready to go south.

Rossi's old buddies at Leonardo with their DOE consulting contract ($90 mil) seem to be among the few to not go belly up in this stuff, so what's the deal?

I figured that by now you'd figured out just which bad energy loan Rossi and his backers were involved in ~

You wouldn't be trying to misdirect us would you?

13 posted on 02/10/2012 5:33:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.

It's amazing that it's on the internet since that was a good 20 years before an accessible internet.

14 posted on 02/10/2012 5:36:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.

It's amazing that it's on the internet since that was a good 20 years before an accessible internet.

15 posted on 02/10/2012 5:36:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Did you ever find any source for the claim this "water heater" was supposed to produce steam?
Rossi's gadget?!? It's only the claim that all the water has been turned into steam that makes this interesting. If that's not true, then all the energy being used can be explained by the electrical heater Rossi is supposedly using to "kick off" the process.

If a significant amount of water is staying water, then Rossi is lying about the whole thing. That's what makes the fact that he has always dumped the water/steam down the drain without any sort of measurement so suspicious.

You wouldn't be trying to misdirect us would you?
You're the master of paranoid, schizophrenic thinking around here, so you would think that regardless of what I said.

I noticed that you didn't answer the question about a source for the "information" you provided that Rossi received a visa from Jimmy Carter. That sounds like just the sort of lie Rossi would use.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 5:43:08 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: muawiyah
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.
Your comments veer so wildly that I refuse to waste my time trying to dig through them. If you have a reference, post it.
17 posted on 02/10/2012 5:45:40 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Its not real until it is....

Were still at the first part of that sentence.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 5:54:57 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Johnny B.
You realize, I hope, that the full story on Rossi includes him walking out of prison and immediately immigrating to the US.

Hmmm.

He had a visa!

19 posted on 02/10/2012 6:04:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

Hey! Rossi! ShIt, or get off the pot!


20 posted on 02/10/2012 6:17:28 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: muawiyah
Crip, Rossi got a Green Card from President Jimmy Carter for that process.

Does recognition from Jimmy Carter really count for anything?

21 posted on 02/10/2012 6:19:41 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Probably.

He was President.

The logical problem here is that Rossi immigrated right after he'd supposedly been imprisoned ~ so how'd he get a visa?

That's easy enough to address if, in fact, he already had a visa.

Carter becomes quite relevant in any rational explanation of how Rossi got an immigration visa.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 6:23:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
He was President.

The logical problem here is that Rossi immigrated right after he'd supposedly been imprisoned ~ so how'd he get a visa?

First, we're still waiting for any legitimate reference to the claim that Jimmy Carter awarded Rossi a visa. The only reference I've been able to find is from Rossi's own mini-autobiography. Given the number of lies in which Rossi has already been caught, I'm certainly not going to accept his word about this.

He obviously did receive a visa at some point (unless he's an illegal alien). But if he received it during the Carter Administration, then he received his visa at least a decade before his various convictions in Italy.

The only incident I've found to relate Rossi's convictions to his work in the United States is the fact that he was working on his ThermoElectric converter (which showed every sign of being a fraud), when he took a short trip back home to Italy (he had a ticket to return to the U.S. in a few weeks). It was at that point that he was arrested (as a fugitive) and convicted to 8 years in prison for bankruptcy fraud.

I see no evidence to suggest that he received his visa personally from Jimmy Carter (as Rossi claims in his self-serving autobiography), nor do I see any evidence to suggest that he received it after he was in legal trouble in Italy.

If you have any actual evidence to the contrary, please post it.

23 posted on 02/10/2012 6:55:04 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
The whole of Rossi’s efforts seems to be the production of just enough hype to snag a large investor or two.

Obtaining advance orders is a respectable business practice IF there is going to be a product to deliver at some reasonable future point.
That is not the case here. August was a possible roll out date. That is not going to happen.
Robotic factories? 500,000 orders? Where is the money going to come from? Not from sales of the shipping container water heaters, not from prepayment or Rossi’s pocket.

