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Rossi's NASA Test Fails to Launch (E-Cat)
New Energy Times ^ | 2/10/2012 | Steven B. Krivit

Posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:33 PM PST by Johnny B.

Andrea Rossi, an Italian man who claims to have invented a practical low-energy nuclear reaction device, will not have his device tested and evaluated by NASA. In the past year, Rossi has had mixed success in gaining support at two NASA laboratories: Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., and Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

(Excerpt) Read more at newenergytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; ecat; lenr; rossi
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Detailed story of Rossi's dealings with NASA last year.
1 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:43 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

LENR/Cold Fusion ping. Stephen Krivit has posted a detailed report on Rossi’s dealings with NASA. Enjoy.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 4:52:45 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
I read today that Rossi has a history.

In the 1990s, he served prison time after claiming that a company he started, called PetrolDragon, could convert toxic waste to oil, but instead the 70,000 tons of waste accumulated by the company was left to rot on-site. Ten years later, Rossi was acquitted by the Italian government. And he's back to making miracles.

E-Cat 'Cold Fusion' Machine: Claims of Fraud Heating Up
3 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Johnny B.

Someday “blarney” and “rossi” will be synonyms.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 4:56:27 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Now I know how the average lefty would feel if Fred Phelps were elected President.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Can’t really blame the guy. After all we live in a world where companies buy carbon credits and pass the cost on to the consumer.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I read today that Rossi has a history.
HERE is the list of newspaper stories I was able to find related to Rossi's numerous convictions, not just for the "toxic waste" problem (which has cost almost $50 million to clean up), but for several, unrelated fraud crimes.

As far as I was able to tell, he was acquitted of the toxic waste charges, but not the financial fraud charges, which included a 2000 conviction for bankruptcy fraud, with an 8-year prison sentence.

6 posted on 02/10/2012 5:06:56 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

I have a feeling that he’ll be collecting at least one more conviction before he’s done.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 5:11:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Johnny B.
Interesting section about the small quantity of steam:
Rossi said he was feeding in water and producing only steam. Only there wasn't much steam. So where did the water go? The obvious explanation was right in front of us the whole time: feed water into the copper chamber, run it through the black hose, down the table and into a hole in the wall.

Once the water enters the copper chamber, nobody sees it again; it disappears down the hole. If someone asks to see what's coming out of the hose, Rossi first dumps the water out of the last few feet, then pulls the hose out of the wall for a few seconds, then rushes to put it back in. Alternatively, Rossi provides a plastic blue bucket to catch the "steam."

The hard part for most people was to believe that anyone would be so audacious or so foolhardy as to attempt to pull off a stunt like this. But anybody who knows Rossi's history with his other two energy "innovations" knows that this behavior is entirely in his character.

July 30 represented a turning point. Many people concluded that Rossi was either a fraud or incompetent, or both. Other people continued to have confidence in Rossi, his device and his claim.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 5:16:03 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: cripplecreek

Crip, Rossi got a Green Card from President Jimmy Carter for that process.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 5:21:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Crip, Rossi got a Green Card from President Jimmy Carter for that process.
I've read that statement several times, but I've never seen any evidence for it. Do you actually know this? Or are you just repeating something you read on a Rossi fan site?

According to the Italian government, there was no evidence that any waste was ever converted into fuel. Part of the evidence brought against Rossi was that his "customer" was still "buying" converted fuel long after Petrol Dragon was shut down. The conclusion was that it was nothing more than a money-laundering operation.

10 posted on 02/10/2012 5:27:20 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
Other people continued to have confidence in Rossi, his device and his claim.

Those folks should just give him their life savings and wait for the profits to come rolling in.
11 posted on 02/10/2012 5:27:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Those folks should just give him their life savings and wait for the profits to come rolling in.
I'm sure some of them already have.
12 posted on 02/10/2012 5:29:17 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
J.B., other than some date changes, this is the same material you've been posting for the last year and a half.

Did you ever find any source for the claim this "water heater" was supposed to produce steam?

Still waiting on that one.

In the meantime Obama's Cylindra loan has blown up and there are about $6 billion in other "energy loans" ready to go south.

Rossi's old buddies at Leonardo with their DOE consulting contract ($90 mil) seem to be among the few to not go belly up in this stuff, so what's the deal?

I figured that by now you'd figured out just which bad energy loan Rossi and his backers were involved in ~

You wouldn't be trying to misdirect us would you?

13 posted on 02/10/2012 5:33:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.

It's amazing that it's on the internet since that was a good 20 years before an accessible internet.

14 posted on 02/10/2012 5:36:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.

It's amazing that it's on the internet since that was a good 20 years before an accessible internet.

15 posted on 02/10/2012 5:36:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Did you ever find any source for the claim this "water heater" was supposed to produce steam?
Rossi's gadget?!? It's only the claim that all the water has been turned into steam that makes this interesting. If that's not true, then all the energy being used can be explained by the electrical heater Rossi is supposedly using to "kick off" the process.

If a significant amount of water is staying water, then Rossi is lying about the whole thing. That's what makes the fact that he has always dumped the water/steam down the drain without any sort of measurement so suspicious.

You wouldn't be trying to misdirect us would you?
You're the master of paranoid, schizophrenic thinking around here, so you would think that regardless of what I said.

I noticed that you didn't answer the question about a source for the "information" you provided that Rossi received a visa from Jimmy Carter. That sounds like just the sort of lie Rossi would use.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 5:43:08 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: muawiyah
Go back to October. I gave you the specific references to the Jimmy Carter story.
Your comments veer so wildly that I refuse to waste my time trying to dig through them. If you have a reference, post it.
17 posted on 02/10/2012 5:45:40 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Its not real until it is....

Were still at the first part of that sentence.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 5:54:57 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: Johnny B.
You realize, I hope, that the full story on Rossi includes him walking out of prison and immediately immigrating to the US.

Hmmm.

He had a visa!

19 posted on 02/10/2012 6:04:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.

Hey! Rossi! ShIt, or get off the pot!


20 posted on 02/10/2012 6:17:28 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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