I think Rossi discovered after putting some of his own money in that producing a salable e-cat was not going to be done on the kitchen table but thought if the project could be kept alive long enough to attract some money it just might be made to work.

Now it's clear that no amount of money is going to produce quick results and huge profits.

24 posted on 02/10/2012 7:08:18 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; Johnny B.
Courtesy ping.

Rossi Says E-Cat is Absolutely Safe — “There Will Never Be” Gamma Rays Emitted

25 posted on 02/10/2012 7:09:36 PM PST by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Johnny B.

I think Krivit is to LENR/cold fusion what Walter Hooper is to C.S. Lewis (or was, I don’t know if he’s kicked the bucket yet; he was in his late 20s back in the mid-60s when he hatched his scheme shortly after Lewis’s death).


26 posted on 02/10/2012 7:11:38 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Johnny B.
There's an alternative ~ that he was doing business in the US and invested the required sum (I believe it was $250,000 at the time) and got a business visa.

Regarding his theoretical time in prison in Italy, you find articles about his convictions and also about where he was exonerated and the convictions overturned.

I haven't found an article about him really going in stir and coming out.

The smallscale sanitary incinerator/co-power generation device appears to have been a real device he invented to make quite a bit of money with.

Back to the issues however, what relevance is this rehashed stuff in your piece? We went over and over the same stuff last year several times!

27 posted on 02/10/2012 7:33:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Regarding his theoretical time in prison in Italy, you find articles about his convictions and also about where he was exonerated and the convictions overturned.’

Rossi apparently spent six months in jail accoding to:

a b “Riciclaggio rifiuti tossici Assolto Andrea Rossi”. Archiviostorico.corriere.it. http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/2004/novembre/27/Riciclaggio_rifiuti_tossici_Assolto_Andrea_co_7_041127020.shtml. Retrieved 2011-11-12

A reference found with a Wikipedia article.


28 posted on 02/10/2012 8:21:08 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Johnny B.

Don’t you find it a little bit odd that a NASA employee at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va. just filed a patent application regarding LENR and specifically H2 - Ni reactions? Although Rossi’s process wasn’t specifically mentioned in the patent application, a general description of what Rossi has calmed was.

Kind of makes you want to say Hmmmm... The assignee on this patent app. is of course the U.S. government.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=\%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220110255645%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/2\0110255645&RS=DN/20110255645


29 posted on 02/10/2012 10:40:13 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: count-your-change
Rossi apparently spent six months in jail accoding to:
This is referring to a 1995 conviction.

The article also says:

On appeal, the process still hangs for bankruptcy due to the collapse of Omar, the company that took over from Dragon Petrol refinery Lacchiarella in which the waste had to be distilled: for this process, in 2000 Andrea Smith was convicted by the summary Gup Milan to eight years in prison.
So, in 2004 he was "acquitted" of his 1995 conviction, but was 4 years in to his bankruptcy fraud sentence, which was a separate issue. I never found any evidence that this conviction was ever overturned.

Rossi has been very clever to try to claim that the only conviction was the Dragon Petrol pollution issue, which was later overturned. He ignores his other convictions, which included (at least) fraudulent gold sales (after Dragon Petrol he ran a large and successful jewelry business in Italy), and the 8-year conviction for transferring all the assets of Omar out of Italy as the company was going bankrupt.

30 posted on 02/11/2012 2:38:04 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: babygene
Don’t you find it a little bit odd that a NASA employee at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va. just filed a patent application regarding LENR and specifically H2 - Ni reactions?
Not at all. There are several researchers working with Ni-H reactions, and NASA submitted their patent long before they had anything to do with Rossi, and long before Rossi started his dog & phony shows.

If Rossi was trying to pull a con, using Cold Fusion as the basis, he would have had two "reasonable" choices: Palladium/Deuterium or Nickel/Hydrogen. Palladium is expensive, so Nickel is the obvious choice. (He could have made up something that wasn't already in the research literature, but then he would have had a much more difficult time convincing anyone that he "legit".)

One of the common fallacies I've seen with "True Believers" (I don't know if you fall into that category or not), is that if there is any legitimacy to LENR at all, then Rossi must be legitimate. That simply isn't true. LENR is a wonderful field for con men. Everyone has heard of it, but nobody (including the "experts") understand it. Given the history of Blacklight Power, it seems likely that Rossi isn't even the first scam artist to work in this field.

31 posted on 02/11/2012 2:45:48 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: muawiyah
There's an alternative ~ that he was doing business in the US and invested the required sum (I believe it was $250,000 at the time) and got a business visa.
But you've stated several times, including in this thread, that Jimmy Carter gave him his visa (which is what Rossi claims).

I guess you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

32 posted on 02/11/2012 3:01:23 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

The US government has several ways of importing foreigners besides just letting them slip in through Arizona and Texas. http://travel.state.gov/visa/ covers most of that. There’s also a refugee or asylum system. Rossi became a US citizen, so how did he get in? Please read the following section about prohibited classes and tell us how it was Rossi could commit the string of crimes you say he commited and still get into the US, or, if he was already here, stay here: http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligibilities/ineligibilities_1364.html


33 posted on 02/11/2012 3:54:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

The US government has several ways of importing foreigners besides just letting them slip in through Arizona and Texas. http://travel.state.gov/visa/ covers most of that. There’s also a refugee or asylum system. Rossi became a US citizen, so how did he get in? Please read the following section about prohibited classes and tell us how it was Rossi could commit the string of crimes you say he commited and still get into the US, or, if he was already here, stay here: http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligibilities/ineligibilities_1364.html


34 posted on 02/11/2012 3:54:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
No one would care about his past IF he could actually produce something that looked like more than a Hypo-matic Hot Air Producer.

But when “Rossi Says” is the Pixie Dust that makes everything work...then character becomes everything.

35 posted on 02/11/2012 4:02:32 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: muawiyah
Rossi became a US citizen
Source?
so how did he get in?
According to you, Jimmy Carter gave him a visa. I haven't seen any evidence of that other than Rossi's autobiography, which has other self-promoting lies.

If Rossi got a visa (or even became a U.S. citizen) during the Carter administration, then that was at least a decade before his convictions in Italy.

I do know that the oldest and most respected newspaper in Italy has a decade worth of stories about Rossi's numerous crimes and convictions.

All I know about Rossi's visa and supposed citizenship is Rossi's self-serving autobiography and your uninformed guesses.

36 posted on 02/11/2012 4:06:27 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: count-your-change
Interesting bit about one of Rossi's supporters, Hanno Essén:
I had asked Essén during the phone call whether he had been aware of the 1,600 times expansion rate of water to steam.

"I'd come across that before," Essén said, "I was aware of that."

"When you pulled the hose out of the wall and saw the steam, did you think about the expansion rate?" I asked Essén.

"No,” he said, “I must admit, I was thinking that I must check the water is not draining out. I had this vague feeling that the water inlet flow wasn't that fast, that the steam could be consistent with it, especially after some condensation in the hose. But we should have looked more into that, obviously, but there was not enough time."


37 posted on 02/11/2012 4:10:05 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
May be a Rossi joke too. Technically the President IS the ExecutiveBranch of the federal government. His agents, which include visa examination officers, act on his orders, so you could say that the President gave you a visa.

But what about the rest of this ~ how did he go on to get citizenship? How did he get past the security standards for the government contracts the government says they gave him?

All of this takes us back to an initial question ~ that is how much trust can you place in the Italian press to get the story straight?

Then there's Bob Gentile ~ he seems well connected ~ and Rossi has been involved with him for years, and that's not from the Italian press, it's from Parsons contracts, US Army contracts, .......

One more time, are you sure you've got the right guy?

38 posted on 02/11/2012 4:30:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

I wonder too if this fellow was aware of what the latent heat is in steam.
If seeing steam coming out of a hose going he knows not where didn’t set off alarms in his head I wonder what would.


39 posted on 02/11/2012 4:42:20 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: muawiyah
One more time, are you sure you've got the right guy?
One more time, yes.

The Andrea Rossi who ran Dragon Petrol is the same man who was convicted of numerous crimes in Italy (including financial fraud, money laundering and tax evasion). He is the same man who failed to produce a working ThermoElectric converter for the Army. He is the same man who is now looking for gullible investors to buy in to his steam kettle.

You're the only person who seems to have trouble understanding this.

40 posted on 02/11/2012 5:04:09 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
No, I'm havinng trouble figuring out why you haven't contacted ICE about this guy ~ obviously if he succeeded in immigrating he did so fraudulently.

REPORT HIM!

Get back with us with the news eh.

41 posted on 02/11/2012 5:09:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The smallscale sanitary incinerator/co-power generation device appears to have been a real device he invented to make quite a bit of money with.

It was a device. And it was real. But it is incapable of cold fusion. I suspect that if any kind of reaction is going on at all inside the device, it is purely a chemical reaction. Of course, powering it up with a generator makes me doubt if even a chemical reaction is occurring in the eCat.

No, I'm havinng trouble figuring out why you haven't contacted ICE about this guy ~ obviously if he succeeded in immigrating he did so fraudulently.

REPORT HIM!

For what? Isn't he currently in Italy?

42 posted on 02/11/2012 7:54:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Johnny B.

Thank you for the ping!

It looks like the carefully constructed house of cards is beginning to wobble on its unstable foundation. It’ll be fun to see how it crumbles!


43 posted on 02/11/2012 8:22:59 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: muawiyah
The smallscale sanitary incinerator/co-power generation device appears to have been a real device he invented to make quite a bit of money with.
According to the prosecution, he never converted any waste into fuel. It was, in fact, a money-laundering scheme. Any money he made was from his co-conspirators, who were also convicted btw.
44 posted on 02/11/2012 8:31:38 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: exDemMom
He goes back and forth. But that doesn't matter. If he obtained an immigration visa fraudulently even if he later achieved citizenship they can strip him of citizenship and deny him further visas. He can be deported.

So, DO IT. Tell us about it after you've done so.

45 posted on 02/11/2012 8:53:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

Even though the article explains that Rossi FAILED to provide any level of proof to NASA, the likes of Kevmo will continue to claim NASA is interested in Rossi and that gives Rossi credibility somehow.


46 posted on 02/11/2012 8:58:43 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Johnny B.
I just finished reading the whole article, and it was fascinating. I had wondered how a man who is unemployed and apparently without any source of income could both finance the R&D necessary to produce a working system (accepting his device as genuine, for sake of my argument), and afford to travel extensively. But this little passage answered a lot:

After three more weeks, on July 6, Rossi offered to sell international licenses for rights to manufacture "products based on Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat invention" for € 40.5 million ($53 million) per factory, through his affiliate, Defkalion.

All Rossi needs is one gullible investor who desparately wants to believe him, and Rossi is set. He can afford all the shipping containers and plumbing hardware he wants for his "demonstrations."

Looking at the picture of the "eCat" (posted in the section "Synopsis of Report #4), I am stricken by one thing: the "eCat" consists of brand-new pieces of plumbing attached to corroded old pipes. Why is that?

Anyway, once again, thanks for the ping.

47 posted on 02/11/2012 9:05:01 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Johnny B.
Rossi's nuclear manufacturing business address (hehe):

The old scam artist is using a 5th floor Miami Beach address to run this scam. What a JOKE!

48 posted on 02/11/2012 9:06:11 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: muawiyah

“So, DO IT. Tell us about it after you’ve done so.”

What an argumentative idiot you really are. You make a challenge that you know isn’t going to work but you want to claim his statements about Rossi couldn’t be true since the government didn’t do anything about such a report.

I don’t know what makes you such a gullible idiot when it comes to Rossi but it really works.


49 posted on 02/11/2012 9:13:36 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: exDemMom

If you really want to laugh at the ridiculous nature of Rossi’s claims just ask yourself how does a person allegedly produce a nuclear device without licensing, NRC approval, etc. in an apartment? I mean, if a person really did have anything nuclear whatsoever, the feds, NRC, EPA, State agencies, etc., would be on that person’s doorstep inside the hour. Rossi? Nothing. Not a peep.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 9:18:33 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